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[Punished Miku]

The Xbox lack of release date is 100% not about Starfield and 100% about the Series S problems. It would've released the same day as the PC version if that was the case.

Personally, I don't think so. Playstation is outselling Xbox by a lot and the huge chance to capture a large audience is there after Bethesda exclusivity left a vacancy waiting to be filled on that platform. Putting it on Xbox first just makes PS gamers wait, and be less enthusiastic. I think they played this virtually perfectly. It's coming out in order of most important console to them to least important 1) PC, 2) PS5, 3) XB.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

You can read. One post after the next. Go for it. Start on #133.

I had to stop at #133. I couldn't stomach seeing you deteriorate any further

 

[aliadiere25]

I'd be concerned about Starfield's release if I were an Xbox fan right now.

 

[GHG]

 

[Shrap]

Personally, I don't think so. Playstation is outselling Xbox by a lot and the huge chance to capture a large audience is there after Bethesda exclusivity left a vacancy waiting to be filled on that platform. Putting it on Xbox first just makes PS gamers wait, and be less enthusiastic. I think they played this virtually perfectly. It's coming out in order of most important console to them to least important 1) PC, 2) PS5, 3) XB.

Stop talking out of your ass. The Series S is 100% the reason for the delay until there is any evidence proving otherwise. Microsoft would not allow Larian to bring bad attention to the Xbox Brand and the Series S because Larian are making an excuse to avoid launching BG3 around the same time as Starfield. That is absurd stupidity.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Do we have any proof that Larian studios is lying about this?

Pretty strange that Microsoft isn't doing anything to correct this if its wrong.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Do we have any proof that Larian studios is lying about this?

Pretty strange that Microsoft isn't doing anything to correct this if its wrong.

 

[Skifi28]

Do we have any proof that Larian studios is lying about this?

Strong belief is sorta, kinda like proof.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I can definitely see shills trying to call Larian liars and shift the blame to Starfield instead of addressing the issues with the Series S with this title. Seems like that what's happening.

If the developers are blaming the Series S and Microsofts policies that's probably the truth. If it wasn't Microsoft would shut it down.

 

[Zheph]

Are those the new directives from Redmond? Decent angle but it lack some polish, props nonetheless

 

[MacReady13]

Just release it on game pass for FREE with missing features! None of the Xbox fanboys will care as they don't have to pay for it and they need content...

 

[Warablo]

That's a long time, must not be in any rush.

 

[In Cold Blood]

Literally every one of their release dates is 100% about Starfield. They moved up their PC release a month to avoid it, which is just smart. They are launching on the exact same day as Starfield on PS5 to capitalize on Playstation demand for a WRPG, which again is just smart. They are publicly saying that their delay on Xbox is due to the S, but it also just happens to also make a ton of a sense since most people interested in WRPGs on Xbox will likely be busy for several months. It's 3 smart calls, and all 3 of them are 100% about Starfield.

That was exactly my point. The fact that it was seen as console warring is fucked up, and an infraction points is pathetic.

Nothing will want to launch on Xbox as Starfield. It will destroy everything else released at the same time.
As the PS5 doesn't have Starfield, it would be a good move to release it on PS5 at the same time, as it doesn't have Starfield.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

That was exactly my point. The fact that it was seen as console warring is fucked up, and an infraction points is pathetic.

Because it is warring and neither you nor miku are fooling anyone

 

[Achille0s]

If forza horizon 5 can run on the series s no other should not, bad developer and bad tools it's the way, this game is not an extra evolution on what games are so they can do their job or stop crying

 

[Skifi28]

If forza horizon 5 can run on the series s no other should not

These "if X runs then Y should" posts are ridiculous. This is not how game development works. Also pretty sure Horizon doesn't have split screen which seems to be the issue here.

 

[Achille0s]

These "if X runs then Y should" posts are ridiculous. This is not how game development works. Also pretty sure Horizon doesn't have split screen which seems to be the issue here.

What you will say if Microsoft dev can fix it and the game can run on the series s

 

[graywolf323]

I had to stop at #133. I couldn't stomach seeing you deteriorate any further

Pepperidge Farms remembers when Punished Miku didn't used to spin every single damn thing for Xbox

 

[Skifi28]

What you will say if Microsoft dev can fix it and the game can run on the series s

Of course they will eventually, that's the reason they were sent to help.

 

[Hudo]

I'd be concerned about Starfield's release if I were an Xbox fan right now.

Why? Different games, different developers and different engines.

 

[Zheph]

Why? Different games, different developers and different engines.

I reckon he talks about a possible new delay

 

[cartman414]

Series S is the new Wii.

 

[noise36]

Doesn't seem like an issue when you can just play on PC ?

 

[MetalFreak]

if (currentEnv == Environments.SERIES_S) {
resolution = resolution * 0.25;
framerate = framerate * 0.5;
}

git add -u
git commit -m "fix: make work on series S"
git push origin HEAD

E Z

This is probably one of the best replies i've seen... LMAO

GG man

 

[AngelMuffin]

I cant imagine there is a huge audience for cRPG's like this on consoles anyway. no? It's quite a PC dominated market segment.

I remember loving BG2 on the PS2 back in the day. Plenty of fans out there on console.

 

[kuncol02]

I remember loving BG2 on the PS2 back in the day. Plenty of fans out there on console.

There was no BG2 on PS2. It was PC only.

 

[Duchess]

I'd be concerned about Starfield's release if I were an Xbox fan right now.

Why? Todd Howard himself says he's mostly play the game on Series S and that it's great. Xbox fans have absolutely nothing to worry about.

And if Todd says it's great, it sure will be!

