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UK - DS vs PSP this week

Ahahaha, the comments on that page are great.
"The game itself is okay but the graphics suck. I've seen better graphics on gameboy games. People are tiny and even when your closeup you cant see there faces. Rent this game and think hard before buying it.
 
Gaybrush Threepio said:
Nintendo DS - 24,492
PSP - 18,723
GBA SP - 8,799

HAVE SOME OF THAT!!!

It's all about the dogs............. :D

So the PSP has been outsold by the DS in the UK, Japan, and America in the past week? :lol
 
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the saviour of Nintendo


Anyway I am surprised. However something I find notable and more than one casual has said to me, that currently they aren't really bothered about the psp because they can just get the "better" versions of the games on their ps2.

GTA:LCS could well change this.

The uk is still sony land though
 
Europe rules They are so fucking different. I couldn't beleive it when I found out the Sega Master System was a success there. Insane.

What im trying to say is the PSP is something i feel really applies to Euro taste and I just cant picture you people carrying around the DS. As much as I think the DS is a great system, its just not for you. I cant imagine the DS being successful in the europe. dig?

Keep on pushing the PSP cause in euro.
 
A lot of people I know recently bought the Nintendogs bundle, whereas they were laughing at me when I showed my japanese copy several months ago. It seems the puppies are that irresistible. The new DS colors surely help too.
 
NWO said:
So the PSP has been outsold by the DS in the UK, Japan, and America in the past week? :lol

well why don't some of you so called journalists actually write this up instead of being in sony's pocket 24/7 - this is big news and the DS is now ouselling PSP everywhere in the world...
 
kaching said:
So, Gaybrush, are you telling us you could be giving us accurate HW sales figures for at least the UK on a weekly basis, but choose to withhold unless inspired by IN YOUR FACE figures?

You're no bunkum (or Rhindle), sir.

It's funny how this is the second best quote in the whole thread. Release numbers every week or this is meh.
 
ioi said:
Slightly off-topic, but I found this great chart showing GB and GBA hardware shipments right back to 1989 when the GB launched- it started pretty slowly but soon picked up.

I wonder how DS and PSP would compare to early GB sales.

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Source: http://everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/
The scary thing is, the GB/GBC showed no signs of slowing down before the GBA came about. It actually looks like it was doing its best at that time.
 
Link said:
The scary thing is, the GB/GBC showed no signs of slowing down before the GBA came about. It actually looks like it was doing its best at that time.
replacing something at the height of its popularity generates much more (positive) attention than replacing it at the end of its life cycle.

See: iPod nano for more information
 
borghe said:
replacing something at the height of its popularity generates much more (positive) attention than replacing it at the end of its life cycle.

See: iPod nano for more information
No, I completely understand and agree with that, but we're talking 11 years after the thing launched.
 
it's interesting, you can see the original life cycle of the GB, it peaked around the early 90s and then tailed off until 97 when pokemon came out and the GBC and just turned things on it's head again, and then as you say GBA just continued the crazy numbers.

The per year chart shows this very well, GB did about 19m in a year peak, which is just huge!
 
jamesinclair said:
I thought UK had a bigger market than that? Those numbers are lower than Japan which has a "shrinking" market.
The UK alone isn't that big. It's 30-40% of Europe. Videogames are the least accepted here of The Great Three VideoGaming Continents.
 
@Thomper It's more like 25%.

Btw. the GBC was really a beast. ~3 years after its launch GBA came out and it still managed these great numbers (I think it sold about 55m).
 
Frankfurter said:
@Thomper It's more like 25%.

Btw. the GBC was really a beast. ~3 years after its launch GBA came out and it still managed these great numbers (I think it sold about 55m).

~27%.
 
I'm confused; is it now fair game for any of us to post 'actual' sales numbers with no source and yet still have that info be taken as fact?

Not saying this is either true or false, but without a source I'm simply not interested. This is the internet after all. Interestingly though, I know for a fact that if the PSP/DS numbers were reversed, 90% of the replies would be crying foul at the validity of the claims. Bottom line IMO is without a source, regardless of who's leading who, I just ain't interested.
 
Heian-kyo said:
I'm confused; is it now fair game for any of us to post 'actual' sales numbers with no source and yet still have that info be taken as fact?

nope. It's ok for certain people though.
 
The thread creator is as credible as jonnyram or bunkum when it comes to numbers. I believe they work at or have high relations with Nintendo.
 
Heian-kyo said:
I'm confused; is it now fair game for any of us to post 'actual' sales numbers with no source and yet still have that info be taken as fact?

