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UK Monthly Charts November 2023: PS5 Accounted for practically half of the games consoles sold during November
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Crispy Gamer
Member
That PS5 year over year increase is kinda nuts there's no way they can improve that in 2024
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Month on Month
PS5 +149%
XBS +231%
NSW +175%
GG to all of them, fantastic month for Series.
PS5 +149%
XBS +231%
NSW +175%
GG to all of them, fantastic month for Series.
yazenov
Member
"Modern Warfare 3 are just under 38% lower compared with last year's Modern Warfare 2.“
But those engagement tweets were through the ROOF according to MS and Activision.
So their new playbook is to talk about gibrish engagement instead of sales when sales are down. 38% is a huge decline. Holy shit!
Guys have a look at this thread and have a good laugh at their expense.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/modern-warfare-iii-sets-new-engagement-records.1663759/
But those engagement tweets were through the ROOF according to MS and Activision.
So their new playbook is to talk about gibrish engagement instead of sales when sales are down. 38% is a huge decline. Holy shit!
Guys have a look at this thread and have a good laugh at their expense.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/modern-warfare-iii-sets-new-engagement-records.1663759/
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Mownoc
Member
Big month for PS5 and now we truly know how much worse this year's CoD performed. 38% drop is pretty huge.
As for Xbox hardware... Well at least it's up but with the heavy discounts, Series S as low as £184 and the Series X £120 discount just 4% up YoY is a poor result. I said before they needed to be at least double figures with the heavy promotions they were having.
YoY
PS5 +126%
Xbox +4%
Switch -19%
As for Xbox hardware... Well at least it's up but with the heavy discounts, Series S as low as £184 and the Series X £120 discount just 4% up YoY is a poor result. I said before they needed to be at least double figures with the heavy promotions they were having.
YoY
PS5 +126%
Xbox +4%
Switch -19%
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TheBomb
Member
Right! I guess to place ads anywhere to make the difference. That’s the engagement coming to light.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
And The Game Awards. Don´t forget.
Horseganador
Member
UK November 2023:
486K consoles sold - PS5 almost 50%
PS5 +126% yoy
XBS +4% yoy
Switch -19% yoy
PS5 selling more than twice as much as last year, Xbox barely manages to sell the same despite the big discounts and Switch a slight drop, for the time it has been doing quite well.
486K consoles sold - PS5 almost 50%
PS5 +126% yoy
XBS +4% yoy
Switch -19% yoy
PS5 selling more than twice as much as last year, Xbox barely manages to sell the same despite the big discounts and Switch a slight drop, for the time it has been doing quite well.
yazenov
Member
Month over Month is meaningless due to Black Friday sales and holidays.
More relevant is the Year over Year.
YoY
PS5 up 126%
Xbox up 4%.
Switch down 19%
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Stare-Bear
Banned
Imagine dropping 70 billies and the main money maker sees a 38% drop in sales. Should have waited a year or two and they could've gotten Activision for a lot less...
Mr Moose
Member
I hope you're joking but I can't tell
Lol using month on month, non holiday month vs holiday month to spin Xbox hardware numbers into something good
Xbox was almost flat compared to last year notwithstanding the promotions.
For the month it's basically:
PS5 240k
XBS 120k
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I hope you're joking but I can't tell
Just stating the numbers in the OP.
Just like the numerous users leaving reactions and replying to my post are as well
Mibu no ookami
Banned
PS5 Pro, heavily discounted PS5, but yeah, it'll be difficult.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Did you mean...engagement reactions?Just stating the numbers in the OP.
Just like the numerous users leaving reactions and replying to my post are as well
Mownoc
Member
Xbox Series X was on sale for £430 BF 2022. £360 this year, £70 cheaper but only sold 4% more. Released starfield and Forza in 2023 and nothing in 2022. Only sold 4% more.
I don't see how MS can possibly get this thing selling if £70 cheaper than last year barely moves the needle.
