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Uh Oh (Michael Jackson)

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Tenguman

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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041212/D86TR8SG1.html

SANTA BARBARA, Calif. (AP) - Fingerprints belonging to both Michael Jackson and the boy accusing him of child molestation were found on pornographic magazines seized from Jackson's Neverland ranch last year, the Santa Barbara News-Press reported Saturday, citing sources it did not identify.

Now, still a far cry away from molestation...but not a step in the right direction for Jackson.
 

DaMan121

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So I guess this means we are all child molesters.. Infact, if this was adults having sex (most likely since tthey made no comment), doesnt this hurt their case?
 
DaMan121 said:
So I guess this means we are all child molesters.. Infact, if this was adults having sex (most likely since tthey made no comment), doesnt this hurt their case?


uhh, the fact that he owned porn isn't why he could be fucked, its a piece of (major) evidence that corroborates the kid's story. IF the kid told the cops exactly where Michael keeps his stash and both their fingerprints are on it, he could be fucked. Of course, Michael could just say it was his own personal porno collection, but then he'd have to convince a jury that he's into women...:lol
 
Fresh Prince said:
Where the fuck did it all go wrong?
It's all very sad for both MJ and the boys he molested....

It's not sad for Micheal Jackson. It's good they're coming closer to catching him.
 
It's sad when any person is found guilty of such a heinous act. Although I'm not a psychologist I do think some people do have mental problems and therefore are not fully aware or fully comprehend their actions. MJ may or may not be one of these people.

All IMO of course.
 

Blackie

Member
This fucking sucks. I know this has been said a billion time before, but why the fuck did Michael Jackson have to turn into such a crazy freak?

GODAMNIT I BOUGHT YOUR SHITTY GENESIS GAME AS A KID!
 
Just further proof of Michael's disconnect with the rest of the normal world. I mean, who doesn't wear oven mitts when masturbating to porn? Lemme guess, he also takes the wrapper off the burger before he eats it? Fucking weirdo..
 

Fifty

Member
Ned Flanders said:
Just further proof of Michael's disconnect with the rest of the normal world. I mean, who doesn't wear oven mitts when masturbating to porn? Lemme guess, he also takes the wrapper off the burger before he eats it? Fucking weirdo..


:lol
 

xabre

Banned
What does it prove? That Jackson was flicking through a porno, put it down somewhere and this kid just happened to find it later on and have a browse. Very weak...I hope this is not the best the prosecution can come up with.
 

Fifty

Member
I wonder what the magazine was...I can't imagine him flipping through Playboy.....unless I'm getting it confused with Playboy
 
xabre said:
What does it prove? That Jackson was flicking through a porno, put it down somewhere and this kid just happened to find it later on and have a browse. Very weak...I hope this is not the best the prosecution can come up with.


I hope you're just making a point that this is not necessarily a smoking gun, because if you're attemting to defend Michael Fucking Jackson you're likely as diseased a mind as he is.

Did you see any of his interview/documentary on 20/20? The guy's a certified loon, obsessed with youth and children. Hoping he's innocent should be enough warrant an investigation in your home. If you honestly think he's just kicking it with these tots, then send your kid over to Neverland and see how long it is before Jacko introduces him to Pecker Pan.

For Christs sake, you ring the doorbell to that perve palace and settlement hush money automatically falls out of the dog door. How sick..
 
Fucking sickening. He's done for. He deserved to be locked away when he chose to get those horrid chin implants, and when he decided to bleach himself, and when he made the decision to have a bird beak grafted on his face for a nose.

From "Don't stop til you get enough" to "I'm not stoppin til I get enough". Sickening.
 

Brannon

Member
I hope this is not the best the prosecution can come up with.

After this, do you think the prosecution even has to work anymore? Especially with THIS AMERICAN public as the jury? Be realistic now; it will take a miracle to get him off at this point. There's too much against him; the accusations of molesting (sexual predator!) of children (pedophile!), more specifically boys (evil gay pervert!) by using porn (self-satisfying degenerate!) and drugs and alcohol (oh my god the poor children!). Not even OJ could spend his way out of that.

Guilty or not, the ball's in MJ's court now, and he better put up a better game than what he has done at this point.
 

Illusion

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You need to register to read the forums but I really urge any who even slightly wants to see MJ found innocent to read the threads at this site. wwwmjjjforum.com

The amount of evidence in his favor is quite amazing. Yes it's a fan site and yes you would expect them to be in his favor but go there and read. Don't allow the tabloids to be your source (or even the mainstream press) or you will be misled.
 

Socreges

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Illusion said:
You need to register to read the forums but I really urge any who even slightly wants to see MJ found innocent to read the threads at this site. wwwmjjjforum.com

The amount of evidence in his favor is quite amazing. Yes it's a fan site and yes you would expect them to be in his favor but go there and read. Don't allow the tabloids to be your source (or even the mainstream press) or you will be misled.
Really? So you think he's innocent?

Not that I know either way, but if one can "be misled", then that means you DO.

