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Now he gets to meet the Drowned God.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 7 - Sundays on HBO
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Now he gets to meet the Drowned God.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
By drowned god, I assume you mean:
No no no. That's The Rower. The new god of the Eight. (Formerly Seven)
Giving new meaning to making the eight?
Oldest Snake
Member
Beric is dead at this point in the books. He died to bring Catelyn back.
Whoops.
Was*
Catelyn doesn't seem to have that problem though, seems to remember just fine who she wants to kill.
Catelyn pretty much only remembers who she want's to kill though. Not that we've had a lot of contact with her in the books as of yet, but it very much seems like she's not really the same person. Thought it was a long time ago I read the books, could be my mind playing tricks.
Yeah, you're right. She basically remembers one thing really well, and that sets her into full on vengeance mode. Not giving two shits about anything else. Without Brienne promising to bring Jaime to her, she would've been hung needlessly.
Oldest Snake
Member
You're right. Beric remembers that he held a castle and was to be wed, but he doesn't remember where that castle is or who it was he was supposed to marry. I don't think Stoneheart's memory loss is anywhere as extreme as Beric's, though she does seem to have lost some perspective on why she's doing what she's doing and I'd imagine that with another 4 or 5 deaths/revivals (Beric had been brought back 6 times before a final seventh, I think) she'd only get worse.
I think for Catelyn's resurrection, it's not just about how many revivals there's been. Catelyn was also dead for much longer before being revived, which could potentially also effect the state of "unCatelyn".
John Dunbar
correct about everything
not pc to out someone like that. jon didn't choose to be a zombie.
I just realized Sapochnik isn't directing any episode this season?Any words on s8?
Rumors say that he will return in S8 and he will direct the last four episodes. Nothing official.
I don't understand because they assigned two battle scenes (I suppose the Casterly rock battle will be in the next episode) to Mark Mylod. Worst director of the show.
neurosisxeno
Member
I just realized Sapochnik isn't directing any episode this season?
I was PISSED when they announced that. As far as I'm concerned, after the last 2 he did they should just have written him a blank check to finish the entire series. Every bit of BOTB and WIC are amazing, and they are easily 2 of my favorite episodes in the entire show.
Maybe that plays a part but their last acts when they died seem fairly straight-forward for where both went after resurrection.
Beric died in service of the king's justice. When he's revived he keeps doing the king's justice, in the name of that same king even after he died.
Catelyn's last act was murdering a man who had the brain capacity of a young child and couldn't be held responsible for what was happening. An act of vengeance against an innocent person to punish another, collective justice. And now what she's doing.
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
I just realised that Euron is played by the guy who was Batou in Ghost in the Shell. I don't think he's ever going to play a role that fans of the source material won't get mad at.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
So what did people make of the Greyscale treatment? Seems like there ought to be more too it, unless there are some yet to be seen complications.
Oldest Snake
Member
I really can't see how Jorah will be in any sort of fit condition post-treatment, Sam is basically flaying the man. Even if it's like a wart that can be removed and treated, the sheer amount of tissue that Sam would have to cut away just has to leave serious lasting damage to Jorah.
Cornballer
Member
- Promo photos from Sunday's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
Sony
Nintendo
"Peter Dinklage as Theon"
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BTW, I it's really noticeable they're moving fast. Ravens are sent across the world in a matter of minutes, real-time, distances traveled as well.
Yeah, I'm just pretending Goku exists in this universe and taught everyone how to use instant transmission. It's better that way.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
It definitely looked gruesome and painful, but it feels a bit anticlimactic.
Ahh, good point, hadn't thought about that.
I also think Jon won't be all that different when he comes back because he didn't actually die in the books(assuming he did warg into Ghost), just his body died. So his mind is still good. He may become colder and more ruthless, but I think that is because he was betrayed by his brothers, not the act of dieing.
The Artisan
Member
a whole book covering just Arya & Dany's shit? Are the storylines messed up too?
John Dunbar
correct about everything
think jorah got greyscale on his dick? it looks it goes way down.
