Unreleased DOOM 4 [cancelled] & DOOM 2016 Development Gameplay
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Elder Legend
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LOL. Absolutely not.
DOOM Eternal is far superior and better designed level wise and combat.
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The_hunter
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Doom eternal has a sword.
Ah yes I sure love using the super shotgun in every level for every encounter (where I destroy a gore nest and fight enemies blinking in instead of organically appearing).
I like Doom 2016 but Eternal was wayyyy better at having actual challenge and variety in the gameplay.
Doom Eternal had too many little meters to keep track of, it ruined the simplicity of the new formula that Doom 2016 introduced.
Hopefully the next inevitable sequel be more of a mix of the 2.
lukilladog
Member
I´d take that over Doom quaked.
What you just described is the exact reason D16 > Eternal. Super Shotgun 4 life. Eternal's ammo management was tedious, the game was tedious not challenging.
lostinblue
Banned
Sure and it feels more like Quake than Doom.
Doom 2016 felt to me like the RE4 of last generation. action on heels. the other one just fails at that nice pacing.
Lucifers Beard
Member
I think Doom 2016 was a decent game but it is massively overrated. I think the reason behind that is because most thought it was going to be pretty bad and it surprised people.
Doom Eternal is genuinely one of the best arena shooters ever created. Absolutely sublime.
SkylineRKR
Member
I've thought Doom 2016 was better as well. But I have to say it isn't.
Doom 2016, when I replay it, is pretty much only arena battles, and I feel some go on for a bit too long. By 75% into the campaign I kinda wanted it to end. Doom 2016 starts with imps, then pinky, and every time the tier gets higher. The game pretty much does this from beginning to end.
Doom Eternal has MUCH better pacing. Yes I do dislike its ammo system still, but the battles themselves are actually far shorter and more variation is thrown in. What makes it look like more are the ammo fodder goons, but they're harmless. Once Doom Eternal clicked, It was absolutely insane, it was like playing DMC. You'd be air dashing, grappling, switching weapons, using secondaries etc on the fly. I can see why the ammo management is there, since 2016 would be super shotgun all day, but I still could do with a little higher ammo cap.
Play Eternal on Normal if needed, as Hard is far more brutal than it was on 2016. At least until you mastered its mechanics and know your enemies. I could see people changing their opinion on it. And 120hz is godlike.
Doom 2016, when I replay it, is pretty much only arena battles, and I feel some go on for a bit too long. By 75% into the campaign I kinda wanted it to end. Doom 2016 starts with imps, then pinky, and every time the tier gets higher. The game pretty much does this from beginning to end.
Doom Eternal has MUCH better pacing. Yes I do dislike its ammo system still, but the battles themselves are actually far shorter and more variation is thrown in. What makes it look like more are the ammo fodder goons, but they're harmless. Once Doom Eternal clicked, It was absolutely insane, it was like playing DMC. You'd be air dashing, grappling, switching weapons, using secondaries etc on the fly. I can see why the ammo management is there, since 2016 would be super shotgun all day, but I still could do with a little higher ammo cap.
Play Eternal on Normal if needed, as Hard is far more brutal than it was on 2016. At least until you mastered its mechanics and know your enemies. I could see people changing their opinion on it. And 120hz is godlike.
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IbizaPocholo
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Northeastmonk
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Cool idea. It almost feels like 2016 got the Diablo 3 look while they wanted to make something more like Diablo 4. The darker, grittier look versus the bright red tones. Kinda gives me that Quake 4 vibe.
New DOOM is good, but it's not nearly as re-playable as Classic DOOM. I feel like it's a good interpretation of what modern DOOM is. Eternal felt like they tacked on a lot, but it's not something I'd play over and over again. It was good game to finish.
New DOOM is good, but it's not nearly as re-playable as Classic DOOM. I feel like it's a good interpretation of what modern DOOM is. Eternal felt like they tacked on a lot, but it's not something I'd play over and over again. It was good game to finish.
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Dr. Claus
Banned
Both are great games, but Eternal is objectively better in terms of SP content. Stronger arenas, better utilization of weapons and enemies, increased challenge, absolutely brimming with fanservice. The only way you can genuinely think 2016 is better is if you sucked at Eternal and could't do the literal 4 minutes of platforming across a 12 hour game.
Doom Shouldnt be an Arena shooter.
I hated the cool toned color pallete of many eternal levels. Just doesnt match Doom feel. Snow...really?
rofif
Banned
Yes. Agreed. Simplicity over chaos.
Hobbygaming
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The canceled version of Doom 2016 had way better contextual finishers than what we got
Balducci30
Member
Doom eternal is the best fps I've played in 10 years
Dr. Claus
Banned
That is... a very good point. It was a tad colourful.
Doom has always been an arena shooter.
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Arena to me = locked down area till you kill "waves" of respawning enemies. Or somerhing akin to Quake 3's sport focused level design.
No respawning, no waves, no lock down, no arena.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I felt like Eternal's arenas felt more organic, like I was progressing through the level instead of getting locked down in a room time after time like if I was playing Smash TV or something.
And yeah Eternal is miles above 2016, it's haters just got filtered.
And yeah Eternal is miles above 2016, it's haters just got filtered.