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UK's so-called "grooming gangs" get international attention

lifa-cobex

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This is exactly why nothing will really come out from all this.
It's getting attention but like before. It will blow over and the public will move on.
It will prob creep up again in another 5/6 years again as it did before.

Absolutely nobody in our government will do anything about this. They're all in cahoots with one another and it just won't change.
It's not like we really have a Pierre Poilievre that just calls out the ball shit from the other end.

This fucking religion is entirely protected in far too many places around the world and i haven't the foggiest as to why.
It doesn't evolve, it doesn't adapt with the times and it mix with anything around it. It's a stringent, gated cult that simply erodes everything around it.
 

lifa-cobex

Member
I have no problem with immigration as long as you are a decent human AND have a net positive contribution to the wider society in some meaningful way. And of course, you better learn the damn language. Unfortunately the open border policy of the UK is horrendous. There are thousands and thousands of asylum seekers in the UK who are going to contribute fuck all to the economy or society at large.
Notice how nobody here has ever had any issues the the Sikh, Hindu or Indian community over here.
Perfectly lovely people that have adapted to the British community's whilst keeping their ways.
They didn't come here for being cheap labour. They have contributed the economy and and progressed into high tier jobs (what I would class as high tier jobs) such as doctors and nurses.
Respectable professions that are in aid of the general public.

Not : Will work as cheap labour force but for benefits from the British public.
 
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Notice how nobody here has ever had any issues the the Sikh, Hindu or Indian community over here.
Perfectly lovely people that have adapted to the British community's whilst keeping their ways.
They didn't come here for being cheap labour. They have contributed the economy and and progressed into high tier jobs (what I would class as high tier jobs) such as doctors and nurses.
Respectable professions that are in aid of the general public.

Not : Will work as cheap labour force but for benefits from the British public.
In fairness there are plenty of Pakistanis who also fit those categories. The GP surgeries in my town appear to be run by a combination of Pakistani and Indian Doctors.

My accountant is a Pakistani - he's a lovely guy and has helped me a great deal for my business.
 
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Hugare

Member
Except the Japanese are heading towards disaster with e.g. not having enough doctors or nurses to care for the elderly unless they let people in. Same for working construction, maintaining public services e.g. your thrash will be taken every 3, not 2 days. In the city hall you will be able to fill out forms till 3pm, not 5pm, etc. Not enough doctors - that appointment that took 3 months 20 years ago will now take a year, sucks for you if you die due to undiagnosed cancer...
With Japan it might just work since the Japanese will sit and wait for the inevitable, but this will not be the situation in majority of the countries worldwide.

Another example - illegal immigrants working on the farms in the US, but even Europe. Without them the whole faming system (or parts of it) will collapse, since nobody wants to do it for official rates.
Well, pick your poison, I guess. There's no easy solution.

Selecting immigrants more thoroughly would do wonders.

Japan will have to open up some more eventually, but they have to do it in a smart way
 

Artoris

Gold Member
The white brits have really let their own down. They're more scared of being called 'racist' than actually protecting their own kids. It's fucking insane.

Sure the UK's past if horrible, but so is every other country's if you look far back enough.

What they've now done is take the term 'immigration' and co-opted it to mean: Enter into our country at-will, commit heinous acts and get away with it.

What's worst of all is that all the feminist queens are completely silent on this issue.

Where have they disappeared to?
some of them were helping the gangs

 

GloveSlap

Member
My graduation's thesis was about immigration's workforce in Europe and its importance. I've read tons of papers about it.

It's a very hard topic to come up with a sollution. Japan, as I've mentioned, arent facing the same problems as Europe right now with immigrants. In the other hand, they are getting older and their population is dimminishing rapidly. What to do?

Selecting educated immigrants would be a start, imo
Smaller populations might be a bad thing for "numbers must go up" but they are a good thing for the planet's health. It could also help ease the demand and cost of housing as well as long as they ban foreign ownership.

I understand how an aging population can be a problem, but i think it will become less of an issue as things become more and more automated. The economy will probably have to be adjusted to something like a universal basic income + capitalism system at some point though. I could even see native birthrates start to creep back up if people aren't so burdened with the daily grind.

Countries that still have high birthrates need to support themselves without Western aid and immigration or scale down.
 
