Artoris
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I have been in contact with many Pit bulls and I have nether felt threatened they have a very similar character to my Jack Russell
I have had some bad experience with Labradors, and I am somewhat scared of rottweilers
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UK to ban XL Bully Dogs
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I have had some bad experience with Labradors, and I am somewhat scared of rottweilers
FunkMiller
Gold Member
All this arguing is all very well, but the point is that cunts have these dogs because they’re cunts.
And cunts turn these dogs into weapons, because they’re cunts. We can’t put down the cunts, so we have to put down the dogs, and ban them.
This reality applies to absolutely everything that can be bought which can be lethal to human beings. Cunts ruin things for the rest of us.
So, the next time a new law or regulation is announced to fuck the cunts over who ruin it for everyone else, support it 100%.
And yes, this should apply to guns as well.
And cunts turn these dogs into weapons, because they’re cunts. We can’t put down the cunts, so we have to put down the dogs, and ban them.
This reality applies to absolutely everything that can be bought which can be lethal to human beings. Cunts ruin things for the rest of us.
So, the next time a new law or regulation is announced to fuck the cunts over who ruin it for everyone else, support it 100%.
And yes, this should apply to guns as well.
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Artoris
Gold Member
Should we really start putting dogs down because there are cunts? They will start breading dobermans and rottweilers, shall we also put them down then?
Hudo
Member
That's the real problem right there.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Until and unless we start putting stricter restrictions on the cunts, yes. That's the way things are.
BigLee74
Gold Member
Good.
Bring back licensing, make muzzles compulsory for certain breeds when outdoors, and make everything super expensive to discourage all smelly jakey bastards from owning them in the first place.
Nobody should be innocently going about their day only to be savaged by dogs designed for savaging.
Bring back licensing, make muzzles compulsory for certain breeds when outdoors, and make everything super expensive to discourage all smelly jakey bastards from owning them in the first place.
Nobody should be innocently going about their day only to be savaged by dogs designed for savaging.
UnravelKatharsis
Member
Here you go:
When I looked into the data further past the 7 most dangerous breeds, there was a shocking entry.
Chihuahua’s were responsible for 1 human death between 2005 and 2017.
Yes, that’s right, a Chihuahua was responsible for killing someone between the years 2005 and 2017, with one death logged in the United States!
Chihuahua Bite Force PSI Pressure & Statistics on Fatalities
Ever wondered how hard or dangerous a Chihuahua bite is? I look at bite force pressure, plus how many deaths are recorded each year from Chihuahua bites.doggysaurus.com
Also, Chihuahua’s were the breed that came in 4th when it came to bites on children.
Lol, I already knew about this and I knew you were going to find the one instance where a Chihuahua was alleged to be involved in a human killing. I wonder if you read far enough into it to see that two pitbulls were also involved? Coincidence right? But nah I'm sure it was the Chihuahua that did the killing.
It's disingenuous to credit that death to a Chihuahua when there was no evidence it took part in the death of the person in question. It was present along with two pitbulls. But nice try.
UnravelKatharsis
Member
What's embarrassing is that this story was even mentioned when if you read it it goes on to say that the Chihuahua likely wasn't even involved since...y'know there were two pitbulls in the home that in all likelihood did the killing and a chihuahuas bite force is negligible.
Banjo64
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You have no evidence to support your hypothesis.
UnravelKatharsis
Member
Only years of data showing pitbulls kill people and chihuahuas don't. But I guess on the subject of empirical evidence, I have just as much as you and the article you used debunks your own argument.
Maybe in the future, read past the headline when using a material to make your point?
Banjo64
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This is the headline:
Chihuahua Bite Force PSI Pressure & Statistics on Fatalities
The author links to his source for the data:
I found some data compiled by the excellent DogsBites.org website which compiles annual statistics on dog bites and attacks leading to human fatalities in the United States.
And then the author speculates that because 2 pit bulls live in the house he thinks they could have been involved.
Again, your argument is flaccid and mercurial.
UnravelKatharsis
Member
Which argument exactly? I wonder what makes the most sense.
1. A Chihuahua killing an adult all by itself.
2. A Chihuahua, living in a house alongside two pitbulls in which the pitbulls attacked and killed the adult.
I can't take you seriously at all if you believe the former. You're the one arguing that a fucking Chihuahua killed an adult.
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Banjo64
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The stats don’t lie friend.
clarky
Gold Member
Huh?What are you on about?
One poster was calling for all bull breeds to be banned. Hence my post.
Dural
Member
We were thinking that, but nope just English bulldog and American bulldog. American bulldogs do look like boxers though.
UnravelKatharsis
Member
What are you? Let's not pretend for a moment that you think there's any chance that would ever happen.
