United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love

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My fiance invited me to this massive Facebook group, Pantsuit Nation. I joined and it's just flooding my Facebook feed with their posts, but I'm ok with it. It's nice seeing everyone so excited and happy about their votes. There are a lot of women posting/talking about their mothers who lived through times when they couldn't vote, etc. Some LGBT posts and minorities, too. Overall it just feels nice and positive. Brings a tear to my eye. I literally can't imagine a similar group or vibe for the other side.
 
FelixOrion said:
The deed is done.

+1 Hillary
+1 Wik against Fortenberry (House)
+1 to kill the death penalty in Nebraska
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The wording on the death penalty boggles my mind. Vote retain to repeal the death penalty. I have a feeling this will confuse a lot of voters. My ballot will look exactly like yours. Hoping Omaha goes blue, but there's no way district 1 goes blue.
 
Toxi said:
Votecastr is garbage. Ignore it and wait for the official calls.
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Bugger. Thanks for the heads up as I was F5'ing the site pretty religiously until now hoping for it to be at least semi-accurate.
 
Anarky said:
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I'm literally crying from laughter right now
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Sucks I'll be at work tonight, where my phone has little to no signal. But at least they have satellite at the home, I can watch CNN or MSNBC or something.
 
jfkgoblue said:
Yes it is, MANY people who voted Drumpf find him an offensive, awful man. They felt that they had no other choice because:

They see Hillary Clinton as the epitome of corrupt career politician.

They are ardently Pro-Life which makes any Democratic candidate an absolute non-starter.

They don't agree with more liberal economic policies.

There are many situations that could cause someone vote for Drumpf besides simply be racist. Are many of them racist? Yeah, but not the majority.

This is the correct answer, you can find voting for Drumpf to not be ok as a liberal, but you have to realize that many of his voters are holding their nose while filling in that bubble.
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The majority of them absolutely are, and the rest are still okay with minorites getting their rights taken away and their lifes fucked. They are still supporting a completely bigoted racist platform. I don't give a shit if 5 of the Trump supporters are not racist. They're still just as bad.
 
Ever since staying awake all night (maybe due to shock) during the Brexit results, I have been dreading today in the US. I know both are very different things, but I fully believe (dread) that this election will be closer than most think it will be.

There are too many people you dont know or care about making terrible decisions that will have long lasting effects for you. Many more people than you think will vote against what you believe to be the correct decision. Far too many people will find a stupid reason not to vote (even though they would have voted alongside you if they did). Many won't realise the mistake until a day too late.

Hopefully the scales dont tip too far in that direction on this day, and end up falling over into a trash pile in the next 12 hours.
 
jfkgoblue said:
Yes it is, MANY people who voted Trump find him an offensive, awful man. They felt that they had no other choice because:

They see Hillary Clinton as the epitome of corrupt career politician.

They are ardently Pro-Life which makes any Democratic candidate an absolute non-starter.

They don't agree with more liberal economic policies.

There are many situations that could cause someone vote for Trump besides simply be racist. Are many of them racist? Yeah, but not the majority.

This is the correct answer, you can find voting for Trump to not be ok as a liberal, but you have to realize that many of his voters are holding their nose while filling in that bubble.
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If "pro-life", which is like not even an issue anymore, is more important to them than basic decency for all Americans of all genders and races and religions, then yes, they are deplorable and fuck'em. If they are "not racist" but have no problem casting a vote for someone who is racist, and knowingly enabling and empowering a platform that will make life harder for minorities, then again, yes they are deplorable and fuck'em.

I see no distinction in the examples you've given. Anybody who wants to be able to vote for the racist bigot but not be seen as a racist bigot themselves can fuck off.
 
Titanoboa said:
Electing a blatant racist into the highest office is being okay with racism. That's as bad as being a racist if not worse.
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If someone views abortion as murder, that is almost impossible to overcome.

I am done arguing this, you guys are obviously not gonna change your mind and this conversation is a ban waiting to happen.
Ninja Scooter said:
If "pro-life", which is like not even an issue anymore, is more important to them than basic decency for all Americans of all genders and races and religions, then yes, they are deplorable and fuck'em. If they are "not racist" but have no problem casting a vote for someone who is racist, and knowingly enabling and empowering a platform that will make life harder for minorities, then again, yes they are deplorable and fuck'em.
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Ok I'll bite how is prolife not an issue anymore?
 
