Variety: YouTube Cancels PewDiePie Show, Pulls Channel from Premium Ad Program

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it says who he is in the OT, but of course you already knew and just wanted to make a stupid joke.

Nah, I'm not familiar with Pew Die Pie, the only thing I know about him is that people on the internet complain about him. Not everyone knows about everything on the internet.
 
That said I've knew some middle school kids that loved to make Jew jokes and call each other 'Jew' as a cut down. Why? Because they saw it on South Park. Yes they were too young to be watching, but still...
South Park's primary audience is not children and it is fundamentally a satire program.

Pewdiepie is neither of those and there is nothing about what he did that has an undertone of intelligent satire or knowing wit. His joke wasn't a subversive jab of satire, it was "lol holocaust, omg shocking, put in da thumbnail".
 
Clearly some people find him funny and entertaining. If not he wouldn't be the most subscribed YouTuber with millions of views on his videos.

The video in question got 9.8 million views and currently holds a very positive Likes VS Dislikes ratio.

Destroying PewDiePie won't make a single difference when it comes to jokes about jews.
And you won't get a knight in shining amor to replace him as "king" of YouTube.
 
Some people actually believe this will be death of him... wow.

Can't wait to see H3H3 come out to defend him. Surprised we never saw them defending JonTron's shit, either. Talk about death of a good channel.

If H3H3 does come to his rescue it'll probably be in the veins that he himself is jewish and probably thinks that this has come too far. Ethan didn't defend any of Jon's shit because they are real shit, you do not give a free pass for anyone just because they're your friend, but you don't have to end friendship or collaboration either.

So be it then. And I think you're too emotional to have this discussion without your personal beliefs clouding logic.

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Thanks to you guys he will now make a video called: "The death of Pew Die Pie" or something like that, it will go viral and make a few more millions.
 
Some people actually believe this will be death of him... wow.



If H3H3 does come to his rescue it'll probably be in the veins that he himself is jewish and probably thinks that this has come too far. Ethan didn't defend any of Jon's shit because they are real shit, you do not give a free pass for anyone just because they're your friend, but you don't have to end friendship or collaboration either.
JonTron didn't do anything on youtube, it was all twitter and podcast bullshit that his subscribers didn't see unless they followed him on twitter. and he didn't say anything bad either, he doesn't need to be defended
 
Regardless of intentions, or what his actual beliefs are, one would hope that the #1 YouTube guy who is earning Google/Disney money could keep a relatively clean act. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody. Don't get me wrong either, Youtube partners with people who have said/done much worse shit but they don't have the visibility of being the platform's #1 it guy with a massive following of children and tweenagers. At the end of the day his backers are big corporations and once this controversy unfolds, they want to minimize all bad press that could be brought against them.
 
So what was the stunt? Context from the article makes it sound like someone paid him on Fiverr to say "death to all Jews" and he then did it in a video. Certainly is fucked up.

I guess he crossed a line with jew jokes that rape jokes never could.

Fair point.
 
Nah, I'm not familiar with Pew Die Pie, the only thing I know about him is that people on the internet complain about him. Not everyone knows about everything on the internet.

Yes but you are on said internet and it isn't that difficult for you to, you know, "look it up."
 
These "9 videos" thing is vastly overplayed and I'm going to straight up say that it was indeed dishonest by WSJ's part, since most of these videos are not even in the same tone, or vein, as this last one.



Yep, that's pretty much Milo's MO. Let's not forget that Milo is an absolute opportunistic piece of shit that has ruined other people's life though

yeah been wondering about this. I saw only the death to all jews video. FYI those indian guys get a lot of heat as well pewds should feel bad for them. I was hoping he uploaded video about this and turned out today he uploaded video of him and marzia celebrating valentine
 
Regardless of intentions, or what his actual beliefs are, one would hope that the #1 YouTube guy who is earning Google/Disney money could keep a relatively clean act. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody. Don't get me wrong either, Youtube partners with people who have said/done much worse shit but they don't have the visibility of being the platform's #1 it guy with a massive following of children and tweenagers. At the end of the day his backers are big corporations and once this controversy unfolds, they want to minimize all bad press that could be brought against them.

Basically this.

This is all about "cleaning" for Disney. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
I'm not subbed to this guy (not his target demographic, which I assume is largely female), but I have nothing against him. Surely he realises that the people he's affiliated with can not be seen to endorse certain topics/opinions? Makes me wonder if he's not just looking for a way out - right-wing propaganda is not a subject ANYONE can joke about on Youtube. Let alone when Disney is one of your employers, roflmao.
 
