Mel Harris
Vita "hacked," (PSP) homebrew on the way (not piracy)
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Mel Harris
Did you really believe this? The only reason region-locking exists is to control pricing schemes so that local distributors don't feel as though their product is being undermined by a cheaper foreign release. If anything being region-locked should encourage the cracking community to look at a platform.
It sounds like you've already got your answer figured out. As I've said, it was a variety of things that left the PSP without a tonne of success in the west. Part of it was piracy, since hardware was selling, and software wasn't. Part of it was Sony itself, from the marketing painting it as everything and the kitchen sink in your pocket aimed at young adults to abandoning the platform temporarily (prior to the price cut in 2011 I believe PSP had not seen a price reduction since 2007) while they attempted to stop the PS3 from killing the company. Maybe part of it was what I think you wanted to hear, that the platform didn't have the right games that would appeal to the audience in the west that would buy a handheld. But of course, that raises the question of why the hardware was selling if the software wasn't. It was a combination of things, but eliminating one of those makes things better.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Sony needs to release $0.99 games and apps. That's the only way to tackle handheld market. Release cheap games, keep the prices low. iPhone titles need releasing on Vita. $40 is too much of a bang for those looking for small bursts.
Well, DS cart was basically an SD card. So no real modification was necessary to create R4.
Of course if someone else has different proof then I'm happy to be educated.
Alex
Member
The DS missed out on a lot of localizations as well. It's the type of software, it's not the piracy, I mean the piracy hurts but it hurts every platform, it's not the murderer of the PSP or the Vita. The very niche scope of the PSP/Vita in an already extremely thin market is what does it in.
I mean, you have people screaming at pirates for blocking the apparently sure-fire localizations of physical-only JRPG's that'd likely go on to sell 10k copies?
Hell, I'd almost blame the people shouting "UMD OR NO BUY" in topics as much as I would pirates who don't seem to understand that these things don't fucking sell here even on platforms suited to our bulk tastes.
I'd straight up buy one for use as a Super PSP if they could get that working. I don't really care so much about homebrew for the Vita because it's not saddled with the same qualms I had with the PSP but for full backwards compatibility with a second stick to map to, I'd be all over that.
Until that happens or some PSP styled Japanese rebirth, I'll stick to my Go.
She's in Stargate SG-1. Oma-de-sala. You don't want to know who she is because it spoils a lot of the story.
If you haven't seen Stargate in it's entirety, you're reallyyyyyyyyyyyyy missing out.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I must have misread but the same thing applies to when it was compromised completely. That came in steps though. I stand by what I said though. When it happened, you were one of the minority who used it for legit cause.
thehypocrite
Member
Gaf overreactions are fun to see. This means nothing in regards to piracy.
Thank you !
Yes... but it's interesting to see people's reaction anyway.
I wasn't making an argument about whether people were pirating or not, though. Maybe you're so used to defending that talking point that you just saw a couple of key words and started firing? I honestly have no idea how else you would think I was saying anything about that otherwise. Please go back and read my posts again.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
You said the price dropped and it hasn't. Each store can offer their own price. One store could sell it for $10 but MSRP is still $99. By then, people could use 64gig cards that aren't even offered right now and carry their entire Vita collection that they bought with them on one card.
Show me where I said price drop below:
You can get 32Gb for $80 today. Some got it cheaper.
We will have to wait longer for any memcard adaptor not sanctioned by Sony.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Homebrew = yay
Piracy = boo
The Vita is too young for this. If people start pirating this early, third-party developers have no chance on the Vita. That would SERIOUSLY suck.
Please no piracy... please no piracy... please no piracy... Bahhh....
Piracy = boo
The Vita is too young for this. If people start pirating this early, third-party developers have no chance on the Vita. That would SERIOUSLY suck.
Please no piracy... please no piracy... please no piracy... Bahhh....
Nope~ Probably no effect whatsoever coz the exploit is not deep enough. May be generate more traffic and awareness for Vita.
They're way ahead of you. They announced PS Mobile at the same conference they announced Vita. Should be out soon.
DragonSworne
Banned
Hack it so I can use the built in flash for saves and I'm in.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Wait - what's this? So, the Vita wasn't hacked? Or wasn't *significantly* hacked?
What does this mean?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
You're right, I was being selective with your words. Only because I wanted to touch on specific parts of them. This is really not as important to me to be more concise than that.
As far as defending, I don't know how to answer that. I know I don't want to see the system fade further. Especially before it gets a proper price cut and a good number of system sellers under its belt. This just feels like it's undercutting it. That's if it's hacked to the point of running basically "iso's".
