GillianSeed79
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FleckSplat said:Welcome to Thaw Land.
Iceland is green one. Greenland is the one with all the ice.
FleckSplat said:Welcome to Thaw Land.
Chittagong said:F***, I'm stuck in Finland with no way out of this god forsaken country and back to UK until Sunday at the very least. Getting ridiculously drunk is a fairly likely course of action.
cloudwalking said:i'm doing cork > amsterdam > zürich. cork is open... for now. amsterdam is the problem it seems. zürich never closed yet. so perhaps i can reroute my flight from cork somehow, but i don't know. it's such a small airport. and i don't want to just leave and then and up and have to get stuck in amsterdam.
Het Nederlandse luchtruim blijft voorlopig gesloten vanwege de aswolk uit IJsland. Hoe lang dat het geval blijft, is nog onduidelijk.
Uit voorzorg hebben de KLM en Transavia alle uitgaande en inkomende vluchten geannuleerd. De KLM houdt zijn vliegtuigen tot zeker 14.00 uur aan de grond, Transavia zal op z'n vroegst om 16.00 uur weer vliegen.
mrklaw said:The worst part is the rolling aspect. Makes it difficult to go 'fuck it, ill go somewhere today' in case you get a sudden call from the airline
I'm supposed to be flying to Finland on Monday but Even if the flight goes ahead I don't fancy it in case the eruption gets worse again, or that other volcano blows.
GasProblem said:Yeah, don't know if I still want to go to New York right now. Don't want to get stuck there in case the volcano keeps spewing ash clouds.
UnluckyKate said:This volcano made a cloud so big, that air traffic has been shut down over europe since yesterday.
I going to Tokyo in 9 hours, THEY BETTER BE MAKING PLANES FLIGH AGAIN
Subliminal said:whats the chance that it will start snowing ash in the south of england?
gofreak said:Low I'd imagine. Pressure is high. If there was a low pressure or it started raining you might get some deposits while the ash is overhead (though they'd probably be very thin).
Subliminal said:that's no fun
A spokesman for Cork Airport has said that while the airport remains operational, no flights are due to arrive or leave there today because of the closure of airspace and airports elsewhere.
Airspace over Cork is also expected to be restricted later today as the plume of volcanic ash moves over the south of the country.
jepense said:Weird that there is so little discussion about this considering it is one of the most important events of the year so far (even though the effects are mostly in Europe). Also, the thread title doesn't really fit anymore...
gofreak said:Yeah, the thread title I think is leaving many non-euros out of the loop
Just watching the weather forecast - could be pretty touch-and-go for UK/Ireland over the weekend. If the forecast panned out and the volcano keeps erupting it wouldn't be very good for these areas...a direct airflow from Iceland is forecast to swing much closer to the british isles in that time.
Unknown Soldier said:So when is Michael Bay going to make a movie about this?
gofreak said:Paris is opening 3 airports for landings only in a four hour window this afternoon.
http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=1229050&lang=eng_news
Kind of sounds like they're trying to accommodate the return of stranded passengers from routes that can avoid the dust (i.e. probably ones coming from the south).
mrklaw said:that doesn't sound that safe? How can the air be clear for four hours, but not clear afterwards? I thought the ash was difficult to track that accurately? Although understandable about bringing people home at least
The airlines need to have their planes in certain places so they can't just fly wherever. They would also need time to replan and schedule everything, so for now it's better for them to just wait and hope the eruption ends quickly. Also, you can't divert a great percentage of the northern European traffic to south without completely jamming the airports with the extra flights. Individual passengers can of course always reroute themselves. I guess it depends on the airline and local legislation on how much the companies need to financially help that. (I would imagine not much more than refund the original ticket, since natural disasters are considered force majeure.) Plus, ferries and trains are most likely packed also.mrklaw said:Is it stupid to even consider alternative routes? Surprised the airlines aren't trying that.
eg flying into southern europe? From there you could get a train to the rest of europe. I'm looking at 10 days until my family are back with me now, they'll be missing school and everything
Finnish fighter jets which flew through the volcanic dust covering much of Europe suffered damage and the air force warned Friday the cloud could have a significant impact on planes.
The air force F-18 Hornet jets were on training flights in northern Finland on Thursday morning, when airspace was still open, and the engines were later found to contain fine, volcanic ash dust.
"Based on the pictures, it was discovered that even short flights in ash dust may cause significant damage to an airplane's engine," the Finnish Defence Forces said in a statement.
Images taken inside one Hornet engine with a fibroscope camera indicated that the heat of the engine around 1,000 degrees Celcius had melted the ash inside the engine, blocking ventilation channels.
"Blockages of ventilation channels caused by melting ash lead engine components to overheat and material to weaken," it said, adding this could fracture rotating engine parts.
gofreak said:If you look at the VAAC forecast gif from the UK met office you can see how the likes of paris and manchester airports might have landing windows:
Seems rather borderline...though they'd have more up to date info than we have, but you can see the general shift of the dust and the openings for some places that appear and disappear...
gofreak said:Also, might be relevant to cloudwalking, although they're probably already aware:
:| Hope you get out of there sometime soon cloudwalking.
Chittagong said:F***, I'm stuck in Finland with no way out of this god forsaken country and back to UK until Sunday at the very least. Getting ridiculously drunk is a fairly likely course of action.