Todd Howard Says Starfield Is 'Great' On Xbox Series S

"Most of my Starfield play has been on Series S"

www.purexbox.com

 

[nowhat]

Why? Todd Howard himself says he's mostly play the game on Series S and that it's great. Xbox fans have absolutely nothing to worry about.

And if Todd says it's great, it sure will be!

Todd Howard Says Starfield Is 'Great' On Xbox Series S

"Most of my Starfield play has been on Series S"

www.purexbox.com

Also Cyberpunk ran "surprisingly well" on last gen consoles.

...in retrospect, CDPR probably meant "frankly, we're surprised it runs at all".

 

[twilo99]

Truth is they don't need Xbox. PC success already and will sale well on PS5

True for a lot of developers, which is why we have the Activision situation…

 

[AngelMuffin]

There was no BG2 on PS2. It was PC only.

Sorry, meant BG: Dark Alliance 2. Doesn't really change what I said though. Plenty of demand on consoles.

 

[FunkMiller]

Kinda sad at how obvious it was that the Series S would hamstring the Series X, and yet so many people defended the decision to put out weaker, worse hardware.

 

[amigastar]

If i would be Microsoft i would change the rules for XBox Series X and S as fast as possible.

 

[Topher]

What you will say if Microsoft dev can fix it and the game can run on the series s

If/when Larian gets split screen working doesn't change the fact that it will have taken months of additional work to do so. I'm sure some folks will stick their head in the sand and pretend this was all Larian's fault even though 343 had to abandon their own plans for split screen with Halo Infinite.

 

[Panajev2001a]

If i would be Microsoft i would change the rules for XBox Series X and S as fast as possible.

Then you would have to admit that the XSS is splitting the userbase and it was holding the XSX back and their fan base is not ready to evangelise yet another u-turn.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Wouldn't be surprised if we get more of this happening. Series s must be a giant pain in the ass for devs who want to utilise the PS5 and series X without having to worry about it. Can't do that if you want a good series s version aswell unless you want games running at 480p on the system. Microsoft won't allow that. They've added uneeded strain on devs with this system.

 

[Captain Toad]

Do we have any proof that Larian studios is lying about this?

Pretty strange that Microsoft isn't doing anything to correct this if its wrong.

What are they gonna do? Change their policy? That would open Pandora's Box and we could see many publishers start pulling features from the Series S versions of their games.

 

[Freeman76]

Stop talking out of your ass. The Series S is 100% the reason for the delay until there is any evidence proving otherwise. Microsoft would not allow Larian to bring bad attention to the Xbox Brand and the Series S because Larian are making an excuse to avoid launching BG3 around the same time as Starfield. That is absurd stupidity.

To be fair though, not allowing both Xbox versions to release without splitscreen and then add it in later is also pretty stupid. I buy all my multiplatform games on Xbox because I prefer the elite controller, and will now buy BG3 for my PS5 because this is a game I want to play asap, how many other people wont want to wait for MS to sort this shit out. When you are as far behind in a competition for sales as MS are, you need to pull out all the stops.

 

[MasterCornholio]

To be fair though, not allowing both Xbox versions to release without splitscreen and then add it in later is also pretty stupid. I buy all my multiplatform games on Xbox because I prefer the elite controller, and will now buy BG3 for my PS5 because this is a game I want to play asap, how many other people wont want to wait for MS to sort this shit out. When you are as far behind in a competition for sales as MS are, you need to pull out all the stops.

Maybe feature parity extends beyond Xbox consoles.

 

[SmurfMustard]

Sorry, meant BG: Dark Alliance 2. Doesn't really change what I said though. Plenty of demand on consoles.

Except if people expect Dark Alliance gameplay and get BG3. Some people will have a rude awakening or find out that they maybe enjoy the difficulties of a classic crpg.

 

[kuncol02]

Sorry, meant BG: Dark Alliance 2. Doesn't really change what I said though. Plenty of demand on consoles.

Totally different game and totally different genre.

 

[The Pleasure]

Except if people expect Dark Alliance gameplay and get BG3. Some people will have a rude awakening or find out that they maybe enjoy the difficulties of a classic crpg.

Difficulties are in the eye of the beholder ii.

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

If forza horizon 5 can run on the series s no other should not

 

[Evil Calvin]

You already tried pushing it's Sony fault narrative in the other thread .

Devs themselves saying they're having issues getting it work and MS sending people to help. Why can't you accept it?

But so tell us how they can fix split screen for your plastic box.

They could have just cut or delayed split screen co-op (which 1% of the players would use) but Larian said no. Why would Larian say no? Hmmmm

 

[Slicker than your average]

They could have just cut or delayed split screen co-op (which 1% of the players would use) but Larian said no. Why would Larian say no? Hmmmm

Oh right so you're doubling down on it's Sony's fault and Sony paid them narrative. Ok

 

[Fools idol]

I do wonder if Microsoft is making life difficult for them after refusing the buyout

 

[AngelMuffin]

Totally different game and totally different genre.

Except if people expect Dark Alliance gameplay and get BG3. Some people will have a rude awakening or find out that they maybe enjoy the difficulties of a classic crpg.

I get that one is action based gauntlet-like game vs turned based but there's cross-over appeal for sure.

 

[Fools idol]

I'm sorry but playing a cRPG like this on a console is like eating the most delicious soup in the world using a fork instead of a spoon.

If that is your bag have at it, each to their own I'll probably double dip on PS5 at some point anyway

 

[Evil Calvin]

Oh right so you're doubling down on it's Sony's fault and Sony paid them narrative. Ok

Likely yes. Don't be so naive.

 

[ulantan]

Likely yes. Don't be so naive.

The Microsoft engineers are at larian studios desperately searching for the money sony paid them lmfao.

 

[drganon]

Likely yes. Don't be so naive.