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I’ve known about this for years, and was aghast that nobody in the UK, from the Queen to the PM to the public, seemed to care.

Where were these girls’ parents?
 

lifa-cobex

Member
In fairness there are plenty of Pakistanis who also fit those categories. The GP surgeries in my town appear to be run by a combination of Pakistani and Indian Doctors.

My accountant is a Pakistani - he's a lovely guy and has helped me a great deal for my business.
It was more of a homogeneous comment around immigrants. Not listing specific ones.
More critical towards a specific religion as apposed to what other immigrants believe in.
The white brits have really let their own down. They're more scared of being called 'racist' than actually protecting their own kids. It's fucking insane.

Sure the UK's past if horrible, but so is every other country's if you look far back enough.

What they've now done is take the term 'immigration' and co-opted it to mean: Enter into our country at-will, commit heinous acts and get away with it.

What's worst of all is that all the feminist queens are completely silent on this issue.

Where have they disappeared to?

It's not so much that the British public has let itself down.
It's more that the government acted against the people. Were entirely powerless against the police.
Were a country that gets you investigated and arrested for tweets. The police probably favour doing that more than having to deal with real, situational problems.


Showing a bit of my family's hand in these proceedings....

You live in a small town.
You get told hearsay about your child. Most of it very serious and worrisome. You ask child. Child denies it.
You report something to your local office (in person) and your told to ignore it. Teens being teens and that your being paranoid.
You then escalate the matter by contacting the emergency services (police) because family member has been touched inappropriately and their was an element of danger. Underage teen was put in a situation without consent with a much older degenerate.
The police come over to take a statement. They take all the information (what happened, who, when and where) and disappear into the night. Should absolutely be an arrest.
You would hope that further proceedings would take place. But nothing happens. Not enough evidence and cannot locate suspect.
Basically "go away".
You know for a fact who these people are in your area as does everyone else.
Stalking occur.
Threats happen.
You can't leave your home out of fear and your children don't go out and play anymore.
Report more to the police. (This is just a local dispute. Go away.)

I'm not going into anymore. It got worse.

Imo the victims involved did the absolute correct thing. Sold up, and buggered off abroad.
Aside from gathering pitchforks and torches. Their is nothing you can really do.

All the feminist shit was just laughable. Back when it all came to games was just a huge joke.
Put a pussy hat on.
Talk about first world problems.
 
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IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
The white brits have really let their own down. They're more scared of being called 'racist' than actually protecting their own kids. It's fucking insane.

Getting called "racist" is the least of it.

In addition to getting called racist, you can get arrested, lose your job and even get prison time for saying something that others might find offensive.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
How much longer?

V For Vendetta 5Th Of November GIF
 

FunkMiller

Banned
Lol...why is Musk so (seemingly) invested in what's going on in the UK?

He has a very small business footprint in the UK so I can't understand why he cares one way or the other.

Musk is attacking western nations non stop, and says nothing about China and Russia. This should be instructive for everyone.

Notwithstanding the fact he’s actually right to be highlighting this grooming gang scandal.
 

Dr.Guru of Peru

played the long game
Honest question - Starmer's been in power for 6 months. I swear I've been hearing about Pakistani gangs/rapes/the cover up and subsequent expose for years if not a decade. Why is this in the news now and why is Starmer getting the blame?
 

Bojji

Member
Honest question - Starmer's been in power for 6 months. I swear I've been hearing about Pakistani gangs/rapes/the cover up and subsequent expose for years if not a decade. Why is this in the news now and why is Starmer getting the blame?

He is calling it some far right conspiracy instead or opening nation wide investigation (including actual rapes and cover up).

Problem is, this investigation would probably be harmful for him and his colleagues in some way (despite not being the ruling party).
 
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Jinzo Prime

Member
He is calling it some far right conspiracy instead or opening nation wide investigation (including actual rapes and cover up).

Problem is, this investigation would probably be harmful for him and his colleagues in some way (despite not being the ruling party).
Yeah, he could score some serious points against the Tories, but he chooses not to. Makes you go 🤔🤨
 

FunkMiller

Banned
This fucking religion is entirely protected in far too many places around the world and i haven't the foggiest as to why.
It doesn't evolve, it doesn't adapt with the times and it mix with anything around it. It's a stringent, gated cult that simply erodes everything around it.

