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United Airlines violently drags a doctor off a plane so employee could take his seat

Why do you fly United?

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Hero Prinny

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Mimosa97 said:
Please start quoting this comment from reddit everytime someone in this thread says that United did nothing wrong and that the victim should have complied and left the plane. Thank you .
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I'd like to think no one here at least would think united was in the right in kicking that man off the plane.
 
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FinaruDensetsu

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Mimosa97 said:
Please start quoting this comment from reddit everytime someone in this thread says that United did nothing wrong and that the victim should have complied and left the plane. Thank you .
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Those points have all been brought up in this long thread already, but that's a good encapsulation of what others and I have been saying. Not that it matters, but I'm a lawyer too, specializing in contracts and civil lit.

I think by this point United surely knows that this is a case that would survive summary judgment. So one of the tactics they're using now is character assassination outside of court to try to discourage the man from ever even trying.
 
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Lesath

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whatsinaname said:
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Hey Twitter, I understand how you think that digging into the past of a victim that has no actual relevance into the incident at hand may look one-sided, but it's not.

By covering this irrelevant side of the story that tries to undermine any empathy for the victim, we're not defending United in any way. We'll continue to address their role in this situation with whatever time we have left after we drum up "controversy".

Having said that, let's talk about the real victim here - me.
 
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rambis

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Mimosa97 said:
Please start quoting this comment from reddit everytime someone in this thread says that United did nothing wrong and that the victim should have complied and left the plane. Thank you .
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Im glad he/she breaks it down but this all seems painfully obvious to anyone who's flown more than a couple of times. United are fucked ten ways til Tuesday and have somehow made the situation worse.
 
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Flo_Evans

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Mimosa97 said:
Please start quoting this comment from reddit everytime someone in this thread says that United did nothing wrong and that the victim should have complied and left the plane. Thank you .
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I don't actually think this has been settled either way. Pretty sure that is why the airline is going with "disruptive passenger".
 
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Hero Prinny

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Lesath said:
Hey Twitter, I understand how you think that digging into the past of a victim that has no actual relevance into the incident at hand may look one-sided, but it's not.

By covering this irrelevant side of the story that tries to undermine any empathy for the victim, we're not defending United in any way. We'll continue to address their role in this situation with whatever time we have left after we drum up "controversy".

Having said that, let's talk about the real victim here - me.
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pretty much
 
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Mimosa97

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Hero Prinny said:
I'd like to think no one here at least would think united was in the right in kicking that man off the plane.
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Well sorry to inform you that we had plenty of people ITT saying that United did nothing wrong and that the guy should have complied, that the law is the law is the law is the law,
that it's their plane/private property/muuuh freedom/murica etc... etc...

I know it's hard to believe but it's true lol


FinaruDensetsu said:
Those points have all been brought up in this long thread already, but that's a good encapsulation of what others and I have been saying. Not that it matters, but I'm a lawyer too, specializing in contracts and civil lit.
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I know but it's a pretty good summary right ? I'm not a lawyer. Heck I'm not even american. But I saw a lot of people on reddit saying that it was a solid post so I'll have to trust them I guess.
 
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SuperStiltzkin

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She thinks there's​ some fucking Usual Suspects twist to find where the doctor was evil all along and everyone else is gonna look stupid for defending him and going after United.
 
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Eidan

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ebullientprism said:
Tweet deleted and she is already rolling with the "covering all sides of this" excuse.

Fucking pathetic.
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Truly pathetic. I think she should start by asking "What does it have to do with the events that occurred on the plane?"

If the answer is "Fuck all", she should then be asking what she hopes to illuminate.
 
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DrROBschiz

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Is she being paid off by United to do this?


Seems shady as fuck to basically DOX a victim searching for some explanation as to to "why wouldnt you just take the money and get off, you must be a bad person"

Why dont we just take compensation from corporate overlords like good boys and girls? Welp must have a criminal past cuz we all know criminals hate money and compensation
 
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SuperStiltzkin

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Eidan said:
Truly pathetic. I think she should start by asking "What does it have to do with the events that occurred on the plane?"

If the answer is "Fuck all", she should then be asking what she hopes to illuminate.
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Well you see, it was all clearly a ploy so he could extort more money from United to fund his rampant drug addiction.
 
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Flying Toaster

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DrROBschiz said:
yeah dragging up his past to paint him in a less empathetic light is dirty as fuck

what the fucking hell
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I think he should be investigated. News organizations have a job to investigate all parties and all things.

