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[andthebeatgoeson]

Anybody seen it? It was all over the news. 3 boys went missing for 2 days in Camden, NJ. Police searched all over, including the car where they were eventually found. Forgot to check the trunk. One of the dads decides to recheck this abandoned car in the yard next to his house. Finds the boys. And it's all caught on tape by Comcast News here in the Philly area. You may think it's strange but I want to see it. I guess kinda for the reaction. Things like this aren't typically caught on camera, I guess. Anybody have a link or have seen it?

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

This is something I truly have no earthly desire to see. There is something much to tragic and frankly ghoulish about the idea.

 

[Wellington]

It was horrifying. Saw it the day of and man that was worse than anything I've ever seen.

 

[Meier]

Why would anyone want to see a video like this? Fucking disgusting man..

 

[belgurdo]

Why would anyone want to see a video like this? Fucking disgusting man..

Curiosity. That said, i want to see it too

 

[Joe]

its a crazy story. i havent seen the video but i saw pictures of cops searching around the car, dusting for prints and all sorts of other shit around the car. CHECK THE TRUNK YOU IDIOTS.

who knows if the kids were alive but near death and could have been saved.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

This is something I truly have no earthly desire to see. There is something much to tragic and frankly ghoulish about the idea.

I know. I have that problem. I'm always looking for those videos where a guy falls off a building or get's decapitated. Or that guy who was kidnapped, forced to rob a bank with a bomb strapped to his body and got blown up. Am I going to hell. I always want to watch those vids.

And FYI, it allegedly doesn't show the bodies but just the reaction of the family.

 

[Deku]

How did the kid get into the trunk? They say it was accidental death. So did the kids go in themselves?

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

I know. I have that problem. I'm always looking for those videos where a guy falls off a building or get's decapitated. Or that guy who was kidnapped, forced to rob a bank with a bomb strapped to his body and got blown up. Am I going to hell. I always want to watch those vids.

I saw the bomb guy. I wasn't ready. If anything that should move New Jersey residents to enact some sort of law to remove abandoned cars from neighborhoods. Not only does it prevent blight (the major benefit) but it can prevent situations like these.

Anyone know how they got in the trunk?

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

its a crazy story. i havent seen the video but i saw pictures of cops searching around the car, dusting for prints and all sorts of other shit around the car. CHECK THE TRUNK YOU IDIOTS.

who knows if the kids were alive but near death and could have been saved.

I've heard that the search started immediately that day. I'm not sure when they checked the car but I wonder if they would have gotten to it within 12 hours or something would they still be alive. They describe the car as being in a lot next door to the house. How do you miss that?

 

[Dram]

did they ever find out who put that bomb on the guy?

 

[evil ways]

The kids and their families were originally from here in Puerto Rico so my local news channel showed the footage lots of times. It's really sad, the way the guy is desperately trying to open the trunk, and as soon as he does and sees the bodies he screams and completely loses it. That's something I wouldn't wish to anybody.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

did they ever find out who put that bomb on the guy?

I know they held some guy as a suspect but, I don't know if they ever charged anyone with that "Saw" type shit.

 

[DCharlie]

On tonights news : more death , more war, more dad's finding dead kids in trunks...

But first... the evils of video games and how violent games such as GTA are spawning a nation of child killers....

 

[Joe]

sorry for the webcam shot but:

thats the cover of the june 26 ny post.

the caption reads: "This cop comes within inches of discovering three kids (left) who suffocated in the trunk of a car she was inspecting a day before their bodies were found."

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

Voyeurism at its worst.

 

[kgHavok23]

sorry for the webcam shot but:

thats the cover of the june 26 ny post.

the caption reads: "This cop comes within inches of discovering three kids (left) who suffocated in the trunk of a car she was inspecting a day before their bodies were found."

ugh....that picture alone makes me depressed and creeped out...I don't know how anyone could watch that video of the dad actually finding the kids

 

[Deku]

Voyeurism at its worst.

Do you still slow down at a car wreck? If you do, then you shouldn't say this.

I think it's simply human nature to want to watch this. Don't condemn people for doing something we all probably do in secret.

 

[Loki]

It was horrifying. Saw it the day of and man that was worse than anything I've ever seen.

Yeah, I saw it on the news that night, too. They put it on with a warning. Very disturbing to see. It's a terrible situation...

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

.

I think it's simply human nature to want to watch this. Don't condemn people for doing something we all probably do in secret.

I know who you are refering to directly and hell I'm the worst voyeur of the class but, I just have no desire to see it.

