Remove the limitations imposed by drag and air density and something can move really, really fast. To put it into perspective, the space shuttle used to orbit the entire planet in 90 minutes. Completely around the globe.
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Virgin Galactic Spaceship has Crashed. AP: one pilot killed, one seriously injured
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Remove the limitations imposed by drag and air density and something can move really, really fast. To put it into perspective, the space shuttle used to orbit the entire planet in 90 minutes. Completely around the globe.
Ether_Snake
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Sure but if what you describe was the actual objective, there would be nothing even close to what Virgin is doing. We'd be trying to put big heavy loads in space for cheap, ideally without using fuel. Probably something like a space elevator that releases the cargo in orbit, then descends in location, ideally without fuel.
You don't pretend to build an hydro-electric dam by first making an elaborate sand castle.
It's again proof of how far we are from where we should be. We're doing shadow puppets to convince ourselves we're in the 21st century; we're not on the space front.
Maninthemirror
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You are adhering to a perversion, You can go anywhere in the universe, point to where earth is and pray or you can do it like you are riding on the bus (unless you are one of those who asks the greyhound bus driver to stop the bus so you can pray in the middle of the highway) . What you think is adhering is you NOT adhering, this is your assumption. its it scientifically impossible NOT to find the direction you want and as someone said its probably even easier in space.
That is not what you defined as Muslim, lets expand on it, thats defining fundamentalist thinking as a Muslim but to each his own.
I think from your phrasing of 'dunya' that you are either from Pakistan or India and like you I am from Pakistan too where you rejected the only science nobel laurette the country has every and probably in the near future will ever produce with that thought process.
Keep and open mind and you will realise your religion doesnt come under threat because you incorrectly assume going to space means you cant pray . wth
You are adhering to a perversion, You can go anywhere in the universe, point to where earth is and pray or you can do it like you are riding on the bus (unless you are one of those who asks the greyhound bus driver to stop the bus so you can pray in the middle of the highway) . What you think is adhering is you NOT adhering, this is your assumption. its it scientifically impossible NOT to find the direction you want and as someone said its probably even easier in space.
That is not what you defined as Muslim, lets expand on it, thats defining fundamentalist thinking as a Muslim but to each his own.
I think from your phrasing of 'dunya' that you are either from Pakistan or India and like you I am from Pakistan too where you rejected the only science nobel laurette the country has every and probably in the near future will ever produce with that thought process.
Why are y'all doin' this in a thread about a spaceship crashing?
Simply Sarah
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Yes, I feel that largely covers much of what has happened with the history of manned space flight: Rush to goal X while in the process basically ignoring how useful the path will be in doing anything other than exactly goal X. Then you hit goal X without actually having set a strong foundation for anything beyond that. That and the entire "Welp, we sure showed those commies! Let's shut it down boys!" from the suits in government.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Shitty news. RIP.
it's disgusting the way certain persons in this topic are using these people's deaths as a vehicle to promote their own agenda, especially when their agenda is directly contrary to what these guys were risking their lives for.
The people preaching the cost of human life don't give a shit about these people who died.
The people preaching the cost of human life don't give a shit about these people who died.
With all of Branson's money, Virgin Galactic still only had one working spaceplane after all this time and bits and pieces of a 2nd one in progress.
They are done. Stick a fork in VG.
Have you ever used a handheld, cordless vacuum cleaner? air cushioned trainers such as Nike Air shoes? Ran a marathon and used one of those weird plastic blankets afterwards? Been on an airport runway? Swallowed a pill with a camera or sensor of some type that the doctor used to diagnose you? Used a personal storm warning system while out on a boat? Ridden an aircraft that has winglets? Fed a child baby food? Had baby food? Know anyone that has ever been on life support? Used an LED? Worn fog/steam resistant goggles, glasses, ski/diving gear? Used a home blood pressure kit? Know any elderly persons who use Lifeline or another personal alarm system like it? Used furniture like mattresses or pillows that have memory foam technology (anything by Tempur-pedic, for instance)? Viewed satellite television, GPS, used a modern smartphone to access the internet from anywhere? Known about a firefighter using a portable respiratory device to go into fires to rescue people or facilitate breathing without hindering their maneuverability?
You can thank NASA. Every one of these inventions, and many, many, many others, were either engineered by, or given their modern designs by NASA which needed to engineer solutions to space-related problems. (Like having mattresses which don't rely upon gravitationally-forced spring compressions)
I don't know what kufr or shirk or salat is, so I'm going to just imagine you're narrating a fantasy novel. It makes more sense than a religious debate in a thread about a crashed spaceship.
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Get that shit out of here.
Darth Pinche
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Can we keep this on topic out of respect for the people who were injured or died?
AtomicShroom
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So much this.
entremet
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I wouldn't say that. Personally I want space travel to continue and I support Virgin's mission. So I'm not the one you're referring to.
However, I do think there is a focus on protecting human life at all cost of late. Mostly due to our relative prosperity. Human life should be protected and defended, however, for any new frontiers there will be sacrifices sometime in human life.
I think since our generation hasn't seen a major global war or huge infrastructure projects, we've become unrealistic at the cost of progress, which sometimes does require human life sadly.
perfectchaos007
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The advancement of commercial space travel just took a step back today. RIP to the pilot, and hopefully the injured pilot makes a full recovery.
Stumpokapow
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Sorry, loon is very disrespectful to people struggling with mental health challenges, and I was raised better than to make fun of that. You're right.