I don't have anything to defend. I'm not being some Sony loyalist by wanting to see the system not get hacked to hell and back like PSP. I think it's more wrong for some to falsely use homebrew as a means to pirate. Not that anyone here would admit that since that's forbidden. I simply don't believe every single one who says it's only for homebrew is telling the truth. You can't really pick apart bad apples from plain internet text. I've studied too much human behavior to not be suspect but that doesn't mean I'm going to start accusing for no reason. That isn't worth the time or effort. This games thing is not that serious a business to me.
But don't let my vigorous stance make you think for a moment that I'm some company defender. This would apply to any HW that I have investment in. 3DS, consoles, PC (to a far lesser extent but that's another conversation).
Well, same here! It would be cool to have some other apps that Sony or certain companies don't want to really invest on with Vita. iheardradio comes to mind.
staticneuron
Member
You don't understand how this works? If the console sells much greater than the software, then it is only bad news for the Vita. Bad news for people who love to see work from industry professionals who will create high quality games for the hardware. Great news for people who would like to play emulators and custom software on yet another device.
JordanLMiller
Member
Could be cool (gba emulator?), but can't Sony just issue an update or something to patch whatever exploit was used? I have no idea about hacking so maybe that question is dumb.
Byronic Hero
Member
From one hell to another, possibly hotter one.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41797029&postcount=384
Based on the updated info ? It's unlikely to make much impact except for educational and self-expression purposes.
PSP.
phosphor112
Banned
Yep. I want more games to come out for this, but if they can get past the DRM and get pirated games going, it'll kill the Vita.
To Far Away Times
Member
Sweet. Considering the state of software on the Vita, I'm pretty much never going to buy one, but if it could have a thriving homebrew scene like the PSP and be a portable emulator system, then I'm in.
MisterC20XX
Member
zerokoolpsx
Member
No access to kernel. Oh well. It happened before the 3ds. At least the Vita is getting some attention now.
Expect a new patch to close whatever exploit they found asap.
Expect a new patch to close whatever exploit they found asap.
Doesn't bother me though.yn-neko hates a cat
Banned
The hardware may sell but if no software sells then how fucked is Sony? How can people do this to a company they want to succeed?
staticneuron
Member
The PSP's hacking issues were more pronounced later on in its life not really overwhelming at launch at as of 2011 fiscal report the hardware was at 76.3 million while the software was at 330.2 million. That is a ratio of 4.3 which is not bad considering the NDS by 2011 fiscals had a ratio of 5.9.
I don't have all the numbers for Vita but it is not looking so rosy from what I have seen. Maybe this will change by the end of the year. Games people actually want to play will be released in October for most regions.
People only really care about themselves. The gamers that are worried about this, aren't worried about sony per say but more about the support for the console they have purchased. People who care about homebrew only care to the extent that they can acquire the hardware. People that care about both sometimes end up purchasing 2 consoles and feel ok because they get the best of both worlds.
Yeah, this will sell me on a Vita if it comes true.
This. The PSP's killer app was Monster Hunter - a game whose defining feature was really only usable in urban Japan. A ton of the best games on PSP (and even DS) followed after MH and it made for a whole software library that just wasn't compatible with too many audiences outside of Japan.
It's really a microcosm of the whole problem with dedicated handhelds.
DiscoJer
Member
If that's the case, then why are so many people just so eager to play decades old console games on a handheld then?
Current era console style games bad, old console games good?
Schobeleth
Member
This. Everyone is overreacting, unless they fully blow it open like they did with the PSP... I mean, I don't like it, stuff like this just leads to piracy no matter how much you hit people over the head with HOMEBREW! HOMEBREW! It just doesn't validate the argument against piracy IMO.
I hope Sony fixes the exploit they're using :\ I want more good games on Vita, there are lots coming and I don't want to see it die. It's a wonderful handheld.
As far as I know, the mods don't look kindly on comments like these. I'd edit it if I were you.
The way it's selling, it would have been dead within the fiscal year anyway, homebrew or no, piracy or no.
GoofsterStud
Member
Can't wait... Well make the vita purchase finally worth it.
I would love custom shaders for psx/n64 emulation. <3
Oh and video support!!!! I can't wait.
I would love custom shaders for psx/n64 emulation. <3
Oh and video support!!!! I can't wait.
Callibretto
Member
I was hoping ps mobile is there to hold off hacker because it give them alternative where they can make legit homebrew stuff. maybe mobile isn't coming fast enough? I hope this exploit did not happen because of ps mobile. that'd be sucked for Sony big time, provide alternative for homebrewer, and then they use that to hack even further to possibly lead to piracy...
And I just bought a Vita based on possibilities like this.
Patches are optional doe.
Patches are optional doe.