Vice: "The Matrix is Dated and Embarrasing."

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I wouldn't call it embarrassing, but it certainly doesn't work for me the way it did when I was 17. Part of it is that the action was a victim of its own influence, its techniques being overused, but some of it is poor writing. The love story is underdeveloped, and the ponderous tone everything is given now seems pretty silly.
 
I usually try to respect peoples opinions on media and entertainment but it's really hard to do that when the opinion is SO.FUCKING.WRONG.
 
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Fuck outa here with that shit.
 
I think The Matrix looks certainly dated and I never believed it was as good as some people made it out to be (it was never deep, but unlike its sequels, I don't think it really tried, which is why I think it's supremely better than them).
But that article was quite bad, the argument about "can't make computers are evil movies because facebook" is especially ridiculous. As was the totally random contrasting of Star Wars (which wasn't the first modern blockbuster by the way, that would be Jaws) with Blade Runner

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Dissing RoboCop?
Get the fuck out of here with that crap.
 
I watched The Matrix a couple of months ago for the first time in a long time. The costuming looked pretty dated - all that leather, black vinyl, mirror shades. The soundtrack hasn't held up that well either (although the RATM song over the closing credits still has punch).

I certainly wouldn't call it embarrasing though. Occasionally cheesy, sure, but that's all.
 
This article is a forced and reductionist brick of shit that is all over the place. The ramblings of someone who needs to contrive some sense of generational improvement over seminal works but offers no contemporary paragons to contrast, merely "LOOK GUYS THE 90's ARE OLD LEIK OMGGG"
 
This article is wrong on so many levels. The Matrix is a classic and probably will be for as long as cinema itself is held in high regard. I can see people talking about it 50 and 60 years from now in the same way we do with North by Northwest, Vertigo, Citizen Kane, and so on now. I am not necessarily saying it is the greatest movie ever (far from it), but will hold its place like Blade Runner continues to do so today.
 
I am starting to think Vice if full of shit.

Their whole thing is exploring elements of the news that the mainstream ignores. But in doing so, from what I have seen, they create a story instead of reporting on one.

If you research the origins of Vice it is not about getting to the truth. So they are no better then your basic cable news sources. They simply present themselves as being in the shit, and you see the edited piece a month or more after the actual thing happened. At best they are 60 minutes without a single reliable source to back them up.

They are like those lists of 31 people who are hotter then so and so. Those are the stories they choose, and they create a narrative to make the story work.

I think we are less then a year away from treating Vice below basic cable news.
 
I like how they bash the licensed music, but no mention of Don Davis's fantastic score for the film? It is because they know that they have no leg to stand on in attacking that.
 
Its certainly not the awesome Nokia one from the original. My buddy paid a guy on eBay several hundred dollars for one when it came out, only to find out he couldn't get it activated. Still sweet the way it slid down, though!
 
commedieu said:
... didn't know vice covered this kinda content...
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Didn;t you know, Vice is the new HuffPost?

Everyone know what gets clicks and that is all that matters. For every excellent investigation into Mexican Slumlords, they are going to release an article or list about drivel for the masses.
 
There was like 1 line of actual criticism about the movie. The rest is just making fun of the music and fashion.


The Matrix is singularly great because the character Neo just needs to believe that he can accomplish. Him realizing he doesn't have to think in the constrained fashion of the Matrix's structure is what makes him the hero. He's not some lone figure who stands up to a terrible evil. He's just a man who is told he needs to imagine life without chains and help others see that idea.
 
Vice is getting good at posting annoying shallow shit to get attention from leftists, from "the Matrix sucks" to "San Francisco is a shithole."
 
Ravek said:
Should have been first post.
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There is barely any opinion expressed beyond, "the movie features comical aesthetics from the time." There is nothing to argue with. It's a person who doesn't have the vocabulary trying to explain how the movie is the film version of nu-metal.
 
Someone needs to make a live action version of the Second Renaissance from the Animatrix. That's such an interesting story that I would love to see on the big screen.
 
Vice should really stick to the well-worn genre of "guy with arm tattoos goes to crazy place, can't believe how crazy it is".
 
I can't wait for the Vice article tomorrow.

"Why the Raid 2 is the worst action film of the past 30 years. Worse than Aliens, T2, and Predator, which were shit, as well"
 
recently watched it again when it's on hbo
definitely don't think it's dated nor embarassing

the sequels though, who gives a shit
 
Watched the blu-ray again a couple of months ago, still fantastic.

There is some licensed music but it's mostly scored. The clothing while slick at times employs a lot of uniformed and suit designs for character that really don't age at all for things like business, police, swat, etc attire; heck when they are in the real world it's all worned down so it's not a set time frame. The movie tries to even pinpoint itself to 1999 in regards to The Matrix and it's then current modern tech like cell phones, monitors, digital audio, and yet it frames many scenes without too many hitech gadgets, mostly worned buildings, alleys, the car Neo was picked up was more classical; it made the atmosphere more moody and timeless.
 
C4Lukins said:
I am starting to think Vice if full of shit.
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I personally think it's people who hype Vice too much who are full of shit, or to be blamed for this perception.

They are a group of journalists doing journalism. Nobody is perfect, and at times they are downright unprofessional.

It's always up the viewer to determine how seriously to take anything that is said, and to separate fact from opinion, etc.
 
mac said:
There was like 1 line of actual criticism about the movie. The rest is just making fun of the music and fashion.


The Matrix is singularly great because the character Neo just needs to believe that he can accomplish. Him realizing he doesn't have to think in the constrained fashion of the Matrix's structure is what makes him the hero. He's not some lone figure who stands up to a terrible evil. He's just a man who is told he needs to imagine life without chains and help others see that idea.
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This is a nice analysis.

The Matrix still stands up as a great movie - and its sequels continue to be as trash as when they were first released in the theatres.
 
Man, I really don't care that his message doesn't agree with my opinion (that the first Matrix movie was pretty good) but fuck, I couldn't get past the first two paragraphs before my eyes rolled out of my head at his writing. Dave Schilling is trying way too hard.
 
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