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Various Windows Vistas Previews...
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I got confirmation that what we are seeing in Beta 1 is no where near representative of what Beta 2 is shaping up to look like. The only thing Beta 1 shows is the blurry transparency effect and animations. Supposedly, the windows and buttons will look much better. I won't hold my breath.
But so far, I love the new features.
But so far, I love the new features.
do the truly insane specs still hold?
ie if u want everything to run u need a complete beast just to run the os in full mode
EDIT from here
this from Mary Jo Foleys site http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1790569,00.asp
"Microsoft officials at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC) here this week in Seattle attempted to provide some answers, vague as though they were.ADVERTISEMENT
In the past, Microsoft used WinHEC to deliver a very detailed set of hardware reference specs to the OEMs who attend the event so that they can build new PCs that would be able to run whichever version of Windows was on tap.
At last year's WinHEC, developer sources said that Microsoft was going to recommend the "average" Longhorn PC feature a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market.
Microsoft declined to comment on the rumored specs and never went public with any recommended Longhorn specs at last year's show.
At this year's WinHEC, Microsoft offered up only the most basic of guidelines as to what PC makers should do to make their PCs "Longhorn-ready." During a session at this week's show, Mark Croft, a group product manager in the Windows product management group, told PC makers that most existing mainstream 32- and 64-bit CPUs from mainstream manufacturers should run Longhorn.
While dual-core CPUs will run Longhorn better, "Longhorn does run on mainstream processors," Croft said.
The only other Longhorn PC requirements that are set in stone are 512 MB or better of RAM and, support for the new Longhorn Display Driver Model (LDDM) in order to handle the operating system's new graphical features.
(Comparatively, Microsoft suggests that users have a 300-MHz CPU and 128 MB of RAM to run Windows XP.)"
ie if u want everything to run u need a complete beast just to run the os in full mode
EDIT from here
this from Mary Jo Foleys site http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1790569,00.asp
"Microsoft officials at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC) here this week in Seattle attempted to provide some answers, vague as though they were.ADVERTISEMENT
In the past, Microsoft used WinHEC to deliver a very detailed set of hardware reference specs to the OEMs who attend the event so that they can build new PCs that would be able to run whichever version of Windows was on tap.
At last year's WinHEC, developer sources said that Microsoft was going to recommend the "average" Longhorn PC feature a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market.
Microsoft declined to comment on the rumored specs and never went public with any recommended Longhorn specs at last year's show.
At this year's WinHEC, Microsoft offered up only the most basic of guidelines as to what PC makers should do to make their PCs "Longhorn-ready." During a session at this week's show, Mark Croft, a group product manager in the Windows product management group, told PC makers that most existing mainstream 32- and 64-bit CPUs from mainstream manufacturers should run Longhorn.
While dual-core CPUs will run Longhorn better, "Longhorn does run on mainstream processors," Croft said.
The only other Longhorn PC requirements that are set in stone are 512 MB or better of RAM and, support for the new Longhorn Display Driver Model (LDDM) in order to handle the operating system's new graphical features.
(Comparatively, Microsoft suggests that users have a 300-MHz CPU and 128 MB of RAM to run Windows XP.)"
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looks nice
Talking to my friend that works at MS it seems at the beginning there's not going to be very many reasons for the average user to switch from XP. However, the underlying architecture is so much better and developer friendly that after a while there's gonna be a large amount of very useful software that will prompt users to switch. Also at the time when the average computer will be able to run Vista well.
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there is actually some really cool ideas going around how to use the WGF desktop.Barnimal said:
One HUGE change will be render initialization. PC games have to initialize the 3D renderer and your screen flickers like crazy, or when you alt-tab out of game it has to switch back. That is gone, in a DX/WGF game. Since the desktop uses the same API structure the game would simply just 'fade' to the background and become transparent.
A true 3D desktop wouldn't be nearly as cool as it sounds.
element said:
This is quite bad for your 3D videocard since it has to hardware accelerate ALL the time now instead of just doing it between 3D applications(games and CAD). Even running at low settings would wear down the life of your videocard. I don't even want to discuss the problem laptops/notebook will have because of increased generated heat.
tenchir said:
actually, I don't think so. your videocard is always running at low levels. one or two extra processes being active won't do a thing. it's like having a 3D screensaver. if anything, it will be EASIER on your card, because the 2D windows implementation is generally a bigger pain in the ass(er, so says a former boss of mine, who does CME development with microsoft tools)
the start menu is good
classic style
i never touch the new ones
anyways for vista they are also implementing parental controls for games
either control by ESRB standards or by content.
so animated blood and oops! game won't work.
*cue people whining about GTA:SA hot coffee mod*
classic style
i never touch the new ones
anyways for vista they are also implementing parental controls for games
either control by ESRB standards or by content.so animated blood and oops! game won't work.
*cue people whining about GTA:SA hot coffee mod*
I never really got into the Start Menu. I find it to be a tacky way to go about things, but at least they're addressing the All Programs thing by incorporating it into there rather than having it take eons to show up if you have a lot of programs (although this happens on OS X too really, at least if you right-click the Applications folder in the Dock).
I read through most of PC Mag's preview and I'll sort through them both tonight, as I'm recovering from my PowerBook's hard drive failure and a lack of Internet for 3 days, but Vista doesn't sound too bad. Right now it sounds mostly like a bunch of features that are standard in Tiger, but that's a good thing as I find a lot of the features that Vista is throwing in to be handy and very practical. The user interface stuff still seems like it could use more work as it still feels overly cluttered to me, but that's usually polished up way more near the end of things.
While I'm still disappointed altogether with Vista and weary of any Microsoft promises, I actually found the previews more encouraging so far than before.
I read through most of PC Mag's preview and I'll sort through them both tonight, as I'm recovering from my PowerBook's hard drive failure and a lack of Internet for 3 days, but Vista doesn't sound too bad. Right now it sounds mostly like a bunch of features that are standard in Tiger, but that's a good thing as I find a lot of the features that Vista is throwing in to be handy and very practical. The user interface stuff still seems like it could use more work as it still feels overly cluttered to me, but that's usually polished up way more near the end of things.
While I'm still disappointed altogether with Vista and weary of any Microsoft promises, I actually found the previews more encouraging so far than before.
http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/winvista_b1_27.jpg
The new Explorer address bar change is really slick. Makes a lot more sense to do it that way.
I'm rather disappointed that MS decided to cut the most advanced features of Longhorn though, like the new File System. It sounded really slick from the previews.
The new Explorer address bar change is really slick. Makes a lot more sense to do it that way.
I'm rather disappointed that MS decided to cut the most advanced features of Longhorn though, like the new File System. It sounded really slick from the previews.
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True. And if you use LCD monitor, that's the likely scenario anyways.If you play a game in windows XP with the same resolution and refresh rate as the desktop, the screen doesn't flicker at all...
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