Variety: YouTube Cancels PewDiePie Show, Pulls Channel from Premium Ad Program

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Bryan Newman said:
But I bet everyone here thinks Southpark is hilarious right?
Despite their constant Anti Semitism we still think they are funny?
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Their setup is usually a bit better than PDPs. And, it's a work of satire that is usually pretty carefully crafted. The anti-Semite is made to look like a fool and big baby in South Park as well.
Also, one work getting excused does not mean another will as well.

General Lee said:
It's funny only in how faceless companies like to withdraw their support from the slightest of provocations. If you're a celebrity, you gotta walk real tiptoed with these things since anything can be taken out of context and smear your career out of nowhere regardless of what good you might have done.
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Yes, it is funny that people do not want their brands affiliated with antisemitism. And it isn't really tiptoing, many comedians can make jokes on taboo topics and be just fine.
 
Bryan Newman said:
But I bet everyone here thinks Southpark is hilarious right?
Despite their constant Anti Semitism we still think they are funny?
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Matt Stone and Trey Parker are well-known and generally funny satirists and writers. Pewdiepie relied on 4chan memes for extra views. A bit different here.
 
Granjinha said:
This is a simplistic view of this kind of stuff. if that was actually true, i could say that i'm 100% sure that at some point of your life you were racist, even if it wasn't with intent.

people grow up, live and learn to let go of stupid jokes and things that can offend or diminish other people based on their gender, race and etc. Some people take longer than others. No one is obligated to be pacient or understanding (cause honestly, this shit sucks), but in this case i don't think he had actually any ill sentiment in the videos he did. Not that he doesn't deserve flak for it, but calling him a nazi is, uh, something.
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oh, i'm not calling him a nazi. i'm calling him what he is...a racist. he might grow out of it, as you say, might be taking longer than some to grow up, but with no consequence that will never happen, and until that time i feel stripping him of some of his accomplishments and earnings is a small price to pay for using the holocaust as a punchline.
 
PMS341 said:
Matt Stone and Trey Parker are well-known and generally funny satirists and writers. Pewdiepie relied on 4chan memes for extra views. A bit different here.
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Seriously...ya'll comparing the creators of one of the longest running shows to whatever it is the PewDiePie does. Even comparing him to content creators like FilthyFrank is hilarious. Guys like CaseyNeistat make PewDiePie look like a glorified Twitch streamer.
 
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Granjinha said:
because he never was racist in any opportunity that he could be? And he actually sent a message trying to clarify things? (although if that is actually true or not could be proven false in the future)
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What do you mean? Racism doesn't require a warm-up round to alert people of one's true nature. This guy displayed a "Death to all Jews!" message front and center; for someone to think the guy may be racist isn't an overreaction
 
Human Trashcan said:
boy literally did a "death to all jews" prank how you gonna defend him you ass
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Not specifically defending him... just saying calling someone "a Nazi Cunt" is pretty strong and so crude.

Nazis are people that believe in the principles of the National Socialist German Workers Party.

A Youtuber playing a crude/offensive joke is either an ass or trying to be funny and misjudging a situation.
Not everyone can be Matt and Trey but they want to be/try to be.

There is a HUGE difference.
 
His YouTube channel is still going to remain open though right? So it won't hurt him much.

Yes I'm well aware that most "rich" YouTubers make significant amounts of money on other forms of revenue.

But he has other forms of revenue such as apps etc, ultimately I don't think this will hurt him much, it's not the first time he's had controversy surrounding him, one was about rape too remember?

Yes we could argue which is worse, but put it this way I won't be shedding tears for him with the fear that he won't make any money any more lol.
 
Good on him for doing the content he wants to do. I don't doubt it's a joke on his part, but he must have known the mainstream reaction and known mainstream press wouldn't miss an opportunity to shit on him. And he did it anyway. So I can't think anything other than good on him.
 
Bryan Newman said:
Anyone you don't like? Is that better?
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That isn't what's happening here.

I actually agree that calling him a Nazi is silly considering what it means to be an actual Nazi.

But you're downplaying this into "opinions" and "well people just don't like him so they're being too mean."
 
Now if only corporations go after anti-muslim and anti-arab hatred, we can make further progress.

This chap got what he deserves. Good on YouTube.
 
4 is a cutie said:
But where's the reason why someone shouldn't think PDP is racist?
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I don't think he is racist based on the videos I just watched. Bad taste? Yes and stupid. I like absurd and offensive humor, but that worked as well as a led balloon. I am way too old to be part of his audience (my teenager daughter watches him), so I don't know what else he has said. He made a mistake. Learn from it and try to put out a better product.


Sesuadra said:
Wow his fan base is horrible, the comments to the CNN tweet about this are so...I can't find an adjective
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I actually find his anti-fan base the worst. I am not even a fan, but his haters are just dumb.
 
I don't know enough about this guy to say whether he's really a anti-Semite or if he tried too hard to be edgy.


Either way he played himself.
 
besada said:
If you want to disagree with someone, you should, but posting a bunch of question marks as a response is a waste of space, and will get you banned for shit posting.
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It was lazy, my bad.
I just can't wrap my head around these kind of comments. The hyperbol is reaching new heights.

