Angelus Errare
Banned
Where's Oakland CA?
Oakland isn't nearly as bad as it's portrayed to be. Shit compared to these cities listed, Oakland is like fucking Orange County, CA.
Where's Oakland CA?
Twin Cities are alright. Everything considered.
South Minneapolis can get sketchy but not overtly.
Woo, my city is famous!
I actually haven't really gone to that part of the city, but looking at a map, I work about a half mile away, so it seems the crime is mostly localized.
Omaha, Nebraska: N. 24th St. at Ames Ave. - 76.95
Chicago is a very big and wonderful city. The places worth visiting are as safe as any metropolis.I'll make sure not to visit Illinois anytime soon.
They picked a street in new Orleans that doesn't even exist
Must be super dangerous
Chicago is a very big and wonderful city. The places worth visiting are as safe as any metropolis.
ctrl + f, "thank god"
damn relax illinois
Never would've guessed Rochester would be near the top of the list.
maryland made the list..
East St. Louis is a shithole.
Yeah Sadly Omaha is on this list at least THAT part of it.Yep, not shocked by that at all.
Doesn't look much to do anyway
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.373...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sptYZq2G4tcXbKDeBUhwIIw!2e0
I've been to East St. Louis (we have an office there) dozens of times and never been robbed.
I genuinely wonder why there is so much violence in the Midwest.
I was about to say that that is one nice looking hood. They keep their yards cleaned and their houses painted.That said, it must be mentioned that these are respectable people. Not all of the poor neighborhoods look this rough (despite being equally poor), and lots of people take great pride in the appearance of their homes. Saginaw (and Flint like it) are victims of the erosion of power of GM, Ford and Chrysler. These were cities built on the back of the auto industry. They are cities that would not have existed without them. Indeed, they would have simply been farm land or something. But the auto industries moved in, hired people at good salries by the thousands, and cities and economies grew out of nothing.
Then they left. Largely leaving the cities and underemployed people behind. Some could move to follow the auto manufacturers. Many could not. Many who stayed could not find employment paying as well and could no longer afford the homes lifestyles to which they became accustomed.
Detroit is also the way it is largely because of the dependence of the Big 3. It's a cautionary tale, to be sure, and most cities and city planners have learned it: don't put all your eggs in one package. Diversify city income and employment.
Kinda surprised about Omaha.
Oklahoma and especially Nebraska on there surprise me.
Ames St is fairly infamous. A lot of our gun violence occurs in or around there. We have a very high black homicide rateOmaha Nebraska is on there? Really? And nothing from California at all? Color me surprised.
It's where gangs at war with each other, kill each other. And in some places (Chicago) the cops let them. There's such a long history of organized crime in Chicago that the cops have accepted they don't have the man power to beat them but they can contain them. That's why the north side is saturated with cops and super nice, one of the nicest areas I've ever been to, while the south side is a warzone.
It's all the fighting game players thugging up the place!
Kinda surprised about Omaha.
These numbers should really be adjusted for gang violence.
In many violent areas you are basically fine as long as you aren't/don't live with someone involved.
Violence on civilians is simply different.
OT, but god, I love your post title.This list doesn't include violence committed by police.
Hmm... No. I can tell you that the Southside is more saturated with cops than the north. The Northside is rising in property and all sorts of crimes because all officers are on the Southside. The Southside gets foot patrol, bike patrol, regular units, special units, and VRI. Now southside is getting State Troopers patrolling, Sheriff, and 40 FBI Agents.
Overall, the city doesn't have any manpower at all. The city keeps cutting the budget and each time we are undermanned the city cuts the positions. We are supposed to be at 12,000-14,000 cops. City says 8,000 to 10,000 is fine. We are down approximately 3,500 officers and the city won't hire. The city says were are at capacity but called in the ISP, Cook County Sheriff, and FBI to patrol the streets of the southside.
But you aren't wrong about containment. VRI and Special Units are tasked with going after the gangs while regular patrol keeps them from spreading to other areas. Which is why you will see your friendly squad under a viaduct, at popular intersections, looking to see if they can stop a shooting.
Something in the water in Illonois?
My explanation comes com a long conversation with a cop about the subject. From what I understand they focus on where the south side meets the north side,not the heart of the south side.
You must be talking Milwaukee north side if you're saying it's not saturated. Cause from the Loop to Southport there are cops everywhere and I feel a thousand time more safe than In manhattan. Especially river north to Wrigley.
I moved out a year ago. But yeah once you go that far north there aren't any cops, you're right. I wouldn't call southport touristy but there's a lot of cops and it's close to Montrose. Chicago PD is weird.Loop is always going to be saturated. Can't have the tourists getting mugged! (Happening a lot along the Mile) So you will always see a lot of units around Wrigley, Loop, US Cellular, and other tourist areas around the loop/lakefront.
But north side is no longer saturated. Some geniuses in city hall (Mayor and Superintendent) decided to combine districts and send those officers to the south side. So instead of 400 officers patrolling 2 districts, now it's ~200 officers patrolling 2 districts.
And yes, area where south and north meet are also saturated with cops. But like I said previously, it's the regular patrol units. All the units from the north were moved to make a type of wall that prevents crime from moving north and sent further south too. But the South and West sides are even more saturated than that. Problem is that the north and that wall are losing officers daily due to retirements, quitting, suicide, and injury. City is not replacing them.
Remember what happened at Montrose Beach a month or so ago? No units in the North Side to help the officers getting bottles and cans of beer thrown at them. Units had to come from other stretched thin districts.
Just checked out East St. Louis on Streetview. Yup, it's quite the shithole. I would feel like my life is in danger if I ever had to fill up at a gas station over there.
I moved out a year ago. But yeah once you go that far north there aren't any cops, you're right. I wouldn't call southport touristy but there's a lot of cops and it's close to Montrose. Chicago PD is weird.
No Los Angeles? I remember being warned not to go out at night when I was there for E3 in 2006. It was an area a few blocks from the Staples Center too, kind of surprising.
Unsurprisingly, one of the best BBQ joints I Have eaten at is 3 blocks from one of the addresses on the list. I went once after dark and felt pretty damn paranoid about people staring at my car...
Just checked out East St. Louis on Streetview. Yup, it's quite the shithole. I would feel like my life is in danger if I ever had to fill up at a gas station over there.