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[SlimySnake]

Black Myth Wukong and Crimson Desert were no anomalies. Two more games from these no-name Asian studios were revealed recently, and they look a gen ahead of pretty much every game released by Western and even Japanese studios so far this gen.





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Both games look absolutely spectacular.

The DokeV trailer shows a very lived in city with lots of NPCs going about their lives. It feels alive in a way cyberpunk, watch dogs, and even rdr2 did not.

It's just shocking that while AAA western and Japanese studios are stuck making cross gen games, these mobile devs are out there able to get visuals like this on their first ever AAA game.

 

[MonarchJT]

I had never seen DokeV it looks absolutely ashtoning .. I'm speechless

 

[Guilty_AI]

that horrible music choice tho

 

[Keihart]

First time seeing Honor of Kings, this game looks way better then that Notics May Cry and Totally not Bayonetta games that got shown not long ago.
DokeV looks amazing, i was floored when the trailer was shown, i wonder if this games are gonna live up to what they've shown, at least Dokevi's dev seems to have a lot of experience already.

Edit:

SlimySnake BTW OP, DokeV is not from a no name dev, the studio is Pearl Abyss the same ones from Black Dessert, you might also remember the trailer for Crimsom Dessert not long ago which is also supossed to be singler player like DokeV and looks like a spiritual sequel to Dragons Dogman to me.

 

[bender]

Black Myth Wukong and DokeV are two of my most wanted games.

 

[LordOcidax]

Are these games playables??? looks like UE fan made games.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Don't hold your breath Slimy. Even amateurs can make next-gen looking games when it's just for marketing purposes

 

[Radrigal]

Ewww

 

[SlimySnake]

Don't hold your breath Slimy. Even amateurs can make next-gen looking games when it's just for marketing purposes

At least they are trying. Id rather Ubisoft and CD Project go back to lying to me with games that would eventually be downgraded than not making anything at all.

 

[bender]

Don't hold your breath Slimy. Even amateurs can make next-gen looking games when it's just for marketing purposes

 

[Saint Boot]

Ewww

Agreed.

 

[MayauMiao]

Black Myth Wukong and Crimson Desert were no anomalies. Two more games from these no-name Asian studios were revealed recently, and they look a gen ahead of pretty much every game released by Western and even Japanese studios so far this gen.





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Both games look absolutely spectacular.

The DokeV trailer shows a very lived in city with lots of NPCs going about their lives. It feels alive in a way cyberpunk, watch dogs, and even rdr2 did not.

It's just shocking that while AAA western and Japanese studios are stuck making cross gen games, these mobile devs are out there able to get visuals like this on their first ever AAA game.

When the game is at the hands of gamers and actually runs like that then I'll be impressed.

Cyberpunk 2077 should be a lesson to never trust video footage alone.

 

[SlimySnake]

When the game is at the hands of gamers and actually runs like that then I'll be impressed.

Cyberpunk 2077 should be a lesson to never trust video footage alone.

Actually the PC version of Cyberpunk looks better than the E3 reveal. Where they fucked up was trying to release the game on last gen consoles. Should have never done that.

 

[Rea]

Cyber punk look better. On PC, it has the most realistic looking skin rendering. Even the NPC's skin look just as the same as main characters.

 

[Fare thee well]

If BDO is how Koreans get things done, count me out forever.

 

[UnNamed]

Very impressed by DokeV, but I want to see the receipt, release a demo soon.

 

[remember_spinal]

I mean, lets see if the games actually release and are enjoyable before we start shitting on devs putting out full fledged and awarded games consistently

 

[Perfo]

They look impressing because they're nothing more than a tech demo video roll for now. It's not different from any CGI trailer. Let's see how they're doing once they actually build a videogame with that, right?

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

SlimySnake BTW OP, DokeV is not from a no name dev, the studio is Pearl Abyss the same ones from Black Dessert, you might also remember the trailer for Crimsom Dessert not long ago which is also supossed to be singler player like DokeV and looks like a spiritual sequel to Dragons Dogman to me.

 

[Barakov]

Don't hold your breath Slimy. Even amateurs can make next-gen looking games when it's just for marketing purposes

I'm pretty sure some people said the same same thing when Playstation studios were trying to get off the ground.

 

[BadBurger]

I don't know if they appear "a gen ahead" than anything else out there - they look very nice in some ways, yes. But I caution you to wait for the final product. I think we've all been doing this annual dance long enough now to never trust trailers years ahead of a release.

 

[LimanimaPT]

Are these games playables??? looks like UE fan made games

No they don't. They look like next gen games.
People seem to be offended because this chinese/korean studios are showing better looking stuff then what we see in the west.
The only thing I have to say is that most of them are in the same genre. Third person slashers.

 

[carlosrox]

Dokev does look crazy but I need to know if that's just a vertical slice or not before I commit to any radical opinions on it.

 

[DAHGAMING]

DJ Khalid guna be playing nothing but China magic withing a couple of yrs.

 

[KingGhidorah]

DokeV looks like kiddie GTA

 

[Marty-McFly]

Actually the PC version of Cyberpunk looks better than the E3 reveal. Where they fucked up was trying to release the game on last gen consoles. Should have never done that.

The problem with cyberpunk not it'd downgraded graphics, but its horrendously downgraded NPC implementation which promised an intelligent world and NPC's who lived day to day lives.

