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U.S. Senate confirms FCC chairman to new five-year term

Stiler

Stiler

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I honestly don't get how they can't see it's a conflict of interest when they let LOBBYIST and ex-telecom people into the role of regulating the companies that they worked for in the past.

How on earth does that make sense?

It's like hiring Pablo Escobar to run the DEA.
 
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Bigboss242

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Beartruck said:
Im not entirely convinced the web will be as chopped up as people fear. Theyll throttle sites for mob style shakeups, but if they start doing shit like carving sites off into seperate plans Google and Amazon will bury them in lawsuits.
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Yea right they will join in and you know it.
 
TheLaughingStock

TheLaughingStock

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Shauni said:
Not a single Democrat voted for the guy as the article states. It is true that Obama originally appointed the guy, which people love to point at since it scratches that 'both sides' itch and all, and Obama deserves criticism for that, but this is on the GOP and Trump. Even if he hadn't been appointed by Obama, Trump and co. would have found someone equally as shitty
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If Obama didn't appoint this shill, then he would've found another to take his place. Alternatively, Pres. Obama would've extended the appointment just like he did poor Bush appointees. When people say both sides it's not a joke. It's a real thing that people aren't saying because they have a mere itch.
 
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balladofwindfishes

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Zubz said:
Fuck. How hard will it be to repair Net Neutrality when things are less shitty again? I know it's a "genie out of the bottle" deal, but we can't be totally boned, right?
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The next Democrat head of the FCC can just bring it right back, or a D/D/D set up between House, Senate and President could pass the law.

aspaceman55 said:
Businesses and corporations will build themselves around and within the new policy, effectively making it impossible to change in the future.

Comcast is gonna make so much money, and stockholders won't let them make less money without the market going ��. So Uncle Sam will have their hands tied and be unable to change the laws without shaking up the industry big time. Enter lobbyists and $$$ and no - nothing will go back to the way it was.
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Businesses are not going to go all in on NN because they're not stupid and they know it could easily be right back in 4-5 years.
 
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The Maverick

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balladofwindfishes said:
The next Democrat head of the FCC can just bring it right back, or a D/D/D set up between House, Senate and President could pass the law.



Businesses are not going to go all in on NN because they're not stupid and they know it could easily be right back in 4-5 years.
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I would not bet on businesses leaving money on the table. Especially over the course of a half decade. Republicans know better than anyone that all you have to do is make the status quo, and force Democrats into being Bad Santa (in this case towards telecoms and ISPs).
 
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balladofwindfishes

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The Maverick said:
I would not bet on businesses leaving money on the table. Especially over the course of a half decade. Republicans know better than anyone that all you have to do is make the status quo, and force Democrats into being Bad Santa (in this case towards telecoms and ISPs).
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Net Neutrality has been the status quo since the Internet started. It's the Republicans being "Bad Santa"
 
RPGCrazied

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Yuck. Why couldn't the worst timeline start after I'm dead? Really don't want to live this through my 40's and old age.
 
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Trey

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TheLaughingStock said:
If Obama didn't appoint this shill, then he would've found another to take his place. Alternatively, Pres. Obama would've extended the appointment just like he did poor Bush appointees. When people say both sides it's not a joke. It's a real thing that people aren't saying because they have a mere itch.
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Obama appointed Pai as a show of good faith in the interest of bipartisanship when the obstructionism of Congress reached a then unprecedented level. You can criticize Obama's optimism in being able to reverse a cancerous Congressional opposition - something Obama himself regrets. But to equate the two in this way - or most - is nothing more than navel gazing purity testing which ironically lands the observer in a less informed place than actually scrutinizing "both sides" on their actual merit.

Obama realized the growing issue of Net Neutrality too late, but persuaded his then democratic FCC chair to install the most strict enforcement of regulation of the internet to date. The very same title II protection that I'm sure you participated in trying to protect earlier this year - the same protection currently in the FCC's sights. Obama moved on other regulations aside which have already been overturned by either the Trump administration, or Congressional Republicans, specifically regulating the capability of ISPs to sell your browsing history by default.

Obama is not above reproach, but it's intellectually dishonest to claim a "both sides are just as bad" stance in this situation just because he appointed Pai in a then-Demorcrat FCC.
 
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Snake

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Shauni said:
Not a single Democrat voted for the guy as the article states. It is true that Obama originally appointed the guy, which people love to point at since it scratches that 'both sides' itch and all, and Obama deserves criticism for that, but this is on the GOP and Trump. Even if he hadn't been appointed by Obama, Trump and co. would have found someone equally as shitty
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No.

This apparently needs to be pointed out in every Ajit Pai thread, but the FCC has five commissioners. 2 are filled by members of one party and 3 by the other party, since it cannot have more than 3 from one political party. The 2 Democratic picks are by the Democrats, the 2 Republican ones are chosen by the Republicans, and the sitting President gets to break the tie as well as choose which one becomes the Chairman of the FCC. When Ajit Pai was chosen by Senate Republicans as their pick, it was not a feelgood bipartisan move to approve him, it was a basic norm of government.

Ajit Pai is a Republican appointee and his status as Chairman was a Republican decision. The blame for his actions go 100% to the Republican Party.
 
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FyreWulff

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SpaceCadetKeon said:
My understanding is that there has to be at least one person from the other party on the panel. Mitch McConnell was the one who suggested Ajit Pai for the one Republican on the panel, and Obama agreed to appoint him in a show of bipartisanship.
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FCC is always forced to be 2 from one party and 3 from the other, just the 3 is always whoever is the latest president.
 
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cameron

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A loss for everyone but telcos. And individuals of a certain cult base are too stupid/indoctrinated to realize it.

Pai pledged in a statement on Monday to continue to focus “on bridging the digital divide, promoting innovation, protecting consumers and public safety, and making the FCC more open and transparent.”
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MAGA!
 
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balladofwindfishes

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boiled goose said:
A real thanks Obama situation.

We are fucked.
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Snake said:
No.

This apparently needs to be pointed out in every Ajit Pai thread, but the FCC has five commissioners. 2 are filled by members of one party and 3 by the other party, since it cannot have more than 3 from one political party. The 2 Democratic picks are by the Democrats, the 2 Republican ones are chosen by the Republicans, and the sitting President gets to break the tie as well as choose which one becomes the Chairman of the FCC. When Ajit Pai was chosen by Senate Republicans as their pick, it was not a feelgood bipartisan move to approve him, it was a basic norm of government.

Ajit Pai is a Republican appointee and his status as Chairman was a Republican decision. The blame for his actions go 100% to the Republican Party.
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avaya

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Pai is one of the most transparently corrupt individuals out there. Like zero fucks given.

If Dems don't take back the WH there will be some real fuckery wrought upon the US consumer that will take decades to fix.
 
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Septimus Prime

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Agent_Carnage said:
For shame I want the names of those so called dems. They need to be primaryed they don't serve the people anymore if they vote for that asshole for FCC...
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Ars just dropped an article with their names and (bad) reasoning here: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...s-voted-to-give-ajit-pai-another-term-on-fcc/

They are:

Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.)
Joseph Manchin (D-W.V.)
Gary Peters (D-Mich.)
Jon Tester (D-Mont.)

Fuck all of these people. They need to be removed from office.
 
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