Advertising that there is dirt, showing that the victim in this situation has had issues in the past, posting pictures and announcing these things is wrong and unprofessional even ethically questionable. It is a news organization's job to investigate not to publicize or scandalize the situation. The issue I have is that MSNBC and this woman and now other sites are running with this man's past that has absolutely nothing to do with this situation in any way. His past is a non issue in this current issue which is about United Airlines, the Airport security detail that removed the man and the situation which created this current news headline.
 
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Vilam

Maxis Redwood
Nice to see United doubled down on acting like complete fucking scumbags. Who the fuck cares what this guys past is? What does it have to do with anything involving this incident? It's disgusting that this guy is having his life history spread for everyone to see because United decided it was ok to get the police to assault a paying customer because their own employees just had to catch a ride. Completely gross corporate behavior.
 
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FinaruDensetsu

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Mimosa97 said:
I know but it's a pretty good summary right ? I'm not a lawyer. Heck I'm not even american. But I saw a lot of people on reddit saying that it was a solid post so I'll have to trust them I guess.
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Yup like I said it's a good encapsulation. I don't expect people to read through 2000+ posts anyway.
 
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jungomitis

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I'm really curious what will actually come out at 4PM.
Will it be good investigative journalism?

Naw, it'd probably be just victim-smearing.
 
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DrROBschiz

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Flying Toaster said:
I think he should be investigated. News organizations have a job to investigate all parties and all things.

Advertising that there is dirt, showing that the victim in this situation has had issues in the past, posting pictures and announcing these things is wrong and unprofessional even ethically questionable. It is a news organization's job to investigate not to publicize or scandalize the situation. The issue I have is that MSNBC and this woman and now other sites are running with this man's past that has absolutely nothing to do with this situation in any way. His past is a non issue in this current issue which is about United Airlines, the Airport security detail that removed the man and the situation which created this current news headline.
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Why should he be... investigated? I dont follow

If he had a prior CONVICTION then clearly that was settled already in court? It has absolutely nothing to do with the story or his decision not to take the compensation
 
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FinaruDensetsu

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jungomitis said:
I'm really curious what will actually come out at 4PM.
Will it be good investigative journalism?

Naw, it'd probably be just victim-smearing.
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There's literally no scenario here where anything relating to his past will amount to "good investigative journalism".

The victim's credibility is not at issue. There was an entire cabin full of witnesses, plus multiple video recordings from multiple angles. Even if he did/dealt drugs whatever, in the past, United's removal of him had nothing to do with drug use.

Even if let's say his gambling had gotten him into a HUGE amount of debt and in his mind he was thinking, "oh if I refuse my seat, maybe I can get a big payout", that would still have nothing to do with this because he was well within his right to refuse to leave and had a right not to have his head bashed in.

Literally zero possibility.
 
Flying Toaster

Flying Toaster

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DrROBschiz said:
Why should he be... investigated? I dont follow

If he had a prior CONVICTION then clearly that was settled already in court? It has absolutely nothing to do with the story or his decision not to take the compensation
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All parties in a situation that blows up publicly like this should be looked at.

Should said parties past be brought up while investigating said parties? No. But it would be wrong to not look into who the victim was. A basic search of said victim would bring up any issues in the past and that would have come out. Should said information that the news organization found be actually written or televised about? Only if it was pertinent to the current situation and in this case it was not so they should have let it be and not publicly said anything about what they found.
 
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kmax

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whatsinaname said:
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"Both sidez! I promize!!"

Sure, lady. That's really being reflected in the original tweet, right there.

It reminds me of that Courier-Journal article that got absolutely trashed for being a victim blaming piece of shit article that it was, so the "journalist" had to start giving the article more substance after the fact. Nice to see that the comments are having nothing of it.
 
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jungomitis

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FinaruDensetsu said:
There's literally no scenario here where anything relating to his past will amount to "good investigative journalism".

The victim's credibility is not at issue. There was an entire cabin full of witnesses, plus multiple video recordings from multiple angles. Even if he did/dealt drugs whatever, in the past, United's removal of him had nothing to do with drug use.

Even if let's say his gambling had gotten him into a HUGE amount of debt and in his mind he was thinking, "oh if I refuse my seat, maybe I can get a big payout", that would still have nothing to do with this because he was well within his right to refuse to leave.

Literally zero possibility.
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Haha I know. I'm just trolling ABC.
 
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