 

[Soosa]

I wonder if they archieve this by having pure talent (easier to find 1000 super talented person from 1 billion people vs 5 million(small eu countries)), or by pure brute force aka easier to make huge and good looking games by paying 1/100th of what devs get paid on western studios and having so many people doing it that it goes fast?

Still kind of surreal how "never heard" studios make these games, but I guess they could be really famous studios in their area

Whatever it is, that dokev looks really interesting and "gamey like" aka they are just doing a game, not some real life simulator with real life limits and influence. Definetly going to get it if it is as good at it seems to be

 

[Dr.Morris79]

So, China IS good now?

It's a shame they'll only be able to play ten minutes of their own game before big daddy state tells them it's bedtime or some shite.

 

[GymWolf]

They looks great but they are vaporware for now.

 

[tommib]

None of them is out and we have no idea how they run. Poor clickbait.

 

[M1chl]

It's probably pre-rendered fake shit anyway.

 

[Marty-McFly]

I wonder if they archieve this by having pure talent (easier to find 1000 super talented person from 1 billion people vs 5 million(small eu countries)), or by pure brute force aka easier to make huge and good looking games by paying 1/100th of what devs get paid on western studios and having so many people doing it that it goes fast?

Still kind of surreal how "never heard" studios make these games, but I guess they could be really famous studios in their area

Whatever it is, that dokev looks really interesting and "gamey like" aka they are just doing a game, not some real life simulator with real life limits and influence. Definetly going to get it if it is as good at it seems to be

I'm not going to claim to know much about any of these games, but I don't get good vibes. Feelings of vaporware or broken dreams. What they've shown looks nice though.

 

[DeliciousDoc]

Dokev looks like a mash up of Nintendo games plus Yokai watch. Since the dev makes online games, we know how the game works before.

Chinese games looks like chinese monster hunter. I wonder how it's going to work since Chinese devs can only promote chinese history in games. Unless it's Taiwanese.

 

[cireza]

Let's wait for the games to be released.

 

[tommib]

So, China IS good now?

It's a shame they'll only be able to play ten minutes of their own game before big daddy state tells them it's bedtime or some shite.

Word. Everyone's constantly pointing fingers at China because of their anti-gamer culture and laws in this forum (and saying how good we have it in the west) but the moment we see some Chinese generic-looking high-polygon SUPER VGA "next-gen" games we go, yeah, that's how it's done West, hope China takes over! GTFO with this bullshit.

 

[Duchess]

It's probably pre-rendered fake shit anyway.

When I saw these a few days back, people were of the opinion that these are "in-engine" demos.

Edit: which basically means not to expect the actual game to match these visuals.

 

[Danjin44]

maybe, just maybe let those games come out on playable form before you go on shitting on other devs.

then again this really not about actual games but rather about graphics.

 

[ZywyPL]

They do look amazing, but let's wait for the games and see how they run before we get too excited.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Word. Everyone's constantly pointing fingers at China because of their anti-gamer culture and laws in this forum (and saying how good we have it in the west) but the moment we see some Chinese generic looking high-polygon SUPER VGA "next-gen" games we go, yeah, that's how it's done West, hope China takes over! GTFO with this bullshit.

Exactly.

....Better dead than red!

But with our governments latest army recruitment drive I think that might have to be the case, so with that in mind, I prefer Oak over Mahogany

 

[Wildebeest]

Honor of Kings is one of the biggest game franchises on earth. It doesn't have much presence outside of China, but it is not accurate to say that the name is coming from nowhere.

 

[UnNamed]

They look impressing because they're nothing more than a tech demo video roll for now. It's not different from any CGI trailer.

Not (entirely) true.

If you use UE4 or other modern engine, you already have phisics, motion, control, illumination and some AI in your demo. The only thing you have to do is a proper AI, new routines, the level and game design. And the graphics of course.

They probably faked the sense of immersion and made some animation like it is something you can actually do in the final game, but in the end there is still a code under this products.
The only thing left is figure out what hardware developers used to run this trailer.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Western devs have learned not to show their games before they are far along in development or they will get shit for "downgrading". Either way, I think it's cool that Asia is becoming a bigger player in game development.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

I had never seen DokeV it looks absolutely ashtoning .. I'm speechless

Something about DokeV's world makes it seem super...tangible.
I think its all the ray tracing in the trailer.

 

[Yoboman]

Im guessing being Korea that PC is huge and consoles not so much so they can really aim for a higher spec

Dumbass Western devs still making last gen games when history has shown last gen console software sales always fall off dramatically when a new gen starts

 

[Great Hair]

showing Western devs how it's done.

 

[hlm666]

For whats it's worth dokev isn't using ue5, it's their own engine and seems to be tailored to the games they are making.

https://www.ruetir.com/2021/10/21/dokev-uses-a-new-generation-game-engine-but-the-studio-is-working-on-the-accessibility-of-the-title/

 

[oldergamer]

These studios are all owned by Tencent no? What was the deal ms signed with them recently? Could they be bringing these games to console?

 

[Spaceman292]

These games actually have to come out before they can teach anyone how it's done

 

[oldergamer]

Actually dokev is owned by CCP

 

[Bragr]

and they look a gen ahead of pretty much every game released by Western and even Japanese studios so far this gen.

We gotta play them first, looking good means nothing if it plays subpar. I don't trust that they gonna play anything near on the level of Western or Japanese devs.