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[Punished Miku]

The sales data is meaningless because of several factors.


1: Game just came out.

2: This dosen't take into consideration digital sales.

3: This is the UK only.

Sounds like you should contact a mod then. Get all UK Sales threads banned since it's incomplete and totally unreliable.

 

[Kacho]

Nice triple post meltdown Sebastian1295

Rebirth is irrelevant cause square considers everything a failure nowadays. They've damaged the FF brand by releasing two stinkers in ff15 anf ff16 and by going all in on shit action combat.

I'm talking about people handwaving the low physical sales for Ribirth, claiming digital would make up the difference and it didn't.

 

[DryvBy]

I don't care that much. Even if it sells less, sucks for them, but I got my copy and I don't need a lot of others playing it.

It's a niche title that I'm shocked even got a sequel lol

 

[Sebastian1295]

Sounds like you should contact a mod then. Get all UK Sales threads banned since it's incomplete and totally unreliable.

Sorry i don't get triggered like you nor do i need to contact mods. I'm giving my opinion, which obviously dosen't align with yours 'wonder why that is hmm'.

 

[tomato shrub]

The sales data is meaningless because of several factors.


1: Game just came out.

2: This dosen't take into consideration digital sales.

3: This is the UK only.

same cope i've been reading on forums for the past 20 years. There's almost zero buzz for this game online, it is what it is.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

The sales data is meaningless because of several factors.


1: Game just came out.

2: This dosen't take into consideration digital sales.

3: This is the UK only.

$10 extra early access was digital-only and that's an elephant in the room that is impossible to ignore, if you're not Dring ofc.

 

[Topher]

We went through the same thing with Rebirth. I'm not saying this is objectively a flop but I also wouldn't assume it's doing great digitally. There are a lot of reasons why this game could have underperformed.

Either way it will take a few weeks to see how it's actually doing.

Tend to agree. First game ended up selling 5 million units as of 2021. This is one that should have been on PC day one, imo.

 

[Punished Miku]

Sorry i don't get triggered like you nor do i need to contact mods. I'm giving my opinion, which obviously dosen't align with yours 'wonder why that is hmm'.

Mods are generally open to this kind of argument. If you think the whole source is literally inherently worthless, then let them know. People post these UK sales threads constantly on here and I would hate to have to see you make this same passionate argument in every one of these threads, over and over.

 

[Topher]

The sales data is meaningless because of several factors.


1: Game just came out.

2: This dosen't take into consideration digital sales.

3: This is the UK only.

UK box sales has been a reoccurring thread topic for years. It isn't meaningless. It just doesn't tell the whole story.

 

[Plies]

The death of meaningful comments is here.

Oh, I very much meant what I said.

 

[LordOcidax]

FF rebirth sold well but square enix expect every FF game to sell 15 million copies and it's not going to happen. They've screwed the brand over by going all in on the action combat.

FF didn't sold well by any metric…

 

[LordOcidax]

This thread is basically a carbon copy of this…

Sales-Age  Thread 'Sales: In terms of UK boxed sales, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth's opening week is down nearly 30% over the launch of the previous game'

Mar 4, 2024

In terms of UK boxed sales, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth's opening week is down nearly 30% over the launch of the previous game. The first game came out during the peak of COVID lockdowns (gfk figures). Digital data arrives later in the week.

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[The Devil's Grocers]

Death Stranding is a cool art project and I'm glad it exists, but expecting an art project to sell copies on PS5? Never going to happen. Add it to the pile of PS5 flops

 

[calico]

If we assume DS2 will have a similar proportion of its sales be in the UK as was the case for DS1 (seems a reasonable assumption imo) then there is no problem using UK data as a sample. We probably can't assume Astro Bot has a similar proportion of its sales in the UK though.

The real problem here is the shift from retail to digital sales since DS1 released. If we knew what that shift is in general for PlayStation over that period we may be able to roughly infer whether that accounts for the whole drop or only some of it.

