Don't worry,they can then start remaking the remasters.
Zero Dawn remaster looks like it has more work put into it and has an upgrade path. Bizarre pricing here.
???????? I can always trust you guys to come up with the silliest ideas that no one else could ever think of, lol.
Nah, this has had more work as its a switch of engine, however, some scenes/shots I have seen look better in the original, may be an artistic choice but thats my opinion (Decima was a beast even back then)
We're heading for the Super Ultra Enchanted Turbo Special Edition, aren't we?
My original post was Christmas period. Not fucking March.
Fucking August is Christmas period?
Was there a major AAA exclusive from Sony after that for Christmas? No. Then stfu.
And I can always trust you guys to come to the defense of any criticism atributed to Sony.
Tearaway Unfolded.
Neither was Until Dawn, really. Not like this particular (and rather pointless) attribute decreased the quality in either game.
I just told you that there's no such thing as 'remake of a remaster'.
Arguing over semantics now? Really?
And I can always trust you guys to come to the defense of any criticism atributed to Sony.
I played all 3 versions of The Last of Us at each of their launches and yes I prefer the Remake but let's not act like it's some world apart difference here when all 3 games are built literally on the same template, there's no gameplay changes,story or cutscene changes like with let's say Resident Evil 4.
It's the exact same thing with a new coat of paint on 3 separate releases over an 8 year timeframe:
It's overkill no matter how you look at it,the criticism is well justified when you don't look at it with rose tinted glasses.
I agree with you in that regard,the PC version was clearly the main reason for doing the Remake. I personally never had an issue with the Remastered version on PS5 as it worked flawlessly in 60fps at high resolution. Ofc the Remake looks better but yeah my point was in regards to Sony taking advantage of the remake and remaster process of their games which TLOU is a bit of a posterchild for Remaking games too soon,even if they had their valid reasons for it as you explained.
Stupid in what sense, though? In terms of sales? In terms of production workforce being used?
You really think Tearaway Unfolded was a marquee game for people to buy a ps4 at Christmas, over something like until dawn.
Neither game was, that's exactly what I implied.
It's stupid in the sense that it oversaturates the IP in a short timeframe. In 10 years we've gotten 2 TLOU games,2 remasters of the same game and 1 remake. Same thing is happening with Horizon right now. I get that it doesn't take much resources to do these ports but it still rubs me the wrong way that the rereleases are so frequent in a short time frame.
While I agree with you about these remasters being used to get new team members up to speed with the tools and hardware and that is very much true in alot of cases,I think you're a bit wrong about people being mad that it takes manpower away from new games,some might believe that sure,but for many,myself included it's just a constant dissapointment that they choose relatively new franchises instead of something that would deserve it more,say a Bloodborne remaster or a Killzone 2 remake or Infamous 1 or 2 Remake or a God of War 1 remake etc.
I feel sorry because I believe this might be the second time today that I come in "defense" of some PlayStation stuff from you.. but, The Last of Us is a PS3 game.
And thank God there aren't.
And that is one screenshot (of a pre-rendered scene). You could have posted these instead:It's the exact same thing with a new coat of paint on 3 separate releases over an 8 year timeframe:
Eh, oversaturation to the point in which demand and general interest for the series starts to decrease each and each title? I really doubt your average non-hardcore game notices (or cares about) this, at all. Horizon may have more ground for this argument, but NOT in the re-release talking point; HZD is getting a remaster about 8 years after the original release, not so different from TLOU PS3 > TLOU PS5.
Yeah, but I don't think you can't really complain about coats of paint if you personally want them as well. I would love a Gravity Rush remake for example (PS Vita game that was remastered on PS4, same console gen, btw), not sure how reasonable would it be for me to hate on TLOU Part 1.
Ok, didn't mean it to you, but it's exactly how I would describe the current sentiment in social media.
I literally said it's fine to do so, but I personally don't get the anger these re-releases provoke on people when they have been a thing for so long. Heck, we currently have it much better when we don't have to spend another $60 to being able to play TLOU on PS4.
are you still talking about The Last of Us here?
Mainly Horizon here.
I feel sorry because I believe this might be the second time today that I come in "defense" of some PlayStation stuff from you.. but, The Last of Us is a PS3 game.
I can fully understand being skeptical of remaking visuals of PS4 games like Spider-Man, Until Dawn or Horizon.. I honesly think that's borderline retarded as well.
But TLOU receiving a PS4 port a couple of months after its PS3 version doesn't change the fact it's a PS3 game. And remaking PS3 games like Demon's Souls or The Last of Us, especially when developing a PC verison out of it at the same time, isn't just something I understand, but cherish.
And thank God there aren't.
The Last of US is a perfect game just like OG RE4 is, and as someone who hated countless changes in RE4R any alteration to TLOU aside from improving visuals (while respecting artwork), improving animation blending, improving AI and providing quality of life improvements, extras and new modes like Speed Run, would only achieve pissing off hardcore fans like me.
All the more considering the serious fear many of us had in regards to Druckmann changing things in the original.
I genuinely couldn't be any more grateful my favorite game of all time received such a perfect remake. Not a botched job, not a questionable improvement with things here and there done better in the OG like basically every Remaster ever, but a faithful, tasteful visual generational overhaul from the same people who made the original, perfect in every way. Would legit pay a thousand dollars to see Drake's Fortune receiving a similar Remake.
And that is one screenshot (of a pre-rendered scene). You could have posted these instead:
And a billion others.
I simply disagree. I'm the kind of guy who spent hours once a week for 14 years on Albert Marin website providing feedback for RE4 HD Project.. I love well made visuals overhaul of my favorite games. Silent Hill 2: Enhanced Edition Update 10 is maybe tied with Astro Bot as my favorite release of 2024..
The words "Remaster" and "Remake" are meaningless, entirely fluid and interchangeable on a case-by-case basis.
Ok, let's put it this way...You said you cherished the Demon's Souls Remake,so hypothetical,let's say you had to choose between The Last of Us Remake and the Demon's Souls Remake,just hypothetical,since we did get both in the end but would you feel as strongly about getting The Last Of Us Remake when the Remastered version is completely playable on PS5 in higher res and framerate already if it meant you wouldn't get Demon's Souls because of it and it would've remained stuck on PS3 in favor of an even more graphically enhanced version(Remake) of the already available TLOU Remastered on PS5???
Where you get that most people feel its unnecessary?
Check the Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster thread and tell me the vibe in there then...lol