 

[Blackace]

Do you still slow down at a car wreck? If you do, then you shouldn't say this.

I think it's simply human nature to want to watch this. Don't condemn people for doing something we all probably do in secret.

These are not even in the same ballpark,....these are not even the same game..

 

[Deku]

I don't want to see it myself, but I understand why people want to see such videos.

It's an attraction to tragedy, to death and to suffering that makes lots of underground sites that posts self-censord videos (people jumping out of the towers in 9-11) a hit. I think comparing this video to say, watching an accident on the road is pretty close. It's the same emotional motivations underneath even if the events are dissimilar.

I'm open minded about such tastes, so I'm only saying it's usually very easy to condemn people for wanting to see such things. It's not always evil, simply some people have a stronger desire to see the things all humans probably share.

I'm not interested in an argument. I'm just saying don't be quick to condemn people, when it's a basic human instinct that's been shown we all share. Just look at how many cars slow as they approach an accident site.

 

[Loki]

Anyone know how they got in the trunk?

From what I heard, they were playing hide & seek or some such, and piled into the trunk. The trunk was open, but all of a sudden the rod that props it up gave way somehow, and the trunk closed on them. That's what my sister told me she heard, at least.


EDIT: Blackace, maybe you're misunderstanding-- the video didn't show the children at all, but caught the parents' reaction when they came upon the children. Me personally, I was just watching the news and it came on-- I didn't go out of my way to seek it out or anything.

 

[Joates]

did they ever find out who put that bomb on the guy?

I live in the city where it happened, and Im pretty sure they never charged anyone with it, which is sad that those fucked up people got away with something like that.

 

[Blackace]

I don't want to see it myself, but I understand why people want to see such videos.

It's an attraction to tragedy, to death and to suffering that makes lots of underground sites that posts self-censord videos (people jumping out of the towers in 9-11) a hit.

I'm open minded about such tastes, so I'm only saying it's usually very easy to condemn people for wanting to see such things. It's not always evil, simply some people have a stronger desire to see the things all humans probably share.

fair enough, but I still think it is sad to want to see a father finding his son in the truck of a car... but that's just my opinion..

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

So, I guess all news channels are censoring this, not putting it up on their website. Fuckin pussies replayed the towers falling for 26 hours straight.

 

[Particle Physicist]

The kids and their families were originally from here in Puerto Rico so my local news channel showed the footage lots of times. It's really sad, the way the guy is desperately trying to open the trunk, and as soon as he does and sees the bodies he screams and completely loses it. That's something I wouldn't wish to anybody.

that sounds absolutely horrid. all three kids were in there??

 

[fse]

Maybe the kids were not in the car when they died... and someone put them in after they searched the car

 

[Meier]

Do you still slow down at a car wreck? If you do, then you shouldn't say this.

I think it's simply human nature to want to watch this. Don't condemn people for doing something we all probably do in secret.

That's an absolutely terrible analogy. Why in the world anyone would want to see the sheer anguish and despair of a father finding his kids dead is just beyond me. I honestly dont think it'd be possible to see something more depressing and heart-wrenching. It's like that one fellow who posted about his child dying in the hospital here on GAF.. his name escapes me right now, but would you want to see a video of him finding out the news that his son was dead? The look on his face? Imagine that and magnify it by an innumerable amount.

Honestly, anyone who would want to see this has my most sincere pity because something is seriously, seriously wrong with them if they do.

 

[Deku]

So, I guess all news channels are censoring this, not putting it up on their website. Fuckin pussies replayed the towers falling for 26 hours straight.

They edited the scenes of people jumping too. I think it was in good taste that they don't show this video or the video of people jumping.

The towers falling were more iconic, it was different.

That's an absolutely terrible analogy. Why in the world anyone would want to see the sheer anguish and despair of a father finding his kids dead is just beyond me. I honestly dont think it'd be possible to see something more depressing and heart-wrenching. It's like that one fellow who posted about his child dying in the hospital here on GAF.. his name escapes me right now, but would you want to see a video of him finding out the news that his son was dead? The look on his face? Imagine that and magnify it by an innumerable amount.

Honestly, anyone who would want to see this has my most sincere pity because something is seriously, seriously wrong with them if they do.

It's the same psychological process really. We're all attracted to tragedy.

Sure car wrecks we see are mostly just clean up crews and pieces of the car, but everyone slows down hoping to see more than that. Don't deny this.