 

[LordOcidax]

Death Stranding is a cool art project and I'm glad it exists, but expecting an art project to sell copies on PS5? Never going to happen. Add it to the pile of PS5 flops

I still think is going to be successful, but looks like US is in charge of that…

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Releasing the game around the start of the Steam Summer Sales is a bad idea.

Perhaps overheating PS5 is part of the reasons too

Enjoy your ban, braindead trolling

 

[GHG]

Releasing the game around the start of the Steam Summer Sales is a bad idea.

Perhaps overheating PS5 is part of the reasons too

Imagine being DarkMage619 's puppet.

 

[K' Dash]

I always laugh at these threads with UK sales data, its a fucking island with 3 people on it and you only count physical... come the fuck on.

 

[LordOcidax]

I always laugh at these threads with UK sales data, its a fucking island with 3 people on it and you only count physical... come the fuck on.

Why are you posting here then?

 

[EN250]

Why this terrible take? I mean, DS has more mechanics and gameplay than any game you are playing right now.

Just say you dont like the game loop and that's fine but "lack of gameplay" only shows that you are trolling or have zero knowledge about the game.

Ok, I didn't like walking around, carrying and delivering shit like if I was an Amazon/Fedex carrier

 

[Vlodril]

Every single big game we get this shit with the uk physical sales. Most times we get the actual good numbers later when they add digital sales. And then the cycle starts again.

 

[nial]

Also 33% lower than Astrobot, this is looking worse than the FF Rebirth situation.

And yet even with that, Astro Bot actually managed to outsell Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart INCLUDING digital.
And the most relevant factor for DS2 is the fact that, unlike Astro Bot, it had a digital early access period.

 

[drganon]

Enjoy your ban, braindead trolling

Unfortunate it's not permanent. He'll be back to the same tired schtick when he comes back.

Edit : ReTurd not taking Arts ban well.

 

[Trogdor1123]

I wasn't aware it was even out. These games are so weird. What do you actually do in them?

 

[clarky]

I always laugh at these threads with UK sales data, its a fucking island with 3 people on it and you only count physical... come the fuck on.

Not as much as we laugh at you.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

The 1st game was a giant, giant event in comparison to the 2nd. It was the 1st Kojima game after he left Konami. It was the 1st Norman Reedus game after all the Silent Hill teases. People still didn't even know what it was, but just knew about the 3+ insane and extremely cryptic trailers hyping it up. It was out at the height of PS4 popularity as well. I just don't think it's that shocking. As I said, the game was actually pretty controversial after it was released. Pre-release, the perception could not have been more different.

People seem to be forgetting how hyped DS1 was. It was on the same level as Cyberpunk and FF7R. The unclear nature and Kojima's pedigree definitely contributed to its success, as it's a very polarizing game and much different than basically everyone was expecting (imo, in a good way). Here I expect we'll see the continued effects of "last game's reputation" on the new release., and DS2 may be a much better game, but I doubt it ends up as successful as the original.

 

[Nocty]

I digress, there are actually less places in the uk to even buy physical games now. Most supermarkets stopped selling them, GAME stores closed left and right, only a few places like Argos for example and Smyths toys still stocks them..

 

[mckmas8808]

Tend to agree. First game ended up selling 5 million units as of 2021. This is one that should have been on PC day one, imo.

Absolutely not! LOL It should be on PC after one year with a Super Pack edition. KoJi Pro will be fine. They don't need the money immediately to stay afloat.

 

[Mr Moose]

I always laugh at these threads with UK sales data, its a fucking island with 3 people on it and you only count physical... come the fuck on.

Sales data is sales data. And I am one of those three.

 

[Topher]

Absolutely not! LOL It should be on PC after one year with a Super Pack edition. KoJi Pro will be fine. They don't need the money immediately to stay afloat.

Why? The first game is everywhere, including Xbox. If the goal is to sell as many copies as possible then day one on PC makes the most sense to me.

 

[TGO]

People were expecting this game to break records or something?… Also, lower than Astrobot… Ouch.