JonTron didn't do anything on youtube, it was all twitter and podcast bullshit that his subscribers didn't see unless they followed him on twitter. and he didn't say anything bad either, he doesn't need to be defended

Ethan has a twitter too, yet he never said any words aside from thinking that people calling Jon a nazi were too much. Jon has went straight into the heart of the alt-right movement so that, by itself, is shit enough. But he has said a lot of terrible things about feminism, pro-lgtb movements and even immigrants
 
PewDiePie's distasteful antics are juvenile, shock jock stunts. There is obviously no ideology or intention behind them whatsoever. He is simply trying to offend people as a gag. Clearly, he has succeeded. His corporate partners are obviously well within their rights to dissolve their relationship with him and not want his behavior to reflect on them, but the case for mass public outrage is considerably less convincing. All it does is make his followers feel (ironically enough) persecuted. Calling him a "literal Nazi" diminishes the power of a word that has recently been used much more liberally than it should be. The genocidal horrors of Nazism shouldn't be diminished by confusing them for mere taboo trampling tastelessness. PewDiePie is a frivolous individual, not a dangerous one.

People of all political stripes have serious work to do when it comes to rooting out genuine, deeply felt antisemitism within their own coalitions. The world is already full of people who despise Jews. The idea that PewDiePie's middle-school humor is going to radicalize people into real antisemitism is absurd. The "joke" only makes sense to people because they are already aware of the real world hate it is referencing. The world is full of actual Jew-hating radicals, and those who care to be informed will quickly get a sense of just what the real ideological origins of that hatred are.

These splashy, cosmetic internet controversies usually end with the ritual scapegoating and figurative stake-burning of some unlucky, incautious individual. The whole process is morally disturbing in its own right, and never does anything to address the root issues at stake.

Moral self-righteousness is no substitute for moral seriousness.

Hey man, I understand where you are coming from, but I totally disagree with you. Donald Trump was nothing but a cartoon character before the recent election. He was a birther and the punch line of many jokes. He also uses juvenile middle-school humor to communicate with his audience.

He was famous for making money and having a hit TV show. No one considered him to have anything legitimate to say regarding politics. Just look at the 2008 primaries as evidence of that.

Yet, Pewdiepie's audience is even bigger than Trump's ever was.

Trump has proved that trite humor, lack of cogency, and subversion of truths could easily start dangerous movements in our society if they are put into motion by someone who understands how to use media effectively. I'm all for taking idiots like Pewdiepie seriously and coming down harshly when they dangerous things - whether as a joke or otherwise.

We have been far too lenient on famous idiots who say insensitive things. We have to hit them where it hurts - their wallets, their fame, and their platform which gives them an audience. And if you don't think Trump is dangerous, then I point you to his relationship with Steve Bannon who is the most dangerous politician in the United States.
 
The Disney thing makes sense, and I think the Youtube thing is just a side-effect of all those deals being tied together.

I like a lot of his content but he does cross the line on a fairly regular basis, he was stupid if he thought he could be signed up with Disney and get away some of the stuff he does under the guise of satire for ever.

It's not just one video, he references Nazi stuff fairly often, same with the casual racism towards black people, it's always 'a joke' but it's also never actually funny. Maker Studios fucked up really by not sitting him down and explaining what would happen if he kept doing it.


I don't think he is right wing in any way shape or form I just think he's the classic case of a kid who's grown up being rewarded for saying the wrong things, and now he's a grown ass man in the public eye different rules apply.
 
So what was the stunt? Context from the article makes it sound like someone paid him on Fiverr to say "death to all Jews" and he then did it in a video. Certainly is fucked up.
No, he paid for two indian (I think) guys on Fiverr to hold up a sign with "death to all jews" while saying "Subscribe to Keemstar!"
 
That said I've knew some middle school kids that loved to make Jew jokes and call each other 'Jew' as a cut down. Why? Because they saw it on South Park. Yes they were too young to be watching, but still...

The equivalent when I was growing up was "that's so gay", which also came from the media and which made eventually coming to terms with my own homosexuality so needlessly painful.

These "jokes" have consequences. I applaud Disney and YouTube for not wanting any active part in it.
 

I don't see it. He's sense of humor is just controversial.

I personally think you can make jokes about anything, but know that you will offend people if you do. And clearly he has now offended the wrong people.

