United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love

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I remember that Ohio meme (welcome to Ohio), but it's looking better for Hillary than places like Indiana, Kentucky and West Virginia.

Sorry, just to clarify I'm not from the US. I dont know if it's red or blue state.

Ohio is a battleground state. West Virginia used to lean to the left but is now a red state (correct me if wrong). Kentucky and Indiana also traditionally vote republican.
 
I'm curious about Ohio and NC. Once they've declared I'm heading off to sleep.

To the yanks, when can we expect those two to be called?
NC is going to be a long time, I think. There's been reports of issues with the voting machines, not sure how accurate those reports are though but if it doesn't go Trump's way, he'll have to make an issue of it or it pretty much is game over for him.
 
Honest question for people.

Are people literally excited about Hilary bring president.

Or is it JUST that you want NOTHING to do with trump being president.

So basically defaulting to wanting hilary to win, curious.

Both, genuinely.

Hillary is one of the smartest people to ever run for president. She's also gotten a huge amount of unfair criticism her entire career for being that smart, being a woman, and even being married to Bill. Things that aren't even her fault at times have been "Hillary mistakes" in terms of how much weight they are given relative to other politicians, and the times where she has genuinely failed or made mistakes are magnified to a ridiculous level where she is held to standards even her husband was not.

On the other hand, Trump is genuinely the worst agent to ever run for the presidency. This is a man that means to rule and not lead; he wants to get into power so that he can begin to change the power structure that prevents us from having rulers instead of leaders. The actions he's taken in this campaign are very reminiscent of every other demagogue who means to destroy with the power they are trying to steal. The man is everything we shouldn't want to be as individuals, and as a country.

For me, listening to ignorant fools talk about how "both sides are just as bad" in the face of these two particular candidates makes me worry about our future. This is a nation that apparently cannot see the threat of a demagogue even at his loudest and most dangerous. There will almost certainly be even more following in his footsteps now that the world can see how naive our country has become.
 
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