Because if a government cracks down on the religious freedoms of one religion, it’d have to do it with them all, otherwise it’d open itself up to legal action.
 

Tams

Member
Utterly and comprehensively stupid response for Starmer.



Public opinion is clear on this. You can’t just hand wave it away, slag off the social media bloke, call everyone far right, and think you can get away without putting more scrutiny on the scandal.


Especially when the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse they are saying now needs to have its recommendations followed:
  • Has very weak and even pointless recommendations that solve nothing
  • Has been plagued by issues, such as resignations, including one because he was a sex offender
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member


Saying "bloody foreigner" is a crime. Amazing.

What about "bloody cunts" ...?

He is 100% using it for political purposes
I would not say 100%. When he took over Twitter, he made public statements about how there were organized groups of pedos in the thousands on the platform and have been operating there going unbanned or unreported (to authorities) for years, and that he was going to work with law enforcement agencies to go after those people.

A lot jumped ship and migrated over the BlueSky, ironically.

He seems to have a personal vested interest in going after these monsters, as we all should.

But if it means justice for those girls, I really dont care about his reasons.
Agreed.
 
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Bojji

Member
Because if a government cracks down on the religious freedoms of one religion, it’d have to do it with them all, otherwise it’d open itself up to legal action.

As far as I know Muslims aren't allowed to rape children officially by British law. There is no freedom of religion here. They should be treated by law the same as people with different religions. They got free pass instead.

I don't like PJW takes on Russia and few other things (obviously agenda driven) but when it comes to this stuff he is spot on:

 
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Tams

Member
Honest question - Starmer's been in power for 6 months. I swear I've been hearing about Pakistani gangs/rapes/the cover up and subsequent expose for years if not a decade. Why is this in the news now and why is Starmer getting the blame?

His government are in power now, so it falls on them.

He was the chief prosecutor (for the whole country) at the time of many of the known atrocities.

Members of his party have been involved in the cover-ups.
 
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Dr.Morris79

Gold Member
Utterly and comprehensively stupid response for Starmer.



Public opinion is clear on this. You can’t just hand wave it away, slag off the social media bloke, call everyone far right, and think you can get away without putting more scrutiny on the scandal.

Exactly. I couldn't actually believed he said that.

We honestly can't have another four years of this, it's awful in every possible way conceivable.
 

YCoCg

Member
We honestly can't have another four years of this,
But who else is there? Reform are the outsiders now but pressure is already on Farage for folding over issues, if they get in and nothing is done then literally NO PARTY is interested in fixing this.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
The UK is truly lost, for good I'm afraid.
Quite the history, innit? Old habits don't die hard.


 
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Doczu

Member
Musk is attacking western nations non stop, and says nothing about China and Russia. This should be instructive for everyone.

Notwithstanding the fact he’s actually right to be highlighting this grooming gang scandal.
I think the difference between "attacking" a western nation and the likes of Russia or China is in the fact that we should hold "our" nations to high standards. We claim to be the enlightened ones, with both civil rights and high standard societies so things should work well.
Attacking Russia is like beating a dead horse which is also deaf and wont listen to your punches.
China is another type of beast. We know they are bad, we should be doing more in putting political pressure on them but they have power over us - they make almost everything we use.
 

Boss Mog

Member
Seems he was encouraging people to bomb mosques and other terrorist activity. Also a proper neo-Nazi. RadioGenoa distorts the truth a lot to push their agenda.
I knew he had encouraged people to riot after the stabbings of children there, which got people's blood boiling and rightfully so, especially after all the media lies and downplay. Didn't know he was a neo nazi or anything else about him really. But still, no matter how bad his words are and how much you disagree with them, he should have the right to say them if free speech exists, and at the end of the day saying words, no matter how bad, to me is nowhere in the same universe as rape and torture of children, so if he gets 7 years, the rapists should get 7000 years.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
I knew he had encouraged people to riot after the stabbings of children there, which got people's blood boiling and rightfully so, especially after all the media lies and downplay. Didn't know he was a neo nazi or anything else about him really. But still, no matter how bad his words are and how much you disagree with them, he should have the right to say them if free speech exists, and at the end of the day saying words, no matter how bad, to me is nowhere in the same universe as rape and torture of children, so if he gets 7 years, the rapists should get 7000 years.
Some of his messages:

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Probably not the guy to go to bat for.
 

