Bernd Lauert
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People want to play FUT early. The earlier you play, the easier it is to get the good cards fairly cheaply.
UK Boxed sales | Metroid fastest selling Metroid in UK ever at #3, Alan Wake at #5 | Digital sales continue to shrink physical market
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We don't know that at all.
On the contrary we know that in UK Playstation is leading in digital sales.
A post made by someone on a message board in January 2019 without any numbers to back it up is not a source.
Playstation is reporting 70:30 digital/physical software sales. Microsoft hides stuff.
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Hezekiah
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Yeah the digital split mostly reflects the physical split.I'm sure it was the same with Resident Evil and Hitman etc.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
That's expected of a console which outsold its competitor 2:1. The question was always about the digital ratio compared to the physical ratio.
MOTM
Banned
Okay so if MS is hiding stuff then how do you know they're losing market share in software sales? How do you know Sony has a higher digital sales VS physical ratio?
You have no MS numbers so what are you comparing?
Hezekiah
Banned
Yeah I think until Microsoft releases something more definitive, a nearly three year old article is meaningless.
For example if FIFA is mostly digital sales, and the vast majority of sales are on Playstation, then how can it be that Xbox has proportionally significantly higher digital sales - that doesn't make sense.
Ultimately this is likely the GamePass effect. People are playing other games for 'free' and buying less games on Xbox here. Of course Ubisoft have their own counter in the form of Ubisoft+, and sales on other platforms still seem to be strong.
Saber
Newd Member
Didn't something like that happened with Crash Team Racing Nitro? Difference was that CTR was indeed an exclusive, so this one was more of a first to anybody else other than PS users.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Just because physical sales mean less for Xbox we can't discard to analyse those, since as you said, they still mean a lot for other platforms like Playstation and even more with Switch.
Also, that data you have is from 2019, before the PS5 released. Do we know if the new consoles releasing affected that data?
We know digital sales for Sony platforms have increased a lot when comparing with physical sales in the past few years. Have they increased in a similar way on Xbox?
Do we know if digital sales on Xbox are doing like they were in 2019 when Gamepass didn't have nearly as much people subscribing?
There's a lot of "ifs" to this that need to be updated and analysed.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Metroid is amazing, it deserves all the success.
So having to pay out even more money, glad I never buy the game anymore. Just a fucking ripoff but keep buying..
skit_data
Member
CTR wasn't an exclusive though? It released on all platforms
Because all the cards are on the table.
Playstation has a 70:30 digital/physical marketshare, Playstation is leading in overall digital sales, Xbox is losing up to 20% of their physical marketshare.
How Microsoft is supposed to make up for this ground with a higher digital/physical ratio?
70:30 is already a crazy high figure. If Microsoft had a 90:10 digital ratio with overall digital sales still behind Playstation you simply wouldn't see Xbox games doing anywhere 30% of the totals in physical sales as well.
Unfortunately Microsoft hides a lot of things precisely so that conclusive statements and negative narratives can't be formed around them but least in the UK there's a strong evidence that that they're simply losing overall software marketshare.
Sander Cohen
Member
People just can't be bothered to get off their ass, go to a store and buy a game I guess (or order physical online). Oh well, just so everyone knows, I'm staying on this sinking physical 
to the bitter end, all the way to the bottom of the 
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to the bitter end, all the way to the bottom of the .
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Bernd Lauert
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That's debatable. Physical sales are 4% of total Playstation revenue.
Mr Moose
Member
Is this just PS5 or PS4 (v Xbox One) as well? (UK).
This makes me sad. Fuck the all digital future
kingfey
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I play fifa 22 alot on xbox one s. From fut alone, we have 1.5m transfer cards at peak, during my login.
keep in mind those cards have 1 hour limit, so you will need to refresh it every 1 hour. This is 150k average players playing on old gen at the same time, who are using the transfer market.
this doesn't include those people who are just playing and not using transfer market, those who are playing SP mode.
You also have to keep in mind the 2:1 ratio, which most people ignore. 30% on xbox is around half of 70% PlayStation (ps5+ps4). in other words, xbox is selling the same as playstation. But the data would favor playstation, because of 2:1 ratio.
Its why its pointless to compare sales.
If both consoles had the same sales ratio, this would have been bad for xbox. because it would mean, they are selling less. Its all because of x1, that xbox doesnt have the same number hardware's as ps4+ps5.
Hope this helps.
Sander Cohen
Member
Yeah but MTXs from the likes of Fortnite, Warzone, FIFA etc are vast majority of their, and everyone else's profits these days. If you buy FIFA for 60/70$, average Joe will spend 10 times as much on MTXs thus making share of actual game buying minuscule.This makes me sad. Fuck the all digital future
kingfey
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I like digital, due to not taking the cd out, and putting it back. There is also space problems, Patches, and all other issues.
While digital isnt perfect, I can buy full package of the game for cheap, compared to physical. Its also easy to manage your games.
The benefits outweighs the cons.
How many ps1 physical games can you find now? There alot of digital ps1 games, but not physical games. same for OG xbox. There are OG xbox games, which I would like to play.
Saber
Newd Member
Crash Team Racing was exclusive to PS1. Crash Team Racing Nitro fueled not.
skit_data
Member
Ah, ofc, thought you meant the latter
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
No why in the world will this happen! Not in 2026. Had Covid never happened.........
xHunter
Member
The transfer market is cross gen, so you are looking at Xbox one + series s + series x vs about 7.8 million transfers on playstation.