BigDeadFreak
Member
Wow, one in 12 years in a country of over 300 million. They're clearly as dangerous as XL Bullies. You've convinced me.Here you go:
When I looked into the data further past the 7 most dangerous breeds, there was a shocking entry.
Chihuahua’s were responsible for 1 human death between 2005 and 2017.
Yes, that’s right, a Chihuahua was responsible for killing someone between the years 2005 and 2017, with one death logged in the United States!
Chihuahua Bite Force PSI Pressure & Statistics on Fatalities
Ever wondered how hard or dangerous a Chihuahua bite is? I look at bite force pressure, plus how many deaths are recorded each year from Chihuahua bites.
Also, Chihuahua’s were the breed that came in 4th when it came to bites on children.
Banjo64
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I wasn’t trying to convince anyone of that.
I even highlighted the part I was replying to in bold so nobody could misunderstand.
Please show me a single account of a Chihuahua ever killing anyone.
UnravelKatharsis
Member
If it's even true, which there's no evidence it is-I looked into this mythical Chihuahua killing, it's actually one in history. But some delusional people don't care about empirical data and only operate on emotion. Clearly Chihuahuas are as or more dangerous than pitbulls/pitbull mixes.
Newuserdontflame
Neo Member
Never seen a thread with so many shit takes. Wow.
funkygunther
Banned
heh don’t flame bro
Jinzo Prime
Gold Member
As an American I cannot even understand this viewpoint. It is so antithetical to my beliefs, that I wouldn't even entertain the thought.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
It’s an incredibly sensible viewpoint to make life very difficult for the cunts that ruin society for the rest of us.
Winter John
Member
The problem as I see it is there needs to be barriers to stop people who never had a dog before getting their hands on pitbulls and them kind of dogs. It’s like someone who never rode a bike buying a Harley and riding straight out on the highway.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
statically if they start breeding them specifically for that and the statistics jump, then yes they will get legislated, the fact those breeds have lasted for so long pre XL suggests that there is something that stops them from being anywhere close to as lethal.
The key difference here is that after covid the breed has statically caused more deaths and attacks than any other dog breed despite being woefully underrepresented in the total dog population of the UK, leading to an overall surge in dog attacks. So you legislate and pop them on the list, this is not a new law, its just an amendment to the existing one (Yanks sure love never shutting up about the 2nd amendment so I would think they would understand the concept)
you stick a muzzle on it, have its balls chopped off and it lives out its life, or you don't and it gets put in the furnace, eventually the breed will naturally disappear and if it don't... well we have one more easy arrest reason for organised crime.
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Artoris
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There is no magic bullet in fixing people who want to live semi criminal lives and started to kill dogs will not fix it
Eotheod
Member
It is all about training. Actually force people to train their fucking dogs and not just get a breed because they feel a bit lonely and want some company. Dogs are animals, and if not trained are closer to their wild side where they can not be trusted to avoid instinct.
I have a Kelpie and a border collie x husky (technically has 3% rottweiler!), with both my dogs having gone through significant training to ensure they are not aggressive. They are definitely boisterous, and that can be frightening to some with such larger dogs. However I have complete control over them when it comes to public outings, because I trained them so.
The problem with breeds like staffies, rottweilers and bulldogs is they are bred to be hunting dogs. I live in Outback Queensland Australia, we use those breeds for pigging. No one walks them in public because they are killer machines trained for that purpose. They are a literal asset to cockies who hunt the kangaroos and hogs for bounties.
What you get with the current breeds is dickhead obnoxious fuck sticks thinking they are top shit for owning an aggressive breed to make their dicks bigger. What they need is for the dog to actually turn around and bit their cock to show them how dangerous they are with basically no training which is so common. That is the true problem with these breeds.
Also what's with the specific type of woman owning these breeds? The real bimbo, big chested fake titty kind of person with some choice tats?
I have a Kelpie and a border collie x husky (technically has 3% rottweiler!), with both my dogs having gone through significant training to ensure they are not aggressive. They are definitely boisterous, and that can be frightening to some with such larger dogs. However I have complete control over them when it comes to public outings, because I trained them so.
The problem with breeds like staffies, rottweilers and bulldogs is they are bred to be hunting dogs. I live in Outback Queensland Australia, we use those breeds for pigging. No one walks them in public because they are killer machines trained for that purpose. They are a literal asset to cockies who hunt the kangaroos and hogs for bounties.
What you get with the current breeds is dickhead obnoxious fuck sticks thinking they are top shit for owning an aggressive breed to make their dicks bigger. What they need is for the dog to actually turn around and bit their cock to show them how dangerous they are with basically no training which is so common. That is the true problem with these breeds.
Also what's with the specific type of woman owning these breeds? The real bimbo, big chested fake titty kind of person with some choice tats?