A (bad) joke doesn't make you an "anti-semite nazi cunt". Are you even aware of what you are implying ?
 
Vice said:
Yes, it is funny that people do not want their brands affiliated with antisemitism. And it isn't really tiptoing, many comedians can make jokes on taboo topics and be just fine.
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The ridiculous part about is that it's about potential negative pr to the company, not about whether they actually think this was a justified response or not. If there's enough outrage, that's enough of a reason for faceless corporate pr to decide they'd rather stay out of it. These things happen all the time for anything that's potentially bad for business. Yes, comedians make jokes on taboo topics, and it should be ok, like in this case. When they make a misjudgement and there's outrage over it, they're screwed. But I suppose that's the line of work they're in and need to realize it and see where the line is crossed.
 
DigtialT said:
No, he stopped doing those years ago
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Huh. That's pretty good then.
Vice said:
To distance yourself from someone who is now affiliated with anti-semitism. Same reason other shows get the plug pulled if someone involved is in the spotlight for something very negative.
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I guess, but with other YT partners still being asses, you'd think they'd let it slide. Or wait until after the show aired. Things were getting quiet about this stuff.
 
Megalo said:
It was lazy, my bad.
I just can't wrap my head around these kind of comments. The hyperbol is reaching new heights.

A (bad) joke doesn't make you an "anti-semite nazi cunt". Are you even aware of what you are implying ?
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He makes money over antisemitism, in fact he spreads antisemic messages... That's a cunt move. The only thing I can agree on with you that a antisemite isn't necessarily a nazi.
 
Symphonic said:
And this is how shit like this spirals out of control. People will believe anything.

He was dumb as hell to post the prank. He's getting what he deserves. He's not a Nazi. Move on.
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That is why I asked if it was real. I don't follow his videos, I have no idea if he ever actually made something like that or not. Followed by an assumption that IF it was indeed real, it was a lot more than I expected.

Thanks anyway I guess.

kudoboi said:
https://youtu.be/KtxXKezbQ9w
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Thanks :) Nothing like seeing the source of the problem yourself. Much oblidged!
 
kudoboi said:
https://youtu.be/KtxXKezbQ9w
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Oh wow. Doubling down.

His next video is gonna be good.

Macchiato said:
From what I understand he's a generally good person, albeit one that's going through a creative and identity crisis and who tends to steamroll through the subtleties of what's an acceptable edgy joke and what's too far.

For a year or so now he seems to have been (unsuccessfully) trying to distance himself from his former kid-friendly, screams-at-vidya-games persona. I imagine this includes trying to garner an audience of older (at least, older than 14) people, or whoever enjoys Filthy Frank style content.

He's shown several times that he holds a lot of resentment towards different groups who try to mould him into roles he doesn't want (the media as misunderstanding him, his OG fans who want him to continue making Amnesia videos forever, etc). Right now he seems to feel like his current identity is Filthy Frank, except he's a lot more mainstream than him and as such can't get away with nearly as much.

Going back to the video in question, I absolutely do not think that he meant any harm in what he did. He just had very very poor judgement and allowed a knee jerk idea of "lol what if I asked them to write death to all jews would they do it OMG THEY DID LOL".

He seems like he feels remorse, and I don't think he deserves the vitriol from the community he's getting, but I do find it completely fair for companies to pull their support from him. Whether or not he was sincere in his antisemitism (which again, I absolutely don't think he was), I as a brand manager would not want an influencer who in part represents my brand displaying such a lack of good judgement.
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Excellent post. This is a good summary for those who haven't kept up with him recently.
 
Look, PDP done fucked up but...this won't end his career. Let's be real here. Anyone who thinks it will is seriously overestimating the maturity level of his gigantic fan base.

As a side note: not loving that "Nazi" is potentially turning into a buzzword. Dark times, man.
 
Bryan Newman said:
But I bet everyone here thinks Southpark is hilarious right?
Despite their constant Anti Semitism we still think they are funny?
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Well it is a brand synonymous for it from its outset of "toilet humour", but never for purely pushing that agenda, usually with some undertone of obvious over the top joke or moral, political assertion through its narrative to its conclusion. It became somewhat forgivable over time as it was clear that much was satire and stupidity, warnings plastered over the beginning to get away with satire that even punched at celebrities (i'm always reminded of cartman's transformation into hitler while worshipping mel gibson - where clearly the majority of lead characters are against that)

Pewdiepie on the other hand, is someone that hasn't been associated with that from the beginning and is hooked into brands that wouldn't even go close to even a small joke on such topics. On the topic of the references in question - even the semblance of a joke is missing. On the point of Pewdiepie - no I don't think he is a nazi or anti-semite, but it seems obvious his jokes were poorly constructed and in poor taste because of it; a recurring pattern from him lately.
 
I wished innocent murdered black folks (sometimes kids) had as much of a defense force as this dude does

dude says racist shit 9 times, none of it's funny or actual jokes for that matter

and you people bending over backwards in this thread to say "oh he's just misunderstood"

What is wrong with you people?

i'm just saying I wish other minorities got the whole "misunderstood" treatment
 
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