I don't see how MS can possibly get this thing selling if £70 cheaper than last year barely moves the needle.
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Lol using month on month, non holiday month vs holiday month to spin Xbox hardware numbers into something good
Xbox was almost flat compared to last year notwithstanding the promotions.
For the month it's basically:
PS5 240k
XBS 120k
It's curious, Why you talk as if PS5 had not had promotions that were very much on par in price with XSX??..... In fact, PS5 has had better promotions than XSX all year also Nobember with Spiderman !!
Of course, it is not that XSX is the only one that has been sold with a price reduction compared to the BF of 2022.
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No I talk that one did promotions on old models and got a 126% growth, the other did promotions and they barely prevented a yoy decline.
I think it's useless to deny that these numbers are extremely disappointing for Xbox.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
I generally take you more seriously than say
adamsapple
but this is absurd. No one said PS5 wasn't discounted. The difference is that one is flat and the other isn't.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
It's a weird thing man. Really good increase for Xbox Series. But this kinda sounds like game releases literally do nothing, people are just going to wait until the price drops to even consider getting an Xbox.
And yeah, I know PS5 had a discount before the Slim dropped, but even before that PS5 was at like 200% and 400% increases during some months just because people wanted to play The Last of Us (or that's what it seemed like anyway).
And yeah, I know PS5 had a discount before the Slim dropped, but even before that PS5 was at like 200% and 400% increases during some months just because people wanted to play The Last of Us (or that's what it seemed like anyway).
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ByWatterson
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So, in June, my friend got married. One month in, their cumulative marriage time went up 3000%. Incredible.
But in that same month, I, who have been married for 15 years, only increased my cumulative marriage time by about 0.5%.
Catastrophic result for me, really.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Take the highest looking numbers and run with it regardless of context. Straight from the MS playbook, well done. As an added bonus, you're getting a lot of engagement. You're doing
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GHG
Member
ulantan
Member
It's because those games are in demand and sell well. as much as everyone around here hates spiderman and the last of us these games move consoles. Until xbox reach that bar or sony drops it Nothing will change.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
That's because this generation is over. It wouldn't even be as close as it is (and it isn't close) had it not been for the pandemic.
Microsoft hasn't released a killer app in over a decade. Individual titles no longer mean anything. In fact if Microsoft does release a killer app, it'll just be glossed over at this point. Kind of like Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4 (before it got ported), Shenmue, Zelda Twilight Princess, and Breath of the Wild had it not released on Switch.
Nobody is denying that these figures are not disappointing, it's just that the image you are trying to express to evaluate them is far from being the real one...
Then, I don't understand the comparison. That the cheaper/liquidation old model boosted sales?? Taking into account that the new model is a null update and that the In fact, if you look at the entire month of November, you have that Sony has had several weeks of liquidation of PS5 original model + launch of PS"slim" + Spidermam + BK offers on par with XSX. That is, that is a very different image than the one that XSX is flat despite the discount on the BF...
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The difference is that PS5 during this entire November has not only had a similar discount as XSX during the BF, it had a clearance sale of the old model for weeks and the launch of Spiderman also.....I generally take you more seriously than say
No one said PS5 wasn't discounted. The difference is that one is flat and the other isn't.
What I mean is that it's not the situation where the XSeries was selling £70+ cheaper than the PS5 all month and still didn't boost its sales. No, that is not the real image. Simply that PS5 is boosted in sales and XSX would need much more than just matching the price of its console to that of PS5 for a couple of weeks...
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That's MoM. As meaningless as my nipples, considering the 2nd month in question is the Black Friday month, while October wasn't.
A YoY comparison is the only meaningful comparison here: BF 2022 vs. BF 2023.
I don't think it's hard to understand.
I just meant that one is growing a lot compared to last year, the other could barely avoid a decline.
Both did their promotions to drive sales.
