Until Dawn Movie Leaves Out Game Writers in Credits - Here’s What Happened

It's not really based on the game other than sharing the name and some references. It's also quite mediocre, so there's that as well.
 
Mibu no ookami said:
I mean, I don't think she is saying she specifically worked on Until Dawn, but she simply is ignoring the rules for accrediation in hopes that her and others can get credited with transmedia and probably get paid.

I don't begrudge her entirely, but I think that she's misguided and an egotist. Writers aren't the only ones that create a game. A game is more than just its story. You're not going to put the entire credits of a game in a movie, so it makes sense to truncate it to the studio/company that made the game.

If you have a writing credit due, you'll likely get it. If they use your song in the movie, you'll probably get a credit for that as well and so on.

Why isn't she asking for the person who came up with throwing glass bottles to get credit in the last of us? I'm kidding, but it's just kind of baffling that people are seeing a potential goldmine and want credit/money. They aren't novelists who are selling their works to movie producers.
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In an office environment, the Sales dept acts the same in every company I've worked with. Hey, no doubt selling the products to buyers at Walmart or Loblaws head office takes some skill and pressure. But let's not act like youre the only important people in the whole building. At a core functional level, without the warehouse and shipping guys the company cant even load up the trucks and ship out the product.

This dept always treats other depts like shit and expects everyone else to do a top notch job making their lives easier. But when it's the other way, they dont give a shit and take their time. Or they hope if they drag it out long enough, someone else will do it for them.

They are the first dept to blame people if something messes up. But when they screw up the deal or lose listing tanking the sales, they will ALWAYS shut their mouth hoping nobody notices or they'll blame the marketing dept for bad products and pricing. But when things go great and sales shoot up because they did a good job, they'll take full credit like they are the only person who accomplished it.

It kind of sounds like media people have similar personalities as sales people. The rest of us who work in other functions always look at these people as egotistical, untrustworthy, and if you arent in the room with them when they talk to VPs they'll take all the credit.
 
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Druckmann is one of the writers and showrunners of The Last of Us TV series, not just creative director of the game.
It seems this lady knows some people hate Druckmann and just want to use that hate to attack Sony with this weird comparison.
 
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Neil Druckmann probably makes 70% more, he's one of the heads of ND, and his list of contacts puts everyone else's to shame. We would have to list the accomplishments he's made over the years.

I don't know if I'd compare myself to him. He was also on the set of TLoU the TV show during production.
 
Gamerfan81 said:
Sony cultists: Those dirty peasants should be lucky to work for a great company like Sony. It's not like those other shitty companies like MS, Nintendo, or Nvidia.
Anyways let's talk about the highway robbery of the cost of the Nvidia cards and the Switch 2.
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You calling anyone cultist is quite something.
 
As someone who's worked in the industry, in general I've no issue with being left out of the credits in such a case ("if you worked on the original game, but not the actual movie"). This has been how it always was and that is generally fine, pay me for the work I do under the contract; I don't own the rights when I do work for hire. What I DO want, is give me MORE work based on the quality I've done and the connections I've made, and then anything on top of that is a bonus. We are veering very much into fresh territory where everyone wants to feel so special for being recognized for what they were supposed to do anyway, I've seen this complained about a lot in comics twitter as well in the recent years.

Bowing to it only encourages it more. I guess if enough people whine it could change things, but I don't see that happening (or needing to)
 
Fabieter said:
I highly doubt that a special thanks would have entitled them to royalties.
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You would be surprised. There are comic book writers who got paid six figures when their special thanks showed up in the credits for Justice League - having had nothing to do with the movie.
 
Garibaldi said:
The software I was heavily involved in designing/writing/maintaining/scaling for the global company I work for, which regularly gets over 50k requests a minute and has 24/7 uptime just got 2 years without major incident. I've never gotten any credit other than a thanks, here's a new Jira ticket. Meanwhile executives barely involved win industry awards and have parties for it.

Welcome to the big boy world.
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The guy who invented USB was just an Intel employee and didn't get any kind of royalty or anything. Now it's used in billions of devices.
 
The movie is barely even related to the game.

I saw the trailer and was bitterly disappointed by this. A horror flick specifically about the Wendigo would have been amazing.
 
ArtHands said:
If the writers want to get recognized and get credited so much they shouldn't work for Sony. Its their fault
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The writers in the OP didn't work on the movie. The movie is related to the game really in name only. It's a totally different thing. And as per WGA rules, the movie producers don't need to credit the original game writers... so they didn't.

The woman in the OP is just being entitled.
 
ArtHands said:
If the writers want to get recognized and get credited so much they shouldn't work for Sony. Its their fault
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Ah....so you must have examples of other companies where those who worked on the video game were credited in the movie adaptation?
 
Garibaldi said:
The software I was heavily involved in designing/writing/maintaining/scaling for the global company I work for, which regularly gets over 50k requests a minute and has 24/7 uptime just got 2 years without major incident. I've never gotten any credit other than a thanks, here's a new Jira ticket. Meanwhile executives barely involved win industry awards and have parties for it.

Welcome to the big boy world.
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My dad has various patents and what he created sounded like it was used by telcom companies (at least back in the day, probably way outdated by now I'd guess). It was even used in the space shuttle. The company owns the patent since it was done on company time and resources. As a bonus for a job well done he said the company paid him $400.

Media people have a weird way of thinking everything they do should be royalty city forever or they need to be patted on the back for something they did decades ago. Weird people. There's always something about them that screams childish and immature like they never grew up beyond 15 years old. You can tell just by going on their social media accounts and what they say.

As for the your software example, ya. Imagine all the coders who worked on implementing a new ERP system at my company a decade a go. All you guys should get a nickel cut for every transaction that has processed since then as well as everyone's name on it! A media person would want it like this....

Purchase Order
April 28, 2025
Walmart

Toaster. 100 cases. $10,000

Bob
Steve
Sally
Al
Mohammed
Kelly
And a million other people

Each PO would be 20 pages long. And every person would want a pay out for every transaction the happens.
 
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Am I correct in saying the movie has all new characters, story, etc.? The game writers would have been credited had they used characters and scenarios from the game, but they didn't do that. Knowing Hollywood, they invented this entirely new story and set of characters in part to avoid doing that and avoid paying them. It's a different situation from TLOU for many reasons, the primary one being TLOU is directly adapted from the game like say the Lord of the Rings movies are directly adapted from the books, and Druckmann also wrote the TV show and directed episodes.

In any case with the crappy remake and crappy movie, Until Dawn is probably dead so she can take solace in that lol. Sony totally misused this brand.
 
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Where do you draw the line? Movies already have a huge amount of people working on them, same with games and everyone contributes in someway to the finished product and like everyone under contract you have no rights, all your output belongs to them, I'd suck it up
 
"iconic game"...
Awkward Keri Russell GIF by Golden Globes


But yeah, kinda sucks. Maybe is a contract thing, or maybe the team isn't consulted or whatever. Credits should be given for those who needs, so the team that created the game should have some sort of acknowledge in the credits, but I think that's it. The Sonic movie doesn't have Yuji Naka, right? Has Sonic Team thou. Comparisons with Druckman isn't fair since he is deep into the LoU show development
 
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