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Valve Appears to be Working on a New Steam Box

MDSLKTR

Member
Ready for those 1.4M LTD sales.
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OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
I don’t see the point of Valve doing a Steam Machine again. PC gamers like to upgrade their PCs over time, and a console would likely be a dead end box.

Stay focused on Steam Deck, VR, and Steam OS.
Im a PC gamer and I want one. I'll happily replace my PS5 in the living room with it. I bet the price to performance this time around will be excellent.
 
Makes sense considering they are just now revising the Steam controller and this time it looks like a more traditional one. Yeah the original Steam Box(s) were wack for various reasons and the timing was also poor. I think now that Xbox sales have cratered and Steam user numbers just keep growing, the time right.
 

BigBeauford

Member
autoboot steam in big picture mode on windows startup.
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Yup, and remove the sign-in pin and you are set. I have a Mini-ITX behind my TV that does this beautifully. Only downside is you have to make sure to close the game and shut down. Going into sleep mode makes me sign in.
 

LordOfChaos

Member
autoboot steam in big picture mode on windows startup.
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I thought about elaborating lol but as soon as you have to drop back into Windows for anything (driver updates, other fiddling, software installs etc etc) it breaks apart

If they really make it something that can be used as a console like appliance with barely ever needing to use that backup Linux UI for couch use, that would be much better. I think Valve is nearly there.
 

64bitmodels

Reverse groomer.
If they really make it something that can be used as a console like appliance with barely ever needing to use that backup Linux UI for couch use, that would be much better.
You'll always need to drop back into KDE for anything involving technical shit like emulators. You can't have all the benefits of PC gaming and then ignore that Personal Computer part, lol

Windows + Big Picture mode works good already. We don't need this as much as a new Deckard, Steam Controller, or a SteamOS 3 PC release
 
I thought about elaborating lol but as soon as you have to drop back into Windows for anything (driver updates, other fiddling, software installs etc etc) it breaks apart
Aside from maybe jumping into the nvidia or amd tools to update graphics drivers every few months (and even that can be automated)...... what is there that would have you have to drop into windows on a dedicated gaming machine?
Unless ofc you want stuff outside of steam, but well, can`t have all that flexibility without some manual actions
 
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nial

Member
The steam deck reignited the want for higher end handhelds. You're getting a new PlayStation and Xbox handheld because of it. Show some respect peasant! Lol
Yeah, nah, the Switch has way more to do with it. I honestly doubt any high-level executive at SIE has looked that closely at the Steam Deck for them to even consider returning to the handheld market BECAUSE OF IT.
Steam Deck's impact on its respective market would be considered a disaster for a company like SIE, but for the type of product it is, it has indeed done decently and caught some interest for an enthusiast audience among PC gamers, which is still more than what this Steam Machine will ever do.
 

StereoVsn

Gold Member
Yeah, there are a few games but still no where near for it to be considered viable for gamers..

I think if Microsoft or Sony eventually decide to move away from x86 and start using ARM for their consoles, we might see Apple benefit as well.

Valve have a real opportunity to get ahead of the game and go straight to ARM, but I don't think they can do it
I also feel more devs are starting to port games now with M4 out. The chip is now decent enough for basic gaming even on lower CPU/GPU core counts on Mac Mini and upcoming MacBook Air.

And the M4 Pro with 16/20 GPU cores is fairly decent and can be had on Mini for $1300 and MBPro for under $2K.
 
No we wouldn’t. The pricetag was 100% why it failed. PC gamers dont want to pay more for an inferior product.

Look at the Steam Deck, the software is fine yet it’s still niche.
I view the deck as a success, personally. I'm just waiting on Valve to bring out the successor.
It may be a couple of years or so, though. Unless the recent leaks are substantiated and it comes sooner rather than later.
As for Steam Machines... you could get a decent GPU for the prices they were offering. The draw was to get new "gamers" into pc gaming with big picture, the controller, etc.
The controller was probably the best part of the package. Hah!
 

Kacho

Gold Member
Windows + Big Picture mode works good already.
Still not good enough which is why most people don't bother. If I need to plug in a keyboard and mouse to manage various things the experience falls apart.

I do wonder how soon Microsoft will have a Windows alternative to SteamOS. They need to get that out asap because Valve is outmaneuvering them. The one inherent benefit of a Windows version will be the lack of compatibility issues.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
Yeah, nah, the Switch has way more to do with it. I honestly doubt any high-level executive at SIE has looked that closely at the Steam Deck for them to even consider returning to the handheld market BECAUSE OF IT.
Steam Deck's impact on its respective market would be considered a disaster for a company like SIE, but for the type of product it is, it has indeed done decently and caught some interest for an enthusiast audience among PC gamers, which is still more than what this Steam Machine will ever do.