Edit: As I've said, I have no interest in seeing the video, but I am open minded about why people want to see it. There are worse fetishes and being indignant about people on-line wanting to see a video like this isn't really helpful, because we all probably harbour secret desires to watch something like this anyways and given the chance to see such footage guiltlessly, most of us would take the plunge.

 

[Blackace]

They edited the scenes of people jumping too. I think it was in good taste that they don't show this video or the video of people jumping.

The towers falling were more iconic, it was different.



It's the same psychological process really. We're all attracted to tragedy.

Sure car wrecks we see are mostly just clean up crews and pieces of the car, but everyone slows down hoping to see more than that. Don't deny this.

I slow down because other people are slowing down... therefore I cannot drive any faster

 

[Error]

The kids and their families were originally from here in Puerto Rico so my local news channel showed the footage lots of times. It's really sad, the way the guy is desperately trying to open the trunk, and as soon as he does and sees the bodies he screams and completely loses it. That's something I wouldn't wish to anybody.

They were from here? that's fucked up man I don't want to see that video just for respect to the family because that's a horrible thing to experience

edit: I'm member? didn't notice

 

[Meier]

I slow down because other people are slowing down... therefore I cannot drive any faster

No kidding. I get delayed 10 or 15 minutes, but never of my own accord.

 

[Deku]

I slow down because other people are slowing down... therefore I cannot drive any faster

So why did the first car slow down? Are you suggesting every first car in the lane is populated by these people that are being condemed for no reason?

Your logic is flawed. The fact that everyone is slowing down probably gives people even more reason to steal a glance at the accident with even less guilt than being the first to slow down.

You're arguing against human nature just because you want to condemn others for asking for some video. I think that's fucked up too and is also human nature to be blatantly hypocritical and take the moral highground.

 

[Blackace]

No kidding. I get delayed 10 or 15 minutes, but never of my own accord.

The worst is when it is just somebody changing a tire safely on the side of the road...

 

[Deku]

The worst is when it is just somebody changing a tire safely on the side of the road...

:lol yes ^^

 

[demon]

The worst is when it is just somebody changing a tire safely on the side of the road...

My dad told me of this one time when traffic slowed to a crawl for fifteen minutes, then suddenly sped up back to normal as soon as he passed some beautiful young woman in a bikini top, sunbathing on the roof of her car. :lol

 

[Blackace]

So why did the first car slow down? Are you suggesting every first car in the lane is populated by these people that are being condemed for no reason?

Your logic is flawed. The fact that everyone is slowing down probably gives people even more reason to steal a glance at the accident with even less guilt than being the first to slow down.

My logic is flawed because I say I really do not want to see people suffering? You are the one who made the statement that all humans have this urge deep down inside them without any proof of what you are saying...(also I do not totally disagree I just think that without some kind of logically proof or even a more sound theory what you are saying cannot apply to all humans) all I said is I don't rubberneck... granted I am a history major and read about wars and death and what not, but I have no desire to see it happen to people.

 

[Deku]

My logic is flawed because I say I really do not want to see people suffering? You are the one who made the statement that all humans have this urge deep down inside them without any proof of what you are saying...(also I do not totally disagree I just think that without some kind of logically proof or even a more sound theory what you are saying cannot apply to all humans) all I said is I don't rubberneck... granted I am a history major and read about wars and death and what not, but I have no desire to see it happen to people.

That's you, and you probably, like me, tell yourself to not look either conciously or subconciously well before the scene.

Your logic is flawed because you argued that the other cars slowing down forced you to drive slow. That's basically arguing the bad apple analogy of one bad /voyeur driver slowing down every upstanding driver behind him. That is clearly not the case.

 

[Blackace]

That's you, and you probably, like me, tell yourself to not look either conciously or subconciously well before the scene.

Your logic is flawed because you argued that the other cars slowing down forced you to drive slow. That's basically arguing the bad apple analogy of one bad /voyeur driver slowing ever upstanding driver behind him. That is clearly not the case.

how is it flawed? I said I slow down because other drivers slow down.. I cannot speak for why the other drivers slow down...just why I slow down. If that is flawed logic than just call me Mister Fallacy... but it really isn't

I don't tell myself not to look or anything I am not really interested... I don't need to tell myself not to look, and hell I might even look... but I would never slow down just to get a look...

 

[Deku]

how is it flawed? I said I slow down because other drivers slow down.. I cannot speak for why the other drivers slow down...just why I slow down. If that is flawed logic than just call me Mister Fallacy... but it really isn't

That is why you slow down. You can't apply it generally to the cars ahead of you or behind you since they will more than likely behave in exactly the same way the will cause everyone else to slow down anyways, regardless of if they want to look or not.