"There was this safe that no one could open. They had a locksmith come -- all these different people trying to open up this safe. It took them the whole day to try to get it open," she revealed. "But the funny thing about it, was when they get it open, the only thing they found was the directions on how to open up the safe."
Haha, he may have sex with little boys, but at least he has a sense of humour.
 

Shinobi

Member
Ninja Scooter said:
Of course, Michael could just say it was his own personal porno collection, but then he'd have to convince a jury that he's into women...:lol

:lol






Ned Flanders said:
Just further proof of Michael's disconnect with the rest of the normal world. I mean, who doesn't wear oven mitts when masturbating to porn? Lemme guess, he also takes the wrapper off the burger before he eats it? Fucking weirdo..

:lol

Of course this makes you two as evil as the black culture-hatin' Eminem...goddamn racists.






xabre said:
What does it prove? That Jackson was flicking through a porno, put it down somewhere and this kid just happened to find it later on and have a browse. Very weak...I hope this is not the best the prosecution can come up with.

:lol In a sense you're right, it doesn't prove a goddamn thing on it's own. But as part of the overall, the evidence is pretty powerful. The likelihood of some kid accidently stumbling onto a stash of hidden porn in some 2500+ acre mansion is pretty far fetched.

Sadly, this will do nothing to stop me from buying a couple copies of the Ultimate Michael Jackson collection (four CD's + live DVD...one for my sis, one for me) that recently came out. Perhaps it should, but hell he hasn't been convicted yet, and I always thought he was mentally different anyway in terms of his view with children. When you get on TV and admit that you have no problem sleeping with children, it's clear you think of it as a normal thing. So the simple question now is does it stop at just sleeping with children, which is a bit warpped but isn't something I'd call evil? Or does it go to a whole other level that breaks all the rules?

Honestly, I hope that evidence is malarky...I'd rather see MJ as mentally stilted then one who gets it off with boys.
 

Leon

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Ned Flanders said:
I hope you're just making a point that this is not necessarily a smoking gun, because if you're attemting to defend Michael Fucking Jackson you're likely as diseased a mind as he is.


I've been defending Michael Fucking Jackson since he got arrested. I remember saying nothing's gonna happen, he probably didn't do it, he's not going to jail, it's all for show, and money, again, and voila. Now it's over a year later. Nothing's happening. When he got arrested, I remember some posters adamantly lashing out on him, shitting all over him senseless. Now it's the same. Only it's gotten to the point where the people shitting all over him blindly are starting to spread the shit to the ones defending him. Relax. I don't know what it is about the guy, but some of you want him locked up more than the kid accusing him of molestation. Evidently.
 
Leon said:
I've been defending Michael Fucking Jackson since he got arrested. I remember saying nothing's gonna happen, he probably didn't do it, he's not going to jail, it's all for show, and money, again, and voila. Now it's over a year later. Nothing's happening. When he got arrested, I remember some posters adamantly lashing out on him, shitting all over him senseless. Now it's the same. Only it's gotten to the point where the people shitting all over him blindly are starting to spread the shit to the ones defending him. Relax. I don't know what it is about the guy, but some of you want him locked up more than the kid accusing him of molestation. Evidently.

I'm not lashing out at him, I'm just assessing the situation. Look at his track record. He hangs out/"naps" with underaged kids, in seclusion, in a private room with camera-monitored entryways. He's already settled the first suit complete with a non-disclosure agreement and a huge sum of hush money.

Even assuming the initial allegations were all false and he merely settled the suit to avoid being dragged through the mud, I can't have an ounce of sympathy for him when he STILL procedes to fraternize with pre-pubescent boys, especially given the fact that he has to know that he would be a target for gold-diggers. Why would you continue to do things of that nature given what you've already been through? What rational person would risk putting themselves through that all over again, if they were innocent? It certainly reeks of someone who refuses to dispense with their abnormal tendencies and lends credence to suspicions of guilt. If I was wrongly accused of a crime, particularly something as heinous as Jacko was accused of, I would take every precaution possible to avoid the scenario repeating itself.

And none of that takes into consideration his extremely oddball tendencies and the sheltered alternative universe in which he resides. Those things might only make him guilty in the court of public opinion, but the fact is that eccentricity is often characteristic of sex offenders, serial killers etc.

It's true, I don't know all the facts in this case, but when you use a little hindsight and add a dash of common sense, it's not difficult to come to the conclusion that the prospect of Jacko being innocent is slim. I don't think the timetable necessarily has to do with the merit of the case, but rather likely has to do with making sure that the allegations can be corroborated with evidence that is beyond reproach (thus the extended search the other day). I would assume that in a case as high profile as this one, the prosecution would like to make as thorough a case as possible so as to avoid another OJ scenario where they get their ass handed to them.
 

Ecrofirt

Member
wait a damn minute now. I'm no fan of MJ one way or the other, but a news blurb that says fingerprints were found on a porno doesn't prove shit.

There's also this quote in there:
According to the newspaper, the boy and his brother often visited Neverland when Jackson wasn't home.