I think Sony is seeing a handheld market where the devices are being sold for profit and doing pretty well in that regard. Same motivation behind PS5 Pro. Can't compare subsidized sales number against non-subsidized.
 

Interfectum

Member
Yeah, nah, the Switch has way more to do with it. I honestly doubt any high-level executive at SIE has looked that closely at the Steam Deck for them to even consider returning to the handheld market BECAUSE OF IT.
Steam Deck's impact on its respective market would be considered a disaster for a company like SIE, but for the type of product it is, it has indeed done decently and caught some interest for an enthusiast audience among PC gamers, which is still more than what this Steam Machine will ever do.
Steam Deck has been a nuclear bomb on gaming handhelds. It's a niche gaming device that has zero retail presence that is no doubt nearing 6-8 million sold. It serves the same purpose as a PS Portal... it's not supposed to stand on it's own but allow you to take your library with you. This device without a doubt has influenced Sony and MS to push forward.

If you think otherwise you simply aren't paying attention.
 

64bitmodels

Reverse groomer.
Yeah, nah, the Switch has way more to do with it. I honestly doubt any high-level executive at SIE has looked that closely at the Steam Deck for them to even consider returning to the handheld market BECAUSE OF IT.
The Switch that had existed for 5+ years didn't spur jack shit. 2017-2022 no action. Then the Steam Deck comes out and all of the sudden companies are having talks and discussion on making new handhelds, dozens of PC handhelds of varying quality getting pushed out, etc.

Yeah nah this wave of new handhelds is being spurred on by the Deck more than anything. Now you can say the Deck was inspired by the Switch and I wouldn't disagree, but still at the end of the day, between the boom in PC handhelds, emulator handhelds, and talks between companies it's clear the Deck was the thing to break the dam.
 
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W11d

Member
Steam Machines round 2?
But now with Halo, Forza, God of War, Spider-Man and The Last of Us under one machine. And a better support from Japanese studios than it was last time. + new Half-Life if they're serious.
But no Fortnite and Genshin on the other hand
 

demigod

Member
I view the deck as a success, personally. I'm just waiting on Valve to bring out the successor.
It may be a couple of years or so, though. Unless the recent leaks are substantiated and it comes sooner rather than later.
As for Steam Machines... you could get a decent GPU for the prices they were offering. The draw was to get new "gamers" into pc gaming with big picture, the controller, etc.
The controller was probably the best part of the package. Hah!
The deck is successful because it was priced to make a profit and there was no alternative. I don’t see them pricing steam machines 2 competitively or subsidizing it to where it becomes mass market.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I honestly think the way things are going with Xbox shitting the bed and PlayStation going into boring and greedy mode, Valve going full on Steam Console/living room PC would be the best thing to happen for gaming. Would seriously shake up the console landscape and put some genuine pressure on both MS and Sony.

Do you think it's cost less than $800?
 
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64bitmodels

Reverse groomer.
Do you think it's cost less than $800?
It could happen TBH. It's probably running a newer AMD portable processor, those have amazing CPUs capable of supporting good GPUs. They'll sell this on its compatibility with external GPUs, for like 500 dollars. Then you can get a 4070 enclosure for 700 and play that way


These are ideal prices btw. I doubt they will be that cheap when they actually release. Building a gaming PC is the cheaper solution IMHO.
 

Crayon

Member
The conversation about steam machines failing would be so different if thry had been called "Steam Machine Portable", or the steam machines had been called "Steam Deck". I can't believe how many don't realize the deck is a steam machine. At very least, anyone who considers the switch a console and knows about the history of steam hardware should realize this.
 

Parazels

Member
Well, this just confirms that the Steam Controller 2 is 100% going to be a thing- they'll need another one of those for this new device.

Don't really care about the Steam Machine 2, we already have PCs for the ideal Steam experience. If you wanted to *really* push boundaries, try getting SteamOS on a PS5.
"Ideal experience" is not possible on windows shit by default.
 

64bitmodels

Reverse groomer.
"Ideal experience" is not possible on windows shit by default.
Steam was literally designed for windows. You don't get the 100% steam experience without using Windows. It's about as ideal as can be. 99% of the challenges of steamOS involve reaching parity with Windows.

Also, PC is not just windows. Some of you motherfuckers act like Linux didn't exist until Valve made SteamOS3
 
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Parazels

Member
Steam was literally designed for windows. You don't get the 100% steam experience without using Windows. It's about as ideal as can be. 99% of the challenges of steamOS involve reaching parity with Windows.

Also, PC is not just windows. Some of you motherfuckers act like Linux didn't exist until Valve made SteamOS3
PC = Apple.

The other personal calculators are buggy mess.
 
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