Watch the video here
Lots of Trump talking points, lots of defending themselves, not a lot of actual answers, as usual.
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Vice: People outside a Trump rally told us why they hate the media
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Watch the video here
Lots of Trump talking points, lots of defending themselves, not a lot of actual answers, as usual.
Version 3.0
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Because the media doesn't tell them exactly what they want to hear. Duh.
Skellig Gra
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Cedar Rapids you say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfGsngd7cZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfGsngd7cZY
Can we just copy and paste this in every "Trump supporter hot-takes" thread?
This is too difficult for journalists to grasp apparently.
Miles Quaritch
Member
TimsTV.com.
I don't know what to say.
I don't know what to say.
Conciliator
Banned
I thought I might actually learn something, but no...the answer seems to be "we get our information from other media and they tell us to hate the rest of the media"
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Kind of tired of it too. Why do Trump supporters seem to get most of the attention from the media?
WiiredShawn
Member
It's still so stupid to say "we hate the media" when right-wing channels and radio programs dominate the media. There is no leftist equivalent of Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly.
Like, I'm sorry our world isn't The Handmaid's Tale. Maybe stop having terrible ideas and you'll find the media landscape more palatable?
The fact that we're even giving these people this much attention only indicates how much they control the narrative.
Like, I'm sorry our world isn't The Handmaid's Tale. Maybe stop having terrible ideas and you'll find the media landscape more palatable?
The fact that we're even giving these people this much attention only indicates how much they control the narrative.
This. I've seen moderates go off the deep end as of late.
Cabbagehead
Member
Why go to a cult? Cognitive reasoning and logically thinking. Was beat out of them year round, by family and friends including the media. They themsleves consume -wholeheartedly- what is deliberately bias.
Self enflicted cognitive regression. At its worst and most lethal. They really need to investigate the Fox news branch. Lots of madding and ridiculous disinformation being spread. Similar to how russia and other places like's it, placate the sheep.
Self enflicted cognitive regression. At its worst and most lethal. They really need to investigate the Fox news branch. Lots of madding and ridiculous disinformation being spread. Similar to how russia and other places like's it, placate the sheep.
BoosterDuck
Banned
they hate the media (that's not Faux News) because forming rational conclusions from different news sources shatters the realities they live in
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Hate the media bigly. Can't stop watching the media.
Miles Quaritch
Member
It was a cool t-shirt, I'd totally buy one.
It's all he knows how to do.
It's the one thing he liked about the campaign. Having a group of mindless sycophants eat up every word he says without second guessing him.
It's the only thing that cheers him up now because everyone else hates what he's doing and will endlessly criticize his every move (for good reason though).
It's literally a fluffer.
Sounds a lot like something else. Re-rel-religonion? Society has been pushing, almost grooming people to engage critical thought less and less. People simply want to feel comfortable in their ways and be hand fed what to think or do. It's the perfect scenario for cult type or religion influences to take hold. And extremely hard to break those holds when they are in place.
The Lucy style booth is cute. I missed Psychiatric Help 5 cents though
The crowd sounded like a South Park send up of a Trump crowd. I swear the guy shrieking FAKE NEWS sounded like Randy.
The lady complaining about the media being in a bubble has to be an agent sent by the shadowy forces of irony.
The crowd sounded like a South Park send up of a Trump crowd. I swear the guy shrieking FAKE NEWS sounded like Randy.
The lady complaining about the media being in a bubble has to be an agent sent by the shadowy forces of irony.
RPGCrazied
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I don't care why they hate the media. Maybe we should get more interviews why people hate Trumpism and his supporters.
I think major media definitely has a vested interest in attacking Trump. Whatever his ugly qualities, he still shook up the establishment big time with his election win. I honestly take anything that comes out about him with a big grain of salt, because I'm cognizant of how Jeremy Corbyn has been crucified by the UK media here for his anti-neoliberal stance and I can't get annoyed about that without questioning Trump's treatment as well.
Dumb people watch the news too. In fact one could say watching the news helps makes you less dumb. There are other properties that separate Trump voters.
KernelPanic
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Except they are attacking him on dishonesty and other illegal doings. None of these are really up for debate. There's no "opinion" there. Those are facts.
I still stand by the belief that if you have to tell everyone how much you aren't a bigot over and over again then you probably are a bigot.
Again proving how thin their snowflake-like skin really is. They hate the media because the media implies that they are bigoted.
For that one lady at the end of the video: I think it's a growing problem, and one that will only further to grow, of large segments of the population feeling like their people (white conservatives in the midwest) are dying through immigrant population growing, social issues becoming more and more liberal, and what's "in" or correct to be everything they hold dear.