Beefy said:
@piersmorgan

Trump can still win this.
Many swing states way too close to call.
Clinton-ites seem weirdly cocky/complacent on here. #USElection2016

Sorry US Gaf :(
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I read that as "beware! Trump can still win if Clinton supporters continue being complacent" rather than a "let's go trump" tweet. But I could be wrong.

With his staunch stance for gun control in America why would he vote for the orange turd?
 
Feep said:
It affects the national popular vote outcome, which is a reasonably proxy for margin of victory. The state by state math is too complex. A double digit victory signifies landslide.

And it really isn't reasonable at all. As others have said, he did it to make himself feel good. That's it. Absolutely pointless.
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It does affect the national popular vote, but it still doesn't directly effect who becomes president. Whether or not it's a proxy for margin of victory is irrelevant.

At the end of the day, I want people to vote FOR someone, and I want them to vote strategically, if possible. His vote did both, and I can't fault someone for doing that.

Everyone votes to make themselves feel good. It makes no sense to single out one person for that.

There was a point, which he laid out pretty clearly. Third parties also qualify for federal funding if they get a particular amount of votes as well. That is also a goal for some.

As a general principle, I want to encourage people to vote, even if it means they don't vote the way I would prefer. I don't think disparaging someone for doing so is a good idea.
 
Just did my part (PA). In and out in under 5 min. Dems across the board...Hillary's not my #1 choice, but Dump made it hilariously easy to vote for her. Now just crossing my fingers that today won't end in embarrassment for the country....
 
If you are voting for trump or support him you are AT best, AT best saying you are ok with sexual assault, racism, and general dishonesty.

Don't get mad when folks judge you for the things you stand for.

Fuck Piers Morgan, send him to the Phantom Zone
 
Took the day off and went to vote mid-morning. Thought that may avoid long lines of pre and post work rushes. Apparently not. Took an hour and a half.

Anyway, vote in for Hillary here in Missouri. If polls are right, she has no chance here, but I'm hoping for a surprise.

Just as importantly, voted Jason Kander for Senate. Real chance we can turn that seat blue. They've been brutal on Blunt in ads here. Painting him (rightfully) as a bought and sold politician.

Also voted Koster for governor. The Republican nominee here is a joke. No political experience whatsoever. Former Navy Seal running on the line of "Conservative. Outsider. Navy Seal". That's literally his pitch. Our democrat governor has been the only check against overwhelmingly Republican state Congress here.
 
Beefy said:
@piersmorgan

Trump can still win this.
Many swing states way too close to call.
Clinton-ites seem weirdly cocky/complacent on here. #USElection2016

Sorry US Gaf :(
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like picking up a used condom off the street

I mean damn don't bring it over to us and apologize, just leave that shit where you found it
 
Went and voted during lunch. Must have caught a down period because the line was really short. I did my part to make sure Adolf Hitler: Orange Crush Edition doesn't get elected!

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Alex_Mexico said:
I read that as "beware! Trump can still win if Clinton supporters continue being complacent" rather than a "let's go trump" tweet. But I could be wrong.

With his staunch stance for gun control in America why would he vote for the orange turd?
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You're forgetting the part about Piers Morgan being an odious scrote.
 
Alex_Mexico said:
I read that as "beware! Trump can still win if Clinton supporters continue being complacent" rather than a "let's go trump" tweet. But I could be wrong.

With his staunch stance for gun control in America why would he vote for the orange turd?
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He is also very anti-immigrant.
 
Titanoboa said:
Electing a blatant racist into the highest office is being okay with racism. That's as bad as being a racist if not worse.
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I generally respect anyone's right to vote for who they see fit, but I have 0 respect for any human being that would vote for that vile human being known as Trump.
 
TheSchwab_7 said:
The wording on the death penalty boggles my mind. Vote retain to repeal the death penalty. I have a feeling this will confuse a lot of voters. My ballot will look exactly like yours. Hoping Omaha goes blue, but there's no way district 1 goes blue.
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I agree thought it would too, but it was spelled out well in text next to the bubbles.
 