I'm sorry, but none of the western sales data we have has a "source". The accuracy of the data we get is entirely dependent on the trustworthiness of the poster. There's no link to any NPD data or CSFB reports or whatever. Rhindle, Sonycowboy, Bunkum and GT are all trusted sources. You either believe all of them or you believe none of them.

koam said:
Hmm, isn't that bad for the PSP considering it just came out in the UK?
I wouldn't say it's necessarily bad for the psp. More that it's good for the DS. Of course you could argue what's good for the DS is bad for the psp, which is true. The conclusion being that the 6 month delay to the psp in Europe has hurt them in their battle against the DS.
 
Gaybrush Threepio said:
Nintendo DS - 24,492
PSP - 18,723
GBA SP - 8,799

HAVE SOME OF THAT!!!

It's all about the dogs............. :D

That's quite an achievement for DS in UK, especially as retailers give minimal shelf space to DS (PSP has nearly 3 times DS's shelf space in most games shops). My local TRU still has huge displays in the windows advertising PSP even though they are out of stock. They are well stocked with Nintendogs DS bundles but you wouldn't know when you look in the shop Windows!!!
 
just going to say a couple of things on this topic (being a UK-er)

Firstly, you've got to remember that this is quite a big deal because the PSP has only been out here for a month or so, which the DS has been around over six months (and most of the big nintendo peeps bought them on import in december) (while importing PSP, although big, wasn't as wide spread).

Secondly, although GTA:LC will be a big deal for the PSP and undoubtably boost sales, it launches at a point where the XBox 360 is close enough to start displacing PSPs on peoples christmas lists AND around the same time as Mario Kart DS is launched. The online feature of Mario Kart is enough to make pretty much anyone I know who played it's previous incarnations, shell out ÂŁ100 in order to prove to their now distant friends who really was the post-pub Mushroom Cup king.

I honestly think the incredibly delayed launch of the PSP in europe has put it in a position where it could be gazumped by both the DS and the 360 this christmas.

There's no doubting this will change as time goes on, but I think this christmas the iPod Nano, the DS+Nintendogs+Mario Kart and the XBox 360 will be the big three under the tree
 
greenhouse said:
There's no doubting this will change as time goes on, but I think this christmas the iPod Nano, the DS+Nintendogs+Mario Kart and the XBox 360 will be the big three under the tree
Pokemon Emerald easily makes that big four under the tree. Especially when combined with the Micro(at ÂŁ69 the cheapest new Game Boy ever unlike the premium price elsewhere) .
 
hde226868 said:
90% of Europe WAS dominated by Sony.

Nintendo DS & Nintendogs is doing very well in UK & Europe too.

Uh, I think it takes a tiny bit more than a non-Sony handheld temporarily toping the charts to make Europe not Sony dominated.
 
Amir0x said:
Uh, I think it takes a tiny bit more than a non-Sony handheld temporarily toping the charts to make Europe not Sony dominated.
Well, he could have just meant that now only 89% is dominated by Sony.
 
Well in the handheld realm, Ninty had a 64% share of the hardware for the week. Although the UK is Chav Central, it is also a nation of dog lovers and it shows.
 
F the thread starter for real. Most of the people should take this BS. Yes the numbers are probably real, but why the hell is he ALL OF A SUDDEN posting this week. A damn week that we don't even know the date for.

We should be pissed off that he can't do this on a weekly or at least bi-weekly basis. What were the numbers in the UK the past 5 or 6 weeks? Will he post more if the PSP pasts the DS?
 
"Didn't say there was one, just saying don't epect these weekly numbers once the PSP goes back on top of the PSP."

on GAF ? the internet king of pissing contests?

I'm expecting it - and i'm expecting Izzy to post it!
 
On Another Note.... Nintendogs reaches Number one in Australia and its the Lab Version :D
 
Gchaime said:
Wow.

I can't remember the last time a nintendo console beat a sony console, i'm not even sure if such a thing has ever happened.
Well, it's not like there is a long history of Nintendo vs Sony portables to look at as precedent.
 
Unfortunately I think it inevitable that PSP overtakes DS in Europe. PSP simply enjoys much greater retail support. It's everywhere. The only thing that can possibly hold it back IMO is the steep price. Europeans for some reason enjoy mediocre games so the lacklustre software library shouldn't be a problem.
 
I concur, the PSP is everywhere, Sony rebranded all retailers with huge PSP posters. In France it's been the case since the preorder program back in July. They must pay a lot for that kind of exposure. Still, from what I can tell the DS is gaining momentum in Europe and you start seeing PSPs for sale on ebay and in specialized forums.
 
To be fair - the reasons I don't post weekly sales figures are firstly - I don't really have the time, secondly they are generally confidential but I couldn't resist posting this weeks as it's the first time DS has overtaken the PSP since the latter was released in the UK, and thirdly if you don't believe me then it doesn't really matter anyway, does it? ;)
 
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