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VICE interview with the author of The Great Beanie Baby Bubble

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Forkball

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Thankfully, someone is writing a book about Beanie Babies. VICE decided to interview this person. The article is a bit too long to post here, but here are some choice selections.

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VICE: How did you end up writing a book about Beanie Babies?
Zac Bissonnette: It was 2010 or 2011, and I was at an auction in Massachusetts. I went to auctions a lot—I was furnishing my condo—and in the back of the room at one sale were these huge Rubbermaid containers full of Beanie Babies, which I remember from the 90s. The interesting thing about them was not the Beanie Babies themselves but the manifest conviction of whoever had assembled this collection and thought that it would one day be of great value. They were all preserved with these plastic protectors over the heart tags, and there were all these spreadsheets about what each animal was worth, color-coded stuff. Very type A. And all this energy was poured into the cataloging of a collection of Beanie Babies, which were worthless. I think the whole thing sold for $100.

But for a few years in the late 1990s a huge swath of America thought that these animals were the ticket to long-term riches. The stats are really interesting. At one point, Beanie Babies were worth 10% of eBay sales. The guy who invented them, Ty Warner, was worth around $2 billion. And all that money was from Beanie Babies.

VICE: What happened? What caused these people to think Beanie Babies were so valuable?
Bissonnette: Ty had been a very successful toy salesman. In 1994, he released the first Beanie Babies. And at first, nothing happened. Retailers thought they looked cheap. They worried that they were too inexpensive and would cannibalize sales. So at first it was very, very hard for [Beanie Babies] to get it going at all. But Ty Warner was just really convinced that this was the product that was gonna put him on the map. The guy who did his distribution in Canada remembers Ty summoning him into his office in Westmont, Illinois. Ty reaches into his desk and pulls out the prototype for Legs the Frog, and says, "From now on, every dime we have goes into this."

When I first heard that, I thought it was fake, like a line from a movie. But other people said the same thing. His girlfriend at the time recalled him showing Legs the Frog to her daughters and throwing it in the air, saying, "Can you believe how fun this is?" He'd bring prototypes to their family dinners and ask the daughters to name them. His girlfriend would say, "We're just trying to eat dinner," and Ty would say, "We can eat after the toys have names." So nothing really happened with them at first, but Ty was just... very perfectionistic. He'd spend several hours over every animal. He used to brush the hair on each toy before it shipped. And that obsession didn't change after a piece was released. He would take an animal after it had been released, and he'd change the design on it because he decided it didn't look right. Peanut the Elephant, in 1995, was this royal blue color. They shipped a few thousand, not that many. Then Ty decide that instead of this royal blue color it should be a baby blue color. So Ty started to change stuff, and no one really cared.

Then, all of a sudden, Beanie Babies started to develop a following among kids from suburban Chicago. The mothers started collecting them; a lot of this was tied into this soccer mom culture of the 1990s, much of which was centered around consumerism. The Beanie Babies were sort of the apotheosis of this. These women started to get really into it, started trying to assemble complete sets of Beanie Babies. As they went from store to store, calling around, they started to realize there are all these weird variations. Like they would find that he had changed the design on Teddy the Bear. So they started to pay higher prices for the variations. And the word of these higher prices got out. An economist once said that "there is nothing so dangerous to one's sense of self as to see a good friend get rich." And so it was that these stories of a relatively small group of people paying increasingly higher prices for the rarest Beanie Babies turned this into a phenomenon with no major marketing and no major stores.

VICE: While researching The Great Beanie Baby Bubble, did you have the chance to meet Ty Warner?
Bissonnette: I met him once at a toy fair. It was very, very strange. He showed up to look at his booth, this very strange-looking man. He's had a lot of plastic surgery. 70 years old with this very blonde hair. Very spiffy dresser. I walked over to him and I think he was kind of surprised. He doesn't really talk to people. He lives in this $150 million mansion in Montecito and no one really talks to him.

VICE: It sounds like this story is teetering on tragedy. Were there people whose lives were ruined by Beanie Babies?
Bissonnette: I mean, certainly, people lost a lot of money on Beanie Babies. Ty sales were, at one time, more than $1 billion a year. Virtually all of that demand was speculative. It's not unreasonable to say that at least 70% of Beanie Babies sold were bought because people thought they'd go up in value.

More info at the link. It sounds like an interesting book. I look forward to him writing about amiibos in 20 years.
 

Stinkles

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The beanie baby bubble was a great reminder at the time, of the logical downside of median intelligence.
 

Toothless

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I'd be very interested in reading this; a few years ago, I got a "Beanie Babies Collector's Guide 1997" at a white elephant exchange and out of boredom on a car ride, read the whole thing. The fact that there were so many variations and speculation on profit margins on these toys is one of the most interesting obscure things to me.
 

AlexMogil

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Yep, my first thought was about the silly Amiibo collectors on GAF.

I buy ones I like and use, sell ones that people are dumb about. My entire collection have been funded by the sale of a Wii Fit Trainer, a Villager, and a Marth.

They are neat little statues with minimal game usage. That's it.

Sell the ones worth money. Don't pay 15 times retail for a Wii Fit Trainer.
 

Forkball

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This was exactly what I was thinking about.Sure they're hot right now but how much are these really worth?

To be fair, most people are buying amiibos because they actually want them. People were buying beanie babies because they thought they would be valuable in the future, similar to the comic collector phase of the early 90s. There are those who buy tons of amiibos for profit, but in the short term as they try to flip them ASAP as opposed to holding onto them indefinitely like beanie babies.

I just looked up "Legs the Frog" the supposed first beanie baby on Amazon. It's $1.50.
 

Zombine

Banned
I straight up fought some old lady for Glory when I was 10 years old. I won and the toy was my prize.

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This is what freedom looks like. I did it for America.
 
I buy ones I like and use, sell ones that people are dumb about. My entire collection have been funded by the sale of a Wii Fit Trainer, a Villager, and a Marth.

They are neat little statues with minimal game usage. That's it.

Sell the ones worth money. Don't pay 15 times retail for a Wii Fit Trainer.


I'm sure a lot of Beanie Baby collectors said the same thing.
 

Zombine

Banned
I think the biggest difference between Amiibo and Beanie Babies is that Amiibo are based on pre-existing franchises with varying degrees of fandom. They are just statues or figures of familiar characters, which are only incubating scalpers due to supply constraints in the US due to the port strike. The people who genuinely want those characters aren't going to look back on the figures they purchased at MSRP in disgust.

Beanie Babies, like 90s "Collectors Edition" comics, are things people threw hundreds (in some cases thousands) of dollars acquiring only to have their value to collapse to less than what they paid for the product. They are garbage that are now a burden on collectors who's main goal was future resale. Not to mention the fucking shame that many of us feel for collecting fucking goofy ass stuffed animals.
 
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