So when you say "i slow down because the cars infront of you slow down" yea it may be true for you, but it has no relevance in this discussion because my point was that people generally slow down to look at such scenes, your argument presume that you're simply a victim of everyone else's bad habits and or voyeurism. It can also be a ready and convenient excuse for a closet voyeur who can then offload his slow driving to the car ahead of him. He or she turns to his passenger (if there are any) and in a morally righteous tone condemn people for being voyeurs.

Hey, I don't know you. You probably really don't want to look. But there are enough hypocrites in this world to point out that condeming people for wanting to watch a video of someone crying over their dead child isn't really as big a moral sin as it's been made out to be, especially when the underlying human motivation to peek or look is a known universal trait. It's not some creepy mental illness　or fetish. That's all I'm defending.

 

[miyuru]

Why would anyone want to see such a video? Perversity of the human mind, that's why.

If I tell you to.....not think of your mom, guess what, you're thinking of your mom aren't you?

It's human nature. Some of you guys are incredibly thick-skulled.

 

[mrklaw]

Watching 9-11 victims jumping from the building, or a car wreck is anonymous. You are detached from the people, and are watching it out of morbid curiosity. They are just lumps of meat in a crude sense.

Watching a dad's reaction on finding his kids dead is way more personal. The dead bodies are no longer just meat, but someones child. Way more close to the bone and I don't think anyone with kids could watch that.


As to how they got in there? Same way kids get stuck in freezers. Curious, somewhere to hide, can't get out.

 

[Joe]

i dont think wanting to see the video is any worse than a thread full of people making jokes of someone dieing in a plane crash.

 

[mrklaw]

i dont think wanting to see the video is any worse than a thread full of people making jokes of someone dieing in a plane crash.

I think it is, for the reasons I stated. plane full of people = objects. Dad's reaction=personal.

Its a little like when you watch a horror movie. Watching someone get their legs pulled off is just odd, because it doesn't resonate with you as real. You are detached from it. But if they poke a needle into someones eye, you wince, because you can relate to it more.

 

[dskillzhtown]

I can understand why someone would want to see it. It is part of the human experience. A part that we personally don't get to experience often, if not ever.

 

[Dragmire]

This brings up a very interesting topic that I'm personally rather troubled with. I've never been even very interested in car wrecks when I drive by them. I don't want to know if someone was badly injured. But occassionally videos like this are talked about on the internet (videos without horrific stuff like death and decapitation, which I couldn't watch), and I have the strongest urge to see it. And I'm ashamed to say that. But part of me is sickened by the thought of seeing it. I don't know if I could do it.

What I'm trying to understand is the reason I even want to see it. I don't know what it is. Truly morbid curiosity? It's definitely not some kind of mental sickness if so many people want to see it. But I want to understand what it is, then. We watch this kind of stuff in movies and on TV all the time. Drama is a huge part of our entertainment. Why is that, and is it wrong? Obviously this kind of thing in particularly is exploitive, but a hell of a lot of what we watch on TV are, too.

For now I know I'm not going to watch it. I feel like karma would dictate that if I did, something similar would happen to me.

 

[OmniGamer]

I'm not sure if these are what you're looking for(not the actual "discovery"), but some of the gut-wrenching reaction from one of the fathers, David Agosto.

http://kyw.com/Local News/local_story_174103452.html

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1119667198699_71/

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3241139

 

[bob_arctor]

It's blowing my mind that they didn't check the trunk. WHAT THE FUCK. Do you need more than one brain cell to know the biggest possible space something can be concealed in a car? In the flicks, do mob guys and serial killers stuff dead bodies in the fucking glove compartment?? ARGH. I'd say the family has a nice lawsuit on their hands but there's nothing nice about burying your child and somehow getting rich as a result.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

It's blowing my mind that they didn't check the trunk. WHAT THE FUCK. Do you need more than one brain cell to know the biggest possible space something can be concealed in a car? In the flicks, do mob guys and serial killers stuff dead bodies in the fucking glove compartment?? ARGH. I'd say the family has a nice lawsuit on their hands but there's nothing nice about burying your child and somehow getting rich as a result.

The kids were probably most likely dead before the police arrived on the scene. Quite frankly the parents are quite lucky they didn't get slapped with a negligance charge.

Tragic situation all around.