Ulysses 31
Gold Member
Then it seems more like incompetence that Disney didn't use the X-Men and FF sooner if there wasn't some contract preventing it.
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‘The Fantastic Four’: Julia Garner Joins Marvel Studios Movie As A Shalla-Bal Version Of Silver Surfer
ManaByte
Banned
Feige said when Fox was bought X-Men weren’t in their five year plan. He wasn’t lying. Even with the COVID delay the first MCU mutant was five years after the purchase.
Also Fox just released Dark Phoenix which was a huge bomb. They wouldn’t rush back to something that failed that bad so fast. The 2015 F4 movie was even worse. People forget how bad the Fox stuff was.
But now Disney owns all that garbage, and Feige says it’s all canon to the MCU due to the multiverse.
Ulysses 31
Gold Member
Which IMO was a mistake of Feige considering the hype the MCU had in 2017-2019. X-Men with different actors would've been given a chance by the audience with Marvel's rep at that time.
Edit: Most of the the Fox actors also aged considerably by now which adds to the bizarreness of Disney insisting to use the Fox actors(if that's their plan).
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ManaByte
Banned
They’re only using them in the multiverse. After Secret Wars does the soft reboot like in the comics the MCU X-Men movie will use a new cast.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
She was GREAT in Inventing Anna... Very cute in that role, too!
bitbydeath
Gold Member
I prefer this way.
FF not being on 616 explains why they never got involved with Thanos, same with Deadpool and Wolverine bringing mutants to 616.
She-hulk should be removed from canon for the shit they pulled.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Not a bad choice for Galactus Daughter
I wonder who they are casting for Norrin Radd (Silver Surfer) when he eventually shows up
LimanimaPT
Member
Another flop incoming. Hahaha
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Setting it in the 60s is a good idea.
Setting it in a different universe is a fucking stupid one.
The MCU is too fucking dead as a shared universe concept. Just drop it and make some decent stand alone movies now.
Still trying to recapture the heady days of the Infinity stones story is going to fail badly.
Setting it in a different universe is a fucking stupid one.
The MCU is too fucking dead as a shared universe concept. Just drop it and make some decent stand alone movies now.
Still trying to recapture the heady days of the Infinity stones story is going to fail badly.
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ManaByte
Banned
Hugh Jackman, Toby Maguire, and RDJ on screen together is going to make $3 billion at the box office.
FinalBossWithTheMostPower
Member
Is RDJ back for Secret Wars?
FunkMiller
Gold Member
I mean... good luck with that. I think we're way past people just turning up to the cinema because a film has some big names in it.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Rumours, I believe. Nothing substantiated.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I think so too. Then the proper surfer will never happen and my dream of a good silver surfer film will never happen….
I dont know that they can craft a convincing series of films that gets us to that point. And just a single "Avengers Greatest Hits" type Mashup film starring a bunch of 50-60 year olds is.....a stretch at best but probably worth a billion to be honest. Cost 250 mill for those 3 to show up though.
ManaByte
Banned
Well they have been building to it for the last 4 years but people have been ignoring it and claiming they weren't building to anything. Deadpool & Wolverine will probably be the last big piece, introducing the modification of the anchor concept from Hickman's Secret Wars. In the comics, each universe had a piece of Molecule Man as an anchor, in the MCU each universe has an anchor who if they die the universe ceases to exist. That's introduced in Deadpool. Then F4 and DS3 (if they get to it) will probably be the last big multiverse movies before the two Avengers. Cap 4 deals with the celestial island where people are fighting over Adamantium, Thunderbolts, Wonder Man, and Daredevil are street level. Ironheart has Mephisto, but that's probably not important to the Multiverse.
The basic path to Secret Wars is:
WandaVision
Loki S1
Multiverse of Madness
No Way Home
Ms Marvel
Loki S2
The Marvels
Deadpool & Wolverine
Fantastic 4
Avengers 5
Secret Wars
If they get to Doctor Strange 3 before Secret Wars it'll be about him and Clea dealing with Incursions that other Strange variants caused.
Quantumania had a Kang variant, but Loki S2 dismissed him as nothing. The 10 Rings could be Kang tech.
Then the new 616 MCU universe is built from what's left after Secret Wars and the X-Men movie is released.
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Shouta
Member
It is a bit high concept and may not go over well but honestly, they need to do something like this because it's way better than any of the shit stories they've had in the last phase of the MCU. I'm usually pretty soft on the stuff they've been putting out but the stories they're doing have been bland even putting execution aside.
Anyway, if the proposed story that's going around ends up being the one that makes it to film, I'd be pretty happy. Using Shalla-Bal to introduce the audience to the Silver Surfer before Norrin Rad would be interesting too if they use her to introduce the conundrum of being a herald and selling how dangerous and powerful Norrin is. That is assuming they can properly do it, of course.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I know who Shalla-Balls is but I never knew she was a herald. The comic I had with her in it had her soul getting tortured by Mephisto while Norrin Rad just stared in horror. She was his girlfriend, by the way. At least at that time.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
she's a silver surfer together with norrin in the Earth X continuity, so alternate universe stuff.