Conservative values are not popular or "correct" in the media, be it television, movies, video games, sports, or anything that was once dominated by them. It's a stark difference, and with Trump the divide between conservatives and liberals will continue to grow, which is not a good thing. Of course, this isn't to say that they're right, or that we need to go back to the old days of doings things (we don't) but a growing divide like this is not a good thing. 40% or so literally feel like they're being eliminated from their own country both economically and culturally (it's bullshit, of course) but that's not healthy for a country.
Conservative values are not popular or "correct" in the media, be it television, movies, video games, sports, or anything that was once dominated by them. It's a stark difference, and with Trump the divide between conservatives and liberals will continue to grow, which is not a good thing. Of course, this isn't to say that they're right, or that we need to go back to the old days of doings things (we don't) but a growing divide like this is not a good thing. 40% or so literally feel like they're being eliminated from their own country both economically and culturally (it's bullshit, of course) but that's not healthy for a country.
BrutishMrFish
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It sounds just like GamerGate. Same distrust of certain media outlets, same obvious basis in bigotry, a lot of the same figureheads.
Funny how some of the same people who saw through the GamerGate cult are making excuses for Trump supporters now.
That's not a remotely fair comparison to Corbyn or our media. The vast majority of the attacks on Trump have been because of something he did or said, whereas the UK media is mostly just making up bullshit about Corbyn. Our media points out the shit that Trump does because it's good for ratings, but they're also willing to forget every shitty thing he's done whenever he gives a half-competent speech, so it's not like they're actively trying to destroy him.
shadowsdarknes
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They hate the media because reality constantly challenges their world views.
It's because they insist on lacking basic empathy for their fellow people. Yeah, alienation is no fun, but when nothing else works to resolve issues of social justice in the country, it's what you have to do.
Cabbagehead
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You can't be serious?
Autodidact
Banned
Journalists, who work for a largely white industry, refuse to believe that those good, salt-of-the earth people in the midwest - you know, people like them - might actually be dumb, reactionary bigots. Therefore, they must visit these people repeatedly, searching for some glimmer of humanity and reason. They can't be that bad, right?
See also those monthly stories where WaPo/NYT visit Nowhere, Idaho, or Bumfuck, Florida.
See also those monthly stories where WaPo/NYT visit Nowhere, Idaho, or Bumfuck, Florida.
The commonly shared trait of whiteness doesn't mean coastal city based, college and graduate school educated journalists see Midwest Trump voters as "people like them".
Quick Edit: If anything, these pieces all tend to have a Civilized Explorer's Journey to a Strange, Backwards, Foreign Land vibe.
Autodidact
Banned
No, but it makes them more inclined to make or find excuses for them. "Their factories closed, they can't be bigots; they feel left behind and that explains their general rancor."
I'm sure, but I think if past presidents had been put under fire and scrutiny so frequently and strongly as Trump has been, there'd be a whole host of less-than-savoury things for them to talk about. Media has an agenda, and Trump's brand of populism runs counter to it -- I don't think Bernie Sanders would be treated any less harshly if he were president, as his brand of populism also runs counter to media's agendas.
Just to clarify, I find Trump repugnant and my beliefs and his are polar opposites. And I'm not suggesting that anything the media are reporting with regards to Trump is untrue, but just that their reporting has underlying motives in service of their owners' interests and the people they're in bed with.
WiiredShawn
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To add to this, let's keep in mind a recent WaPo survey of the rural/urban divide where urban people don't feel as different from rural people, as rural people feel from urban people.
I think we see some of that playing out here: Rural conservatives constantly bemoan the media's mistreatment of them, the death of their cultural values, and how the urban liberals are completely out of touch with them, and then urban journalists come into their towns being all like "Surely these people aren't that different from me. Surely they're just misunderstood."
If rural people took as much time to listen to urban people as urban people listen to rural people, maybe we'd actually make some progress. Rural people don't want to accept that urban people aren't as opposed to them as they think, and urban people don't want to accept that rural people are far more bigoted and ignorant than they want to believe. Generally speaking, of course.
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
Trump humpers hate the media because Fox News and AM radio tell them every day to hate the media.
Reporting the shitty things he does is not attacking him, it's reporting on the shitty things he does. Maybe he should stop doing shitty things.
StrikeNinja24
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It makes him a lot of money to do so.
This sentiment didn't just come out of nowhere. The Right waged war on the media for decades and the country lost. They have told their supporters that the media is the liberal devil out to steal their souls and it's worked beautifully. We now have a press that breaks their neck to appear even handed despite the facts of any situation. (this does not apply to war. The press loves war)
dantevsninjas
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I can save all journalists a lot of time and money over the next four years:
It's because they are willfully ignorant, and they want an excuse to stay that way.
It's because they are willfully ignorant, and they want an excuse to stay that way.
Astral Dog
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This is why Trump NEEDS his Rallies.
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