Edit: right now its 6.9 million.
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I mean you could just use ubisofts finacial report instead of pretending these retail sales mean sony is 70% of their business (spoiler they arn't)
www.globenewswire.com
UBISOFT REPORTS FIRST-QUARTER 2021-22 SALES
UBISOFT REPORTS FIRST-QUARTER 2021-22 SALES Q1 performance in line with expectationsBack-catalog up double-digit vs. Q1 2019-20 Download the...
| Q1 2021-22 | Q1 2020-21 | ||
| PLAYSTATION®4 & PLAYSTATION®5* | 30% | 34% | |
| XBOX One™ & XBOX Series X/S™* | 19% | 19% | |
| PC | 24% | 21% | |
| NINTENDO SWITCH™ | 8% | 11% | |
| MOBILE | 13% | 12% | |
| Others** | 6% | 3% |
kingfey
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I guess we are different time zone. Mine UK players are sleeping. Around 10pm in eastern time usa, its about 1.5m to 1.2m. What does xbox UK timezone shows?
The ps4 fifa 22 is nice too. Since the fut market is lively there.
I could make alot of coins, just by playing on playstation.
Harry kane on xbox is around 37k to 60k coins.
kingfey
Banned
the playstation should be higher than xbox on 2:1. at 2:1 conversion, it shows the playstation around 15%. it should be 38%.I mean you could just use ubisofts finacial report instead of pretending these retail sales mean sony is 70% of their business (spoiler they arn't)
UBISOFT REPORTS FIRST-QUARTER 2021-22 SALES
UBISOFT REPORTS FIRST-QUARTER 2021-22 SALES Q1 performance in line with expectationsBack-catalog up double-digit vs. Q1 2019-20 Download the...
Q1 2021-22 Q1 2020-21 PLAYSTATION®4 & PLAYSTATION®5* 30% 34% XBOX One™ &
XBOX Series X/S™*19% 19% PC 24% 21% NINTENDO SWITCH™ 8% 11% MOBILE 13% 12% Others**
6% 3%
prinz_valium
Member
Depends what you talk about.
What games, what platforms. Unit sales or revenue.
That split varies a lot.
Just the top 20 in the UK:
Bernd Lauert
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That's a 61:39 ratio for Q1 21-22. Far away from total domination, especially considering the console sales numbers. Xbox is actually punching above its weight here.I mean you could just use ubisofts finacial report instead of pretending these retail sales mean sony is 70% of their business (spoiler they arn't)
UBISOFT REPORTS FIRST-QUARTER 2021-22 SALES
UBISOFT REPORTS FIRST-QUARTER 2021-22 SALES Q1 performance in line with expectationsBack-catalog up double-digit vs. Q1 2019-20 Download the...
Q1 2021-22 Q1 2020-21 PLAYSTATION®4 & PLAYSTATION®5* 30% 34% XBOX One™ &
XBOX Series X/S™*19% 19% PC 24% 21% NINTENDO SWITCH™ 8% 11% MOBILE 13% 12% Others**
6% 3%
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Not true. Share your data.
xiskza
Member
Pretty sure the disc version of PS5 is vastly outselling the discless version though. People want a choice.
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xiskza
Member
All digital future, and that includes cashless society, is just another way for corporations and government to control every aspect of your life. Gaming is just another avenue. It seems easier and more practical, but it comes at a great cost.This makes me sad. Fuck the all digital future
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ReBurn
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What is the ratio of disc to digital being manufactured? People are buying every PS5 made. Preference for physical is not driving sales yet.
xiskza
Member
It's impossible to know, but right now the disc PS5 is outselling. Even if people using the disc version are using it to download more games, it can also mean they want that version cause even if out of 5 games they download 4, they still have their favorite games they want on physical.
MOTM
Banned
All the cards are on the table expect for the numbers
MasterCornholio
Member
PlayStation domination. Here comes "Ma digital sales"
What if I told you?
You got banned for console warring
MasterCornholio
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AlexxKidd
Member
You know fuck all for sure. There's some actual numbers in this thread, care to share yours?
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Sakamoto redemption arc completed
would you look at that , new title have more sales on physical, older titles have more as they soak up those cheap digital salesDepends what you talk about.
What games, what platforms. Unit sales or revenue.
That split varies a lot.
Just the top 20 in the UK:
Hezekiah
Banned
Sony are producing more disc-based PS5s though.
If ~80% of games are sold digitally in 2021 in the biggest market, then it stands to reason that we will have all-digital consoles five years from now.
Sleepwalker
Member
FIFA offers the full game 3 days before release if you buy it digitally. For the FUT whales that's a lot of times/advantage in regards to that gamemode. Not surprised to see this
Bernd Lauert
Banned
EA knows how to make money. Publishers always prefer digital to physical sales, so EA gives people incentives to buy digital.
TheGodfather07
Member
Does anyone in UK even own a series x because stock is non existent over here. I'm not joking. Microsoft don't send any stock to the UK.
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Neff
Member
I still can't get a Series X for the life of me. Managed to land 2 PS5s. For some reason Sony decided to flood Europe with supply.
Argos seems to be the best bet since they get stock from time to time, but it's rarely near me.
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Heisenberg007
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He won't. That's trolling 101.
ZoukGalaxy
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What is this Christmas magic...
Unfortunately the star at the top of the tree is a trap.