Personally I think paying $5 to some Indian guys to say out loud "death to all jews" is not anti-semitic or a sign of white-supremacy.
 
yeah been wondering about this. I saw only the death to all jews video. FYI those indian guys get a lot of heat as well pewds should feel bad for them. I was hoping he uploaded video about this and turned out today he uploaded video of him and marzia celebrating valentine

He tried to fix it with fiverr. He made a video about it, but it's now private.
 
yeah been wondering about this. I saw only the death to all jews video. FYI those indian guys get a lot of heat as well pewds should feel bad for them. I was hoping he uploaded video about this and turned out today he uploaded video of him and marzia celebrating valentine

This is a couple of days old actually, it just happened that all these channels cutted ties with him today. The indian guys got their fiver account suspended and Pewds pleaded with the site that they restore their account since the poor taste in the joke was all his fault and not the guys since they don't know english very well.
 
yeah been wondering about this. I saw only the death to all jews video. FYI those indian guys get a lot of heat as well pewds should feel bad for them. I was hoping he uploaded video about this and turned out today he uploaded video of him and marzia celebrating valentine

He has uploaded a video in the past about how he felt bad for the Fiver guys and was trying to help get them unbanned (which they eventually did). He got someone else banned by accident as well (meaning that it was not his intention to get people banned) and donated some money to help them get their own channel set up.
 
Did PewDiePie ever... take down... the video?

Or did he leave it up to let controversy earn himself a little extra $$$?

For example, Mega64 curates their own content, but there was one podcast where (because it's all improv), they ventured a little too close to transphobia - after uploading the video, they immediately made a statement and took down the video from any places where it appeared and promised to do better. And while their comedy is edgy and while they've been homophobic (generally with homophobes being the actual target) in the past, they change and adapt to accomodate their audience while still being funny.

Now contrast their fanbase with PewDiePie's - he knows his demographic skews younger, he knows he has millions and millions of followers, yet he doesn't make any attempt to accept the responsibility of his position. He's an idiot, and this backlash was inevitable.
 
Pulling him off premium advertising is WAY too harsh. A Youtuber shouldn't have their income permanently taken away because of dark humor. Even if he went over the line, YouTube should accept an apology. It's not like PewDiePie has done this all the time and was on thin ice. He makes fucking video game videos and commentary
 
The real crime is the exploitation of third world labor for profit.

I'm sorry, but these guys Fiver account is their best revenue, they do not want people to not use it, they pretty much need it. It's a service they are providing themselves, they're not obligated to do this, nor they have any terrible work conditions, they just film themselves in front of a camera and hold up a sign.

Did PewDiePie ever... take down... the video?

Or did he leave it up to let controversy earn himself a little extra $$$?

He did. Then all of this happened and I guess he said "fuck it" and un-privated it :/
 
He has uploaded a video in the past about how he felt bad for the Fiver guys and was trying to help get them unbanned (which they eventually did). He got someone else banned by accident as well (meaning that it was not his intention to get people banned) and donated some money to help them get their own channel set up.

Was that the video where he was getting artists to draw notorious Nazi leaders, pretending they were members of his family? Hard to keep track of all these hilarious jokes.
 
I know I'm in the minority but the only reason I know this name is from neogaf and I've never seen one video of his. Also I don't care about YouTube celebrities.
 
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Guy is a multimillionaire with a rabid fanbase. He did lose a revenue stream this way, but look at those numbers for some shitty games with his name on them. I don't get it, was he always a racist guy or is this the new alt right, 4chan appeal movement that I am seeing and he wants the Milo type crowd. I imagine his fans are now well into high school and middle school as wellm
 
I don't see it. He's sense of humor is just controversial.

I personally think you can make jokes about anything, but know that you will offend people if you do. And clearly he has now offended the wrong people.

Personally I think paying $5 to some Indian guys to say out loud "death to all jews" is not anti-semitic or a sign of white-supremacy.

In the current political climate, making these types of jokes in such a public forum is a dangerous proposition.

He does not have the cred that a big comedian like Louis CK does, and he is not intelligent enough to come off as one who is intending to be genuinely harmless when making jokes about sensitive topics. His early vids were full of homophobic jokes, but he toned those down as he got bigger.

He even did a retrospective video about the childish nature of his early stuff. Perhaps he considers jokes about Nazis and Jews to be "gorwn-up" humour?

Anyway, fuck this guy is what I'm getting at. You make your bed and all that.
 
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