FunkMiller

Banned
I think the difference between "attacking" a western nation and the likes of Russia or China is in the fact that we should hold "our" nations to high standards. We claim to be the enlightened ones, with both civil rights and high standard societies so things should work well.
Attacking Russia is like beating a dead horse which is also deaf and wont listen to your punches.
China is another type of beast. We know they are bad, we should be doing more in putting political pressure on them but they have power over us - they make almost everything we use.

Musk has an agenda, and that agenda does not include annoying China by highlighting its own grotesque policies, failings and crimes, because it will hit him in the pocket. And by proxy he won't say anything bad about Russia either. He absolutely stinks of hypocrisy. Nothing about his contribution to this specific scandal changes that.
 
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EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Prosecute the rape gangs? No, how about struggle sessions over who you follow on Twitter.




Today, the Royal College of Speech and Language Therapists (@RCSLT) published a 5-month long investigation into the fact that its CEO was ‘following’ Tommy Robinson on X.

You read that correctly.

Not that he praised Tommy Robinson. Not that he amplified or re-posted Tommy Robinson. But that he was ‘following’ Tommy Robinson, from his own personal X account.

A sub-committee was established with a barrister appointed to investigate, in order to reflect the “gravity of the situation”.

Even more ludicrous, the investigation found that “on the balance of probabilities it was deemed that this was an accidental follow”.

The outcome? The CEO has been forced to issue a “personal apology for his actions”. In this apology, he has apologised for the “hurt, distress, fear and anger that this caused”.
 

FunkMiller

Banned
Prosecute the rape gangs? No, how about struggle sessions over who you follow on Twitter.

Today, the Royal College of Speech and Language Therapists (@RCSLT) published a 5-month long investigation into the fact that its CEO was ‘following’ Tommy Robinson on X.

You read that correctly.

Not that he praised Tommy Robinson. Not that he amplified or re-posted Tommy Robinson. But that he was ‘following’ Tommy Robinson, from his own personal X account.

A sub-committee was established with a barrister appointed to investigate, in order to reflect the “gravity of the situation”.

Even more ludicrous, the investigation found that “on the balance of probabilities it was deemed that this was an accidental follow”.

The outcome? The CEO has been forced to issue a “personal apology for his actions”. In this apology, he has apologised for the “hurt, distress, fear and anger that this caused”.

Vastly cut back funding over fifteen years + ideological purity bullshit = justice system in the shit.

This is why this mess is the fault of all political parties in the UK. Not enough people to do the job, and those that are left are doing this asinine shit.
 
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Let me get this straight. The UK police will arrest you if you say mean words on social media...but will literally turn a blind eye to the sexual assault of underage girls and will most likely arrest THEM!?!?

Edit: All in the name of fucking DEI and "not to be labelled as racist" as well? Someone call V for Vendetta PLEASE.


world louis GIF
 
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Jinzo Prime

Member
Prosecute the rape gangs? No, how about struggle sessions over who you follow on Twitter.




Today, the Royal College of Speech and Language Therapists (@RCSLT) published a 5-month long investigation into the fact that its CEO was ‘following’ Tommy Robinson on X.

You read that correctly.

Not that he praised Tommy Robinson. Not that he amplified or re-posted Tommy Robinson. But that he was ‘following’ Tommy Robinson, from his own personal X account.

A sub-committee was established with a barrister appointed to investigate, in order to reflect the “gravity of the situation”.

Even more ludicrous, the investigation found that “on the balance of probabilities it was deemed that this was an accidental follow”.

The outcome? The CEO has been forced to issue a “personal apology for his actions”. In this apology, he has apologised for the “hurt, distress, fear and anger that this caused”.

Do Brits need asylum? I'm legitimately asking, because I know there's sane, rational people still living there who might want out.
 

Neff

Member
This is exactly why nothing will really come out from all this.
It's getting attention but like before. It will blow over and the public will move on.

I'm not so sure. It keeps happening and Starmer keeps waving it aside like it's beneath him, or more likely, like he has something to hide. And he comes down on dissenters like a ton of bricks. And people bite their tongues and just get angrier.

Labour has basically been shitting the bed ever since they got in and now this. Either Labour starts treating Brits like human beings or shit's going to kick off. I dearly hope it's the former.
 
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