Little information that is missing from the OP is what game it knocked off #1

 

[Neolombax]

I'm still trying to finish DS1, before i get DS2. It feels like a slog, but I still want to experience it.

 

[Horseganador]

Without knowing digital sales, it makes no sense to draw conclusions.

 

[Kilau]

In honor of this thread I'm gonna buy DS2 today.

Digitally.
In the US.

 

[powder]

If there ends up truly being a lack of interest in the sequel compared to the first game I would guess that new Kojima franchise hype accounted for a large portion of DS1 sales. If DS2 doesn't do as well it's probably because people realized they don't want an Amazon delivery sim.

 

[YCoCg]

These threads are always a blast

PHYSICAL SALES DOWN 66.6% FROM LAST GAME
...still Number 1 best selling game of the week

 

[Kvally]

 

[Skifi28]

In honor of this thread I'm gonna buy DS2 today.

Digitally.
In the US.

People like you are the reason we can't have nice things.

 

[mckmas8808]

Why? The first game is everywhere, including Xbox. If the goal is to sell as many copies as possible then day one on PC makes the most sense to me.

Is that the only goal for DS2 though?

 

[Kilau]

People like you are the reason we can't have nice things.

 

[Topher]

Is that the only goal for DS2 though?

No idea

 

[FoxMcChief]

Is that the only goal for DS2 though?

So their goal is to make less money?

 

[Sephiran]

Rebirth declined heavily from Remake even with stellar reviews, no chance DS2 escapes the same trajectory.

 

[mckmas8808]

So their goal is to make less money?

Why is any game ever released as an exclusive then? Clearly you guys understand that there's more at play with certain games than to sell the most possible. As quickly as possible. Lets not play dumb here.

 

[rofif]

Exactly as i expected. You do not hear many people talk about this game, when compared to DS1 on launch. The gameplay forumula of this game isn't exciting at all, so if you've played the first, you've pretty much seen most of DS2.

I just hope this is the last game of the series. Kojima needs to stop wasting time on games like these, and make something proper. Horror game in space similar to Dead Space but with a complex and fuckedup story. Come on, i need this.

What?
I am finishing it and there is a ton of activity online in the game. Way more structures and activity I am seeing.
Of course it's purely anecdotal

 

[rofif]

Why is any game ever released as an exclusive then? Clearly you guys understand that there's more at play with certain games than to sell the most possible. As quickly as possible. Let's not play dumb here.

From the creators point of view, they probably like to have more Sony money, funding and focus on 1 platform.
Kojima just Cares for the game.

 

[ProtoByte]

FF rebirth sold well but square enix expect every FF game to sell 15 million copies and it's not going to happen. They've screwed the brand over by going all in on the action combat.

FF7's problem is that it's not a new game. Not that it's got action combat.

Rebirth is irrelevant cause square considers everything a failure nowadays. They've damaged the FF brand by releasing two stinkers in ff15 anf ff16 and by going all in on shit action combat.

FF15 is the highest selling FF since X and so far the fastest selling of the series. I don't think it did any damage. I don't even think XVI did damage, it was just lame.

 

[Neff]

To be expected, but I was still surprised by the relative lack of launch fanfare for a new Sony/Kojima joint.

FF7's problem is that it's not a new game.

Rebirth I think illustrates more than any other game just how much priority some people place on story. In terms of pure gameplay, variety and content, Rebirth is a monster package and one of the best games I've ever played, but to many folks it's just 'the middle' of a story they already know.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Why is any game ever released as an exclusive then? Clearly you guys understand that there's more at play with certain games than to sell the most possible. As quickly as possible. Lets not play dumb here.

Usually because they're financially compensated. Maybe Sony's original contract included possible sequel, and Kojima needed the money for the first DS.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

What?
I am finishing it and there is a ton of activity online in the game. Way more structures and activity I am seeing.
Of course it's purely anecdotal

For you to see no activity in the game, it has to sell extremely poorly. Of course it didn't sell 50k copies. What i am saying is that DS2 will be very far from DS1 sales. Just like BL4 sales will be far bhind BL3 sales.