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UFC 200 main event announced - Jon Jones vs. Daniel Cormier
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Terrifying how some so called UFC "fans" can out carny the most carny of Wrasslin fans.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
1.5M vs 750K
How people reach conclusions like this, I don't know.
Obliterator
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This will clear 1 million rather easily.
So? Let Dana and Zuffa worry about that. They clearly don't care. They'll still make shitloads of money and Conor can draw whenever he does fight next.
Yeah he's a fantastic wrestler but it's not that he wouldn't wrestle Jones. He couldn't. He tried countless times to take him down and couldnt. I'm sure the fight will be different this time around as both have improved and Bones is coming into the fight even stronger than their first (Which DC said he was surprised by when they first fought. Coming from a guy who fought at HW). If the Jones that fought OSP shows up, I can see Cormier getting a win. I would much rather they trade wins (like Ali Frazier) than a complete steamroll by Jones tbh.
MrToughPants said:
I think the Conor/Diaz fight would have done 2M or more. This isn't a regular event. Even Brock did 1.6M @ 100 with the help of GSP and the 100 name.
This will probably do somewhere in the 1m-1.5m range with the new headliner. Either way, it should be a pretty good payday for everyone involved.
Obliterator
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Yeah there is no chance this does under 1 million. In fact I think 1.5 is achievable.
Jones vs DC 1 did 820,000 buys by itself. This card feature Tate as well who is a proven decent draw with 2 million fans on Facebook. Not to mention you have 3 title fights and the whole "UFC 200" milestone as well.
1 million will be rather easy to pull. So yep I'm right in the same range with you. 1 - 1.5 million.
crazygambit
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True, but so much less interesting to watch. Even getting dominated on the second round and choked out, McGregor put a more exciting performance than Jones in his last fight (which he ended up winning 50-45).
This card will never break a million PPV buys.
Edit: I'll elaborate a little bit. Everyone knows McGregor vs Diaz won't get to the cards. One of them is getting put down (and if McGregor doesn't make big improvements it'll be him, which is why he wants to train). And you know Jones vs Cormier will be a decision after a boring grind.
But what if it isn't?
That's why people will tune in and it makes it's what makes the fight so exciting.
dumbest shit ive ever read
Sometimes you bite off more than you can chew.
Ninja Scooter
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Diaz was training for a triathlon before getting the call for the Conor fight.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
I just don't see it.
Aldo draws sub-200k. Edgar is a blackhole and is usually free fights like Hendrix and the other has-beens or no-names that don't attract casuals. Can Jones vs Cormier draw over a mil when their last fight was garbage and did 800k? 187 had 375k buys which had LHW and MW title fights... This card needs Conor, GSP, or Ronda to clear over a mil "rather easily".
Alex Anderson
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Meh. I'll watch the free fights.
Cormier kinda pissed me off when he stopped trying to win in favor of going for that stupid takedown.
Cormier kinda pissed me off when he stopped trying to win in favor of going for that stupid takedown.
1 million + isn't guaranteed like it would've been with Conor vs. Nate, but it has a very good chance to hit 1 million. The prestige of "200" will give it a boost for sure, the drama surrounding Jones vs. Cormier, and the overall strength of the card should be enough to reach 1 million.
Whether it clears 1 mill or not, this isn't going to beat Conor/Diaz 1 and that should be embarrassing for Dana and UFC.
Im exaggerating on him getting high on his couch but Diaz himself right after the fight said in an interview he wasn't in good shape so how is it the "dumbest shit youve ever read"?
Interview is in youtube link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhERJsE7UXY
crazygambit
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What did 197 do like? I know the gate was significantly less than 196. Like 8+ million vs 2, which is a massive difference. It was the return of Jones after more than a year and it didn't seem to be a huge draw. McGregor's tweets probably didn't help either.
I maintain that Dana has lost his mind if McGregor doesn't show up at 200
We know he was at least lying about the weight though, when he said he could've made 155. Then they offered 160 which he still couldn't make and instead of going 165 Conor said fuck it let's do 170.
I think we can all agree there's no way McGregor would ask for higher weight class when he was already training for a 155 fight.
BigJonsson
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Exactly
Nate Confirmed that he was not training for a triathlon before the fight. It was PR hype BS by the UFC.
Conor got stomped by a dude that wasn't training for anything on two weeks notice. I can't believe people thought he could take Robbie Lawler. lmao
Aldo: "In my opinion I'm still the champ"
Well it's quite possible he doesn't actually remember anything since that knockout.
crazygambit
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I don't think anyone thought he could take on Lawler though, at least on the short term. Some (including Dana and Joe Rogan) had serious doubts he could take on Dos Anjos.
No one that can drop to 145 can seriously take on a 170 division. However as he gets older he will be forced to go up at least to 155. He won't be able to make that cut forever. If he packs on muscle for a few years maybe he could seriously compete at 170, though he probably won't be the top dog there. Right now though? Absolutely impossible. He walks around at 170 right now, he's giving up way too much size.
Ninja Scooter
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Brendan Schaub has had a lot of brain trauma in his life though
Dude, stop saying this stupid shit - Nate Diaz LIVES and BREATHES every day of his life
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