Today started off great with my girlfriend's sister saying she can't see her niece anymore due to us voting for Hillary.
 
Slayven said:
If you are voting for trump or support him you are AT best, AT best saying you are ok with sexual assault, racism, and general dishonesty.

Don't get mad when folks judge you for the things you stand for.
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According to my dad most guys talk like that, everyone is racist is one way or another, and Hillary's lie about her emails is worse than Trump's lies about anything. If I didn't depend on him so much right now, I'd call him out, but for now all I can do is shrug and go "uh huh".
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...gracious-to-donald-trump-the-rest-of-us-dont/

wapo said:
If Hillary Clinton wins, at some point tonight she’ll deliver a victory in which she’ll speak the words “Donald Trump” or “my opponent,” quiet the brief eruption of boos, then read the words she and her aides have carefully crafted for that moment. She will be gracious and kind, congratulating him on running a spirited and improbable campaign, and asking for his help and the help of all his voters to move the country toward our shared goals of peace and prosperity.

Like the loser’s good wishes to the victor, this is an important part of the election night ritual, because it gives order to the process and reminds us that whatever venom might have passed between the two sides, it was all part of a rational system to which we share a commitment. If the winner was anything less than magnanimous, it would strike us as not just crass but a violation of the rules of the process.

So Clinton will be kind to Trump, because at this stage it’s the right thing to do and because she has little choice. The rest of us have no such obligation.

No, what is required of us now and in the future is just the opposite. If Trump loses, we must ensure that his name and the presidential campaign he ran echo through American history as a dark and distressing tale, a case study in the power of hate, our vulnerability to demagoguery, and the limitations of democracy itself....

Donald Trump must be understood, not only by us but also by our children and every subsequent generation, as one of the great villains of our age. He appealed directly to the worst people, and to the worst in people. He was an apostle of hatred, resentment, and fear. He told his supporters to nurture all the ugliness in their hearts, then put it proudly on display for all to see. He treated our democracy like it was one of the gold-plated toilets in the vulgar temples he builds as monuments to his own twisted ego.

So we must give him what he so richly deserves. The name Trump should from this day forward be synonymous with everything we teach our children not to become, everything we argue against and condemn and despise, everything we want to eradicate in American public life. If we make that happen, then we will have begun to make up for the national shame we should feel for letting this malignant pustule of a human being get so close to becoming the most powerful person on earth. It may not be enough to redeem this awful campaign, but it’ll be a start.
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Worth remembering!
 
Please someone help me debunk this video an acquaintence keeps shoving down my throat called "Hillary's Bullies". The footage shows a montage of Hillary supporters apparently hurting or attacking Trump supporters. The first alarm that goes off is it's by project Veritas, but the footage itself is taken from The Guardian, GMA, and other news organizations.
 
Sephzilla said:
Went and voted during lunch. Must have caught a down period because the line was really short. I did my part to make sure Adolf Hitler: Orange Crush Edition doesn't get elected!
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The only thing I'm going to miss about Trump is the awesome nick names he's earned over the past year.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
If "pro-life", which is like not even an issue anymore, is more important to them than basic decency for all Americans of all genders and races and religions, then yes, they are deplorable and fuck'em. If they are "not racist" but have no problem casting a vote for someone who is racist, and knowingly enabling and empowering a platform that will make life harder for minorities, then again, yes they are deplorable and fuck'em.

I see no distinction in the examples you've given. Anybody who wants to be able to vote for the racist bigot but not be seen as a racist bigot themselves can fuck off.
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I have seen many cases where "pro-life" has kept people from going entirely against their own interest to vote for Republican candidates because they are convinced that Democrats are trying to viciously slaughter every baby in America.

The Right is so desperate to retain voters that is has resorted to spreading false information about reproductive rights and procedures. Not only has this cost elections, it has cost lives as seen with the Planned Parenthood shootings. Plus even more will die as this fearmongering causes the defunding of Planned Parenthood, preventing many women from receiving the proper treatment for a wide variety of health issues.

But "both candidates are the same" amrite?
 
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