Beer Monkey
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You do know that Marvel Television is one of the producers of Legion, right?
Let's see them do an MCU show that's half as good instead of worrying about what characters aren't in the MCU.
You do know that Marvel Television is one of the producers of Legion, right?
Why didn't they include a clause that said that every 10-20 years the license needs to be reviewed and renewed by both parties?
At the time that Marvel licensed out their characters they were in severe financial trouble. They desperately needed the money and had very little they could have done to get the upper hand during negotiations.
I dont even want an R-rated FF. Give it to marvel. Keep x-men and Deadpool, though.I don't think we'll see an R-rated Fantastic Four movie.
mainstream superhero comics are a constant cycle of events interrupting long form storylines and reboots to the same ol status quo so I understand not liking them but you said comics in general so that's another thing.
The X-Men movies actively piss me off though and are so far away from the awesome X-Men that I loved growing up. The heart of the X-Men isn't the same, so fuck Fox for that.
I don't think we'll see an R-rated Fantastic Four movie.
Stan Lee speaking = Stan Lee spouting bullshit.
The X-Men is such a fucking amazing property that even the shittiest movies are well received and the least successful still make tons of money.
They made one semi legit X-Men movie and it crushed every other film in the series on a miniscule budget with YouTube marketing.
That Fox can't grasp how they're holding back the golden goose with shuler, singer, and kinberg doesn't negate the obvious and inherent appeal of the best superhero franchise in the world.
Fox is two more 100 - 200 million dollar fantastic four flops from selling the rights back to Marvel and just doubling down on the X-Men universe IMHO. Three flops in a row and they will bail I bet.
Yeah this is why I hate mainstream superhero comics.
It's a take on a popular franchise.
Kinda like with the DC movies, they're that director's view of the property.
I mean look at Batman. That's a rollercoaster if there's one.
For the Fox movies, you don't really need to have watched all the movies to get what's going on and you certainly don't have parts that feels like useless filler.
I'll take the Fox Xmen movies instead of waiting for Marvel to do a spinoff for each and every character under the Sun with a big event movie every 3 years or so.
If Fox can't be arsed to make something valuable with F4, they should GTFO with that.
I assume they always are, how serious is the effort is the question
Exactly. X-Men still does well for Fox.
So what is the point of Xmen if not a parable on the wrongs of racism and discrimination? That it has lots of characters?I'll take quality over quantity any day. Most the X-men films are trash. Repetitive trash, at that. I get it, Wolverine, Xavier, Magneto, & Mystique who is more a blonde woman than a blue skinned mutant, at this point. The just completely miss the point. Fuck most of those movies. The X-men were so awesome when I was a kid. They were diverse and expansive, not focused on the same 4 characters.
I'll take quality over quantity any day. Most the X-men films are trash. Repetitive trash, at that. I get it, Wolverine, Xavier, Magneto, & Mystique who is more a blonde woman than a blue skinned mutant, at this point. The just completely miss the point. Fuck most of those movies. The X-men were so awesome when I was a kid. They were diverse and expansive, not focused on the same 4 characters.
So what is the point of Xmen if not a parable on the wrongs of discrimination? That it has lots of characters?
So what you're saying is that if kid-Magneto had just continued to never use his mutant powers, he'd not have had anything to worry about?What's the point of a parable on the wrongs of discrimination that focuses exclusively on pretty white people? The four mutants they focus on could go about their lives hardly ever be discriminated against if they didn't use their powers.
Remember the X-Men cartoon where the audience segregate character was a female Chinese American orphan that was saved by an X-Men group that had mutants who were people of color who were leaders, mutants from other countries, mutants who were physically deformed.
Storm was probably the most popular female superhero in the 90s, DC included. And these X-Men movies have basically completely sidelined and ignored her, for what exactly?
These X-men movies completely miss their mark, to me. It's unforgivable to have so many great characters and you do jack shit with them. But at least they green lit another scruffy anti-hero with Gambit. Man, fuck Fox's X-Men. They were the most popular superhero franchise but X-Men suck hard these days and it's Fox's fault.
Fantastic Four sure, X-men....eeeeh I'm okay with where it's at now. Magneto would end up as another lacking in motivation Villain back under Marvel's hands.
Because if one thing is true about MarvelStudios, it's that they don't understand their characters.Yup, under Marvel Studios he would probably solely be a good guy.
Because if one thing is true about MarvelStudios, it's that they don't write good villains
Well I mean his experience as a Jew growing up in Nazi Germany is pretty informative to his character and motivations as a whole which they show in nearly all the movies, and with it being a real life example of discrimination taken to its limit, I'd say the movies were probably closer to "the point" of Xmen than you, or at least that's currently how I feel on the matter.are you going to be purposely obtuse about this and completely miss my point? When is the last time a film has focused on Magneto as a kid?
Well I mean his experience as a Jew growing up in Nazi Germany is pretty informative to his character and motivations as a whole which they show in nearly all the movies, and with it being a real life example of discrimination taken to its limit, I'd say the movies were probably closer to "the point" of Xmen than you, or at least that's currently how I feel on the matter.
But you're right, they didn't make Storm the primary protagonist, they didn't feature Jubilee beyond small bit parts, and they aren't being made by Marvel, so the Xmen movies must be shit.
cause xmen apocalypse was just great
Hugh Jackman is the biggest miscast in history fun house mirror six foot Wolverine its silly and he acts nothing like Logan before the movies started coming out and the comics altered Logan to fit with the movie ruining the comics also fuck all those movies hope Marvel buys it back in 5 years and does X-Men right Yellow jumpsuits and all.
Yellow jumpsuits and all.