STARSBarry
Gold Member
because they have a boyfriend whos a drug dealer who pays for those fake tits.
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Artoris
Gold Member
The country is going down the sit hole and people like you are happy so long as you can have someone else to blame, let's have another have brexit or murder some dogs anything but to take a long look in the mirror to see the real problem
funkygunther
Banned
let it all out man
STARSBarry
Gold Member
watch you don't pull a muscle from all that stretching your doing here.
Artoris
Gold Member
Enjoy the fruits of your cleverness
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
The only dog I ever had a bad experience with was my buddies border collie/Australian Shepard. It was totally nuts. It would bite all the time and was completely unpredictable. But, it wasn’t indicative of the whole breed. Just itself. Banning a whole species seems terrible to me. There must be another way. Also, I assume they mean the species going forward. Surely they wouldn’t euthanize existing ones? Just make it illegal to breed more?
funkygunther
Banned
we don’t know until the law is passed, but when other dog breeds were banned in UK the existing dogs weren’t culled…they had to be neutered, registered, chipped, and muzzled and leashed everywhere in public
DeafTourette
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This is why I love NeoGAF... THIS is how you have a conversation!
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Shoot, I forgot. My big brother had a Siberian Husky... He LOVED that dog! And she was so sweet! Until a DUMBASS hit her with a truck. She was a shadow of her former LIVELY self. She was paralyzed from the waist down and was depressed. When she died, my brother hit the wall and CRACKED it! It was an old school wall made of oak. She really was one of the sweetest animals I've ever known.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I went to a flea market today that had signs posted saying no pitbull or bully XL dogs allowed. At that very same flea market were people selling pitbull and bully XL dogs. Not just puppies, but full grown. I kept wondering how people would get them home if they can't walk through the market with them.
Eotheod
Member
Or, you look at the breed statistics and realise we fucked up in letting the breed go that far without licencing/monitoring. These dogs are machines built for a purpose, trust me I see them out here as pigging dogs and they are fucking ferocious. They are trained to hunt, grab onto a pig and never let go. Fuck, I saw one getting punctured and wouldn't let go.
No one should own a dog breed that is bred for that purpose outside of said purpose. I am all for not killing dogs, I hate the thought of it, but if you are irresponsible and that dog is too far gone in its behaviour (it is incredibly hard to retrain pits and terriers due to tendencies and past trauma) then it needs to be put down and the owner fined or jailed.
Dogs are not some set and forget animal. If you want something simple get a fish. Licence breeds, actually enforce it and that will definitely reduce some of the issues. Inherently though, the breed does have its aggressive tendencies like many larger dogs so it's difficult to just have one solution.
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UnravelKatharsis
Member
What are the chances that border Collie could overpower and kill you? Honest question.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Pretty low, could main someone good or hurt a kid.
im not comparing the two either to be clear.
Tams
Member
Two points:
1. A chihuahua has far fewer inches to exert pressure.
2. Even a child can beat off a chihuahua. They certainly don't take multiple massive blows and still hang on, like shitbulls do.
Banjo64
cumsessed
What about a Chihuahua-Bully XL cross breed?
simpatico
Member
Even if "brought up properly" there are countless stories of dogs that were owned for 5+ years who get startled one day and rip the owners face off or maul their child. It's just not worth it. Too many other other dog breed alternatives. They don't belong in civilized society.
Tams
Member
I mean, the comment you quoted has me saying just that...
s_mirage
Member
I'm not against that in principle, but AFAIK they didn't really serve a purpose other than to raise funds. They did nothing to enforce more responsible ownership.
Dog licenses are pointless if all there is to them is a trip to the post office and payment of a fee, as is the case with fishing licenses. There's also the issue of enforcement. I doubt an already overstretched police force that struggles to investigate crimes as it is would be delighted about having to do random dog license checks too.
UnravelKatharsis
Member
It's apparent that logic and reason don't belong in this thread with some members.
I bet someone stepped on a Chihuahua and fell down the stairs and died and that's the one death actually attributed to the dog. Even having to argue that a Chihuahua is incapable of killing a human is absurd in its obviousness.
Liljagare
Member
There are no breeds that are inherently "evulz wullf monzters" and deserve to be eradicated.
But, there are breeds that require precise and excellent training in order not to be death machines.
Most dog owners don't realize that almost all dogs *NEED* 4-8 hours of activity aday with their owner, or they develop some issues. Some breeds require 12-14 hours of activity a day in order not to go some what nuts.
But, there are breeds that require precise and excellent training in order not to be death machines.
Most dog owners don't realize that almost all dogs *NEED* 4-8 hours of activity aday with their owner, or they develop some issues. Some breeds require 12-14 hours of activity a day in order not to go some what nuts.
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