The Artisan
Member
nah. just his torso and left arm.
Nah there is a half dozen new POV characters introduced in book 4 and 5.(off the top of my head: Cersei, Brienne, Arienne, Victarion, Asha and Quentyn)
Oh shit and JonCon, how could I forget about him.
Ocarina_117
Banned
It seemed rather risk free if done carefully.
For something set up as an incurable disease, it was cured far too easily with a readily available ointment.
No way Stannis would not have heard of the treatment given the lengths he went to when searching for a cure.
The entire point of that character was to die, what an useless character.
Veritigo_X
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Latvian Hitman
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I noted my dislike for that scene a couple days back. Cutting the stuff off with a scalpel and applying ointment does not sound to me like the kind of medically advanced treatment that could only be found in some ultra-rare tome hidden in the bowels of world's great temple of knowledge. Seems to me that such a treatment would be the first thing anyone who can count to potato would attempt...
The Artisan
Member
I should probably start reading again, then. Before I forget where I left off.
I realized though that opening scene in Thrones with Jon & Robb coaching Bran on how to shoot arrows, never happened in the fuckin book.
The first season had a few minor changes (e.g. Cersei had a legitimate son who died in the show, vs in the books, she had Jaime get an abortion witch when she got pregnant with Robert's child) but overall season 1 is very faithful to the books(as is season 2, save for the Talisa Stark bullshit the show came up with)
The Artisan
Member
huh, that shows that on the show Cersei did have a little bit of short lived affection for late king Robert...
They softened her up quite a bit in the show, also that Cersei and Robert scene that everyone loved was not in the books.
The Artisan
Member
wow, that is a big news to me. that was a good scene.
i have to say, this is one of those adaptations that do a lot of things better than the source material.
because like, having Dany be 13 years old on the show would be awful.
Sure there are a few minor changes that were a little improvement, but the big changes were all for the worst. Talisa Stark was a terrible change because it ruined Robb's character on the show and the parallel it was supposed to draw with his father for being so honorable it cost him his head. In the show he just comes off as a selfish asshole who just had to get married for "true love".
The Greyjoy changes were just awful and don't get me started on Dorne.
GRRM openly admits he felt he messed up things like character ages, sizes, distance, time etc when he first wrote the books.
He said the character ages were his biggest mistake and even tried to age them up between books 3 and 4. (And everyone actually believed him when he said that this was the cause of the delay... lol)
Yep, put me down in group that Jon won't be much different mentally due to warging into Ghost. In order to rally the kingdoms to stand together against the walkers he's going to need to be a convincing leader like he is in the show. He can do that if he's a hardhearted, merciless commander like Stoneheart or Stannis.
He's also trying to fix the crazy 8000 odd years of history with hints the maesters may have made huge chucks of it up as well isn't he? And he said he made the wall waaaay to high when he went to a monument that was around the same height ha
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
They should really just give him everything.
There are certainly theories that Quentyn isn't dead. The strongest point is that Doran doesn't seem like a stupid man but his plan to have his son marry Dany was so flawed it had no chance of working. However, if he did die, it would be subverting the trope of a prince swooping in to save the beautiful queen. He's the exact opposite of the typical prince (he's short, ugly, shy, and can't even fight) and dies like a chump.
I still think he is alive but there's a point to his journey even if he did get burnt. At least to me. But I'm part of the minority who think the last two books are excellent.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
the thing about the disappointment around the ballista is that we saw something with nearly as much force moments later in the attack on yara's fleet, whatever the hell that was. so it's not especially exciting. it should have been something bigger and weirder.
I feel like the ballista would've sold better if they didn't hype it up so much. Like, if instead of mustache-twirling about his dragonslaying plans, Qyburn had just announced that he had contracted every craftsman in the city to work on anti-dragon artillery, and then given the bolt-in-skull demo, it would've been fine. They just made you think there was something more there when there wasn't.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
how about a big fucking net and then 1000 of those things launching like a chinese repeating crossbow or
i don't know, something fun and fucking crazy, ok?
i don't know, something fun and fucking crazy, ok?