Would require a different pinout & require more layered PCB, highly doubt it.
VGLeaks: PS4's architecture evolution over time
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Yeah in 2011 - It was 2 originally, with a sort of "hey if we can throw more in there we will" - and so they did. Funny they call that CPU switch an "upgrade" lol
The machine is well balanced. It stands toe to toe with a mid-range current gen PC, which is about the best any one can ask for if the PS4 prices itself into the right hemisphere.
phosphor112
Banned
That's why I doubted it =P. I think the bus/controller is directly on the chip itself as well. I may be mistaken.
That's not why he was banned, he was posting what amounted to teasing.
No, they are available. But they can use lower voltage version of GDDR5 memory with 176GB/s bandwidth.
snoopeasystreet
Member
It clearly means the next Wario game is coming to the PS4.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
You and thuway should just leak everything you know :/These look familiar
iceatcs
Junior Member
MS's allergy
This special sauce sounds delicious!
Chû Totoro
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Dead Prince
Banned
everybody there will be able to buy 5 ps4 each.
Yes.
Wishmaster92
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Incredible, most of the games out now use only 2 cores. Just wait until games are optimized for 8 cores, , mind fucking blown.
SenjutsuSage
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It seems to have evolved rather nicely over time. Next gen can't come soon enough.
It's much harder to "optimize" games for 8 netbook/tablet-style CPUs than it is for 2 or 4 more powerful, more capable cores.
Not much to "leak" when something has already been officially announced.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Do you see this being a long-term issue or something that'll be addressed early on in the upcoming generation?
You keep saying that but wouldn't customizations (including the rumoured clock speed upgrade) and utilizing 8 instead of normal 4 cores (in vanilla Jag) improve it?
Wishmaster92
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Just like how cell was a pain to code for, at least it's better than what they first planned (4 cores).
i-Lo said:
8 Jaguars are not better than 4 Steamrollers in any way other than (likely) cost and power consumption. Steamroller isn't ready, though.
Crimson_Gold said:
I don't see it as too much of an issue, as this isn't the Cell - coding for it will be easier. But any programmers I know would much rather have 4 fat, capable cores like Core i/Steamroller than more of the ARM/Atom/Jaguars of the world.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
When did Sony release any real technical information about the system?
Does this satisfied your every curiosity? It doesn't do it for me.
When did Sony release any real technical information about the system?
Does this satisfied your every curiosity? It doesn't do it for me.
They put out a spec sheet.
Wait. so you understand how tech works, or are you just pretending you know something?
because if you do understand tech, your tag doesn't suit you.
If you don't, then yeah.
StevieP
Doesn't actually understand technology or have insider info.
I know nothing
(as is often the case on GAF, don't judge people by their tags or junior statuses or anything like that - contributions to a discussions are still contributions to a discussion... respond to those contributions)
Crimson_Gold
Member
He knows what he's talking about
Tags are also used as jokes
But yes, less, more powerful cores are generally preferred to more, weaker cores. It's just simpler.
phosphor112
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I like the infograph better.
I also like the somewhat arbitrary icons they used. The CPU would be more akin to the Brain, and graphics.. being a brush? (ENHANCED GRAPHICS YO!), and then memory... I don't yeah....
...yeah.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
With very little info.
Nothing of substance. The leaks have far more real information, if correct.
It has been said that in pure FLOPS, Jaguar is definitely weaker. However, in general purpose performance, it beats CELL. I haven't really followed anything about the CELL, though, so I don't know for sure. Just repeating what has been said before by knowledgeable people.
phosphor112
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You fell victim to his tag.
phosphor112
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Yep, CPU's aren't designed for highly paralleled processes like a GPU. I really wish Sony went with a better CPU. That's my only problem. I want them to be able to run PlanetSide 2 on there without any hitches and without using the compute from the GPU extensively.
Wishmaster92
Member
For now.
phosphor112
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Well yeah... And GPU's don't have 1TB/s bandwidth, for now. Doesn't change the fact that we are in the present and we need to work with things accordingly.
The other thing to remember is heat and power issues with modern consoles. Faster processors would be great, but it comes under these limitations. I'm seeing current and future consoles more like gaming laptops without the screen. The form-factor is larger, but that extra space is taken by the power supply and applicable cooling solutions.
I been wondering about this part of the APU round map & if it applied to the PS4 APU like could turbo mode take the 8 1.6GHz cores & use them like 4 3.2GHz cores? or well that only work with a APU that already have CPU cores that are clocked at around 3.2GHz?
phosphor112
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The studio comes back as a Phoenix. *tear*
Has their been a thread for this interview with Cerny it's in Japanese? it was sent to me by danhese007 but I'm not able to make threads.
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/series/rt/20130325_593036.html
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/series/rt/20130325_593036.html
A more capable CPU would be better of course, but it depends on the game really. The i7 is a much more capable CPU in terms of overall performance than an AMD Phenom II, but in terms of frames-per-second in certain games, the difference is negligible. The reason being, that particular game is more GPU intensive than CPU intensive.
4 Steamroller cores as in 2 modules? Because that ain't so hot. (and 4 modules would be comparatively huge)
New news, new thread.