Is it unreasonable to say he could have looked at the madazine when Michael wasn't around? How many of you have been to someone's house and flipped through a magazine of theirs? It's a rather common thing. The only difference here is that the magazine is a porno, which MJ could have accidently left out, or the boy could have found his porn stash somewhere.

It's not that unreasonable to think any of those things, and unless there's more to the story than that, they'll have a hard time proving that MJ was looknig at it with the boy.
 

Vieo

Member
wonder what the magazine was...I can't imagine him flipping through Playboy.....unless I'm getting it confused with Playboy

When I was watching CNN yesterday, when they were having a discussion about it, one of the people on the panel blurted out that the magazine was an off-shoot of Hustler called "Barely Legal" where women dressup to look young or something like that.
 
If this turns out to be greedy parents ruining the guy's life - I feel sorry for him even though he's a rich pop star or whatever...

but if it's true, it really does suck. He's always been a great singer, and put out some of the best records ever. Sadly talent is not inversely proportional to sexual conformity. Pedophilia, and various forms of child abuse - are relatively new moral panics in human history. Wasn't Lewis Carrol a pedophilic opium addict? So it's not like this is a first in human history. But that someone so famous go against the social norms, even though it is so dangerous for their lives and career... even though people want to lynch said people... he can't possibly be right in the head if this is true. People don't just become naive twisted deviants over night. It's sad for all concerned - I gotta wonder what on earth has happened here, if this is true at all I mean.

If he is guilty of anything his dad needs locking up too. Some members of the media too. Fame really fucks some people up..... not that I wouldn't welcome such riches myself.
 

DJ Sl4m

Member
The guy's obviously screwed up in the brain, and the screwy homebrew mixture of his injected hormones aren't helping anything.

He's a freak, and isn't right, he's probably the last guy who needs to spend time with impresionable kids.

Even if this doesn't prove anything in his current case of molestation (and even if he's innocent of the actual sex act) at least parents wont be so trusting to have their kids around this freak in the future.

And thank god after this is all over with his singing career probably is too, so hopefully we'll here less about this freak very soon.
 

Xenon

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I think the best thing I heard about the whole MJ case came from a comedian. "How come you never hear of any little girls in Neverland?"
 

Shiggy

Member
He is the King of Pop :lol (I don't know whether you'll understand the joke, but "pop" is in german also a word for "f*ck" :) )

kevin.jpg


I think his music is good, but if this all is fact, he is a psycho man :/
 

Ecrofirt

Member
Shiggy said:
He is the King of Pop :lol (I don't know whether you'll understand the joke, but "pop" is in german also a word for "f*ck" :) )

I think his music is good, but if this all is fact, he is a psycho man :/

I guess he's also the king of traffic?
 
I would love to know how they got fingerprints off a magazine with this kids weeks and weeks after he touched it. Fingerprints aren't eternal.
 

Brannon

Member
Actually they last a pretty long time. A German Nazi officer was prosecuted for his war crimes recently only because his fingerprints were on a letter he wrote decades ago. Forensics will fuck you hardcore.
 

Shinobi

Member
DJ Sl4m said:
Even if this doesn't prove anything in his current case of molestation (and even if he's innocent of the actual sex act) at least parents wont be so trusting to have their kids around this freak in the future.

Those are the people I'd send to jail, even before Jacko. You know he's not a normal guy, so why send your fucking kid to his ranch for weeks at a time? Just ridiculous.




Shiggy said:

:lol :lol :lol
 

Sinnick

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Illusion said:
You need to register to read the forums but I really urge any who even slightly wants to see MJ found innocent to read the threads at this site. wwwmjjjforum.com

The amount of evidence in his favor is quite amazing. Yes it's a fan site and yes you would expect them to be in his favor but go there and read. Don't allow the tabloids to be your source (or even the mainstream press) or you will be misled.

I completely agree. I've been lurking there since the allegations began. The way the mainstream media have been misrepresenting the situation is unbelieveable, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The U.S. media is a joke nowadays.
 

Do The Mario

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Free MJ!!!!!

Innocent until proven guilty!

I can’t wait till he gets off, then I can bump this thread and we can frame all the people knocking MJ with molestation claims!
 
Ned Flanders said:
What rational person would risk putting themselves through that all over again, if they were innocent?
Well, you make a convincing argument that he's not both rational and innocent. However, we've known he's irrational for a loooong time.

And none of that takes into consideration his extremely oddball tendencies and the sheltered alternative universe in which he resides. Those things might only make him guilty in the court of public opinion, but the fact is that eccentricity is often characteristic of sex offenders, serial killers etc.
It is for this reason that I hope the case against MJ is bunk, though I know no more than anyone here, and none of us know more than a fraction of the facts. I'd hate to see the "eccentric -> criminal" belief perpetuated.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
OMG he's got porn magazines at his house and some kid found them.

GUILTY!

If having porno mags at your house makes you guilty.... I'd better go start hiding my adult shit.....
 
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