I've not suggested that Sony didn't do anything at all while Xbox has been selling at half the price, just that the impact of such promotions has been deeply different because one product is simply much more desired than the other.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Well, we are talking from the perspective that PS5 has been unleashed in sales all year where it has also had many better promotions during it. Of course I don't think anyone expect that XSeries would emerge in sales simply matching promotion prices with PS5 for a couple of weeks to change that dynamic...Without forgetting that the jump in % compared to Nov 2022 for PS5 is also closely linked to the shortage of Stock that it had in the previous BF.
That said, I repeat, I only highlighted that aspect described. Which is not a situation where for the entirety of November the XSeries has been selling £70+ cheaper than the PS5 without further ado. No, that's not the situation, more like one where PS5 has had weeks of old model liquidation price (while XSX sells for £489), Spiderman release and BF offers similar to XSX.
In that situation and in the sales context in which we are, of course the obvious has simply been demonstrated at this point that it is nothing more than that XSeries needs much more than simply matching its price to PS5 for a couple of weeks to boost its sales.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
That have a greater appeal to the PC audience.
I think that is one of the biggest factors Xbox has agains it (in the context of the console sales).
Black Friday week in the UK was the biggest sales week for PS5 outside of its launch week. It was the No.3 biggest week for Xbox Series S and X, too.
£167 million worth of video game consoles, accessories and physical games were sold over the Black Friday week in the UK, GfK reveals. It's the third biggest Black Friday for video games so far. It's only beaten by Black Friday 2013 and Black Friday 2020, which both coincided with the launch of...
But XBox was completely flat during Black Friday Week itself so what are you talking about?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Tbf, the article says ps5 was sold out last year for black Friday and this is the first year they could actually be involved in the black Friday month. So, xbox benefited from being in stock last year when ps5 wasn't.
All the numbers are being spun in some form.
They all did well.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Hence why award show accolades are irrelevant! This is a monstrous result for PlayStation and all I want to see from them now are the serious heavy hitters!
Xbox? I wouldn't say it did "well", but it wasn't a complete disaster. After the holidays is where I think it's going to get bad.
Switch is Switch. The little console/hybrid that could (did)! Remains a monster!
Xbox? I wouldn't say it did "well", but it wasn't a complete disaster. After the holidays is where I think it's going to get bad.
Switch is Switch. The little console/hybrid that could (did)! Remains a monster!
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Dying brand
Visualising what I just can't understand. Better line-up of recent exclusives, much more aggressive series X pricing and sales increase by a tiny fraction.
??? First, it's clear to me that you didn't understand what I'm saying or what I mean. I invite you to review the beginning of the "discussion"... Second, XS being +4% compared to BF 2022 where it sold almost twice as much as PS5 due to the lack of stock of the latter (it was 40% XS, 40% Switch, 20% PS5). I mean, there's a context to PS5 up % as well.Black Friday week in the UK was the biggest sales week for PS5 outside of its launch week. It was the No.3 biggest week for Xbox Series S and X, too.
£167 million worth of video game consoles, accessories and physical games were sold over the Black Friday week in the UK, GfK reveals. It's the third biggest Black Friday for video games so far. It's only beaten by Black Friday 2013 and Black Friday 2020, which both coincided with the launch of...www.neogaf.com
But XBox was completely flat during Black Friday Week itself so what are you talking about?
PS: XSX is up 247% from the previous month on BF 2 week discounts alone. It's not that the sales discount haven't done anything simplily that, at the same price, is not enougth vs PS5.
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TheGodfather07
Member
Xbox really is dead. Big discounts and only 4% up from last year? Stock was the excuse last year. What's the excuse now though? This is a holiday month too. How bad will it be come January? Xbox is totally fucked next year. We're talking sub 5m worldwide levels of fucked.
Mownoc
Member
Xbox Series X was discounted to £430 in the UK BF 2022. This year it was discounted to £360. Last year they had Pentiment, this year they had Starfield and Forza. When they have a better games lineup and such a drastic reduction in price and see basically no YoY growth I can't say they did well.
They knocked £70 off compared to last year and barely sold more.