No, the difficulty of space flight does not make me consider the possibility that the moon landing was fake, because the latter is clearly an asinine conspiracy theory not supported by evidence and deeply disrespectful to the many people, including the pilot killed in this crash, who gave their lives to realize space exploration. Because the position that the moon landing did not occur is a marginalized position that has been debunked consistently since 1969 and is typically only held by fringe actors who reject evidence and behave irrationally, I short-circuited into making a crass observation that you were crazy.
You aren't crazy, you're just wrong. Severely.
I've seen you use those terms in another thread. You are essentially saying that she's an infidel and heretic. It's pretty offensive, especially since it is accepted that calling someone a kafir is considered a slur.
Also someone has died in a crash. This person was an astronaught whose job this was someone who is trained and chose to do their job. You have come into this thread with a post implying that the moon landings did not occur. It's offensive to their memory to say such bullshit.
Good god, you're way more than a "loon". You're a disgusting zealot who would use religion to spread ignorance and bigotry.
for people unaware, Malala Yousafzai is the schoolgirl who was shot in the head by the Taliban, yet survived and encourages other women to get an education.
peanutbutterlatte
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I mean the outright kind of stops it being reductive afterwards. "Outright" implies EVERY aspect of space travel. He done goofed.
It's clear the guy needs a time out, but I think we should focus more on the loss of life here. Poor guy.
Once again, I apologize for derailing this thread, this will be my final post.
You're trying to make it seem as though I'm condoning what was done to her, I don't. I despise it.
This doesn't change the fact that Malala Yousafzai has been a vehicle for anti-Islamic sentiments. If she had been injured by a US drone, no one would care about her.
You're trying to make it seem as though I'm condoning what was done to her, I don't. I despise it.
This doesn't change the fact that Malala Yousafzai has been a vehicle for anti-Islamic sentiments. If she had been injured by a US drone, no one would care about her.
Yeah, no wonder you're bailing, you sick fuck. Damn that 17 year old girl for her campaigning for education. As for the anti-Islamic claims, that's the exact same shit the Taliban put out about her:
"We targeted Malala Yousafzai because she attacked Islam and make a jokes on Islam, if we found her again then we would definitely try to kill her and will feel proud on her death. We didnt target her for spreading education in her area, we targeted her for making jokes of Islam, and that was enough reason for attacking her."
I have the deepest respect for people piloting those space ships. They know that -- all things considered -- they're still pioneers of their field and that catastrophe is always a realistic possibility. And yet, they're still facing danger because they believe in the importance of what they're doing. This is also why I think that everyone who tries to use this accident as an argument to stop space travels is unlikely to speak in behalf of the actual victim of this. The company halting the project is likely to be the last thing he would have wanted.
With that being said, rest in peace. This is a terrible accident and tragedy.
With that being said, rest in peace. This is a terrible accident and tragedy.
Whitechocolatekrispies
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*Can a mod just delete the filth coming from Spongebob in this thread?*
I'm pretty sure the last person to die from a space related accident was in 2003. Considering we're almost into 2015, and we have only just lost 1 guy. I'd say we're doing well.
As for Virgin, they won't ever learn anything by getting everything right. This was a big mistake, but it's also a big learning experience for them.
I'd rather fly the guys that know exactly what can happen, what can go wrong and have tested their vehicle enough times to see everything.
CyclopsRock
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To be fair, if they got everything right then they probably wouldn't need to learn anything else. But I agree with you.
Incidentally, Reagan's speech after the Challenger disaster was great and you can more or less swap out the nouns and it's still more or less appropriate.
"We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for their journey and waved goodbye and 'slipped the surly bonds of Earth' to 'touch the face of God.'"
Posts like these are a vehicle for anti-Islamic sentiments.
speculawyer
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speculawyer
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I don't know what they mean either. But if he's gonna bring the jargon, I wish he'd share the definitions with everyone.
What's the source on the LED - NASA connection? I seem to remember being taught about LEDs and their history in school and don't remember any mention of that.
SteveWinwood
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what in the hell happened in here
Art Teitlebaum
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These are terrible news for everyone hoping that space trips could get as casual as air travel today.
(But wtf is this fundamentalist religious thread derailing in here?)
(But wtf is this fundamentalist religious thread derailing in here?)
GoldenEye 007
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Wiki has a page on NASA created or inspired inventions.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies
ThatCrazyGuy
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Sucks a pilot died. RIP. He was contributing to progress, which is awesome.
This is very sad news. My sincere condolences to the pilot who passed away. Hopefully the other pilot makes it through.
As for going off topic, Islam teaches us to explore the world and space: http://www.islam101.com/science/space.html
and something along that I was taught since I was young kid.
As for going off topic, Islam teaches us to explore the world and space: http://www.islam101.com/science/space.html
and something along that I was taught since I was young kid.
This is stupid
There are unlimited amounts of resources in space, investment in technology to be used in space often results applications for everyday products, etc.
Accidents happen, maybe airplanes need to be banned because a plane goes down every once in a while?
Cars should be banned, people die in cars all the time!
2nd space related crash by a private company.
Thanks for the link. That only talks about the plant growth / tumor treatment LEDs. I thought the poster earlier was talking about LEDs in general ("Used an LED").
Sorry for the derail, was just curious about the relation.
Wind's Howling
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Space travel needs to stop? Wtf?
If we do that we can basically stop breeding as a species and just get to the inevitable death of humanity.
Because that will happen if we stop space travel and stay on this rock with the way we are living on it.
If we do that we can basically stop breeding as a species and just get to the inevitable death of humanity.
Because that will happen if we stop space travel and stay on this rock with the way we are living on it.
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