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Volkswagon Eos: Hot

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Doth Togo

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A Golf V/Jetta V-based folding hard-top convertible. Powered by either a 200hp 2.0T FSI or a 250hp 3.2l VR6 FSI for the U.S. market. Arrives in May of 2006 on the North American continent and is expected to be priced just below $30,000.

This is a segment in Europe occupied by the Peugeot 307CC and the new Volvo C70. The Eos has transparent tinted roof panels that fold in three sections and include a sunroof. Engines include both 4-cylinder turbo and a VR6 offering several levels of power. With good looks and a decent level of practicality, the Eos is a well executed alternative.

To ensure that driving the convertible functions as perfectly as the Eos looks, its beautiful body conceals all manner of innovative drive train technology. In detail, this encompasses four petrol engines with outputs ranging from 85 kW / 115 PS, 110 kW / 150 PS and 147 kW / 200 PS to 184 kW / 250 PS plus a 103 kW / 140 PS TDI equipped with a diesel particulate filter as standard. Four-cylinder direct injection engines are fitted to provide outputs up to 147 kW, whilst the 184 kW variant derives its power from six cylinders. All of the engines are powerful. Two initial examples of the Eos' performance: The Eos 2.0 FSI, which offers 110 kW of output, reaches a top speed of 209 km/h and accelerates to 100 km/h in 9.8 seconds. In the turbocharged version, the Eos 2.0 Turbo-FSI, the top speed climbs to 232 km/h; this Eos reaches a speed of 100 km/h after just 7.8 seconds. The Eos 3.2 V6 reaches 248 km/h, accomplishing the classic 0-100 km/h sprint in a mere 7.3 seconds. The Eos 3.2 V6 is shifted as standard via the already legendary double-clutch gearbox DSG - an automated direct-shift gearbox. This will be optionally available for the Eos 2.0 Turbo-FSI (147 kW) and Eos 2.0 TDI (103 kW). All of the gearboxes fitted in the Eos transmit their power to the front axle via six forwards gears.

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The last time I bought a VW (Turbo Beetle), everyone made fun of me for buying a "gay car", then I proceeded to get 5 flat tires over a period of 6 months (I have never had a flat tire before then, nor since then) as the tires resembled overfilled baloons, and - the absolute killer for me - the clutch and flywheel both blew out after 17,000 miles (and I had two standards before owning my Beetle, and never had a single clutch problem). And - since the clutch and flywheel are technically "wear items" - this cost me $1,700 out-of-pocket to fix.

Absolutely unacceptable. I took a $5,000 hit just to get rid of the thing.....

So - I don't care if this car is hotter than the sun - there's no way I would even consider it....
 
I had a Jetta, worst piece of crap I ever owned. One thing after another broke on that thing. I'll never buy another VW again.
 
RonaldoSan said:
VW cars sold in US are assembled in Mexico or something right?
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The Jetta certainly is. i was set on getting one until i read reports and heard from numerous owners just how problematic they were.
 
RonaldoSan said:
VW cars sold in US are assembled in Mexico or something right?
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The Jetta Wagon, Passat, Touareg and Phaeton are assembled in Germany. The rest of the U.S. lineup is assembled in Mexico. There's a big difference in build quality between Mexico and Germany. My Passat is as reliable as my old Honda Accord and I'd buy another VW in a heartbeat. If it was built in Germany, that is. ;)
 
Hmm is this a convertible version of an upcoming hardtop that I saw in a mag a bit back? It was a very coupish looking 4-door IIRC... similar to the Benz... crap I just cannot remember what mag it was....
 
I drove several VWs in the past years (for my company and private) and only once had a smaller problem with one of them. Maybe VW has really some quality difficulties in Mexico, I don't know.
The Eos seems to be nice thoguh, but I wouldn't call it 'hot'.
 
DarienA said:
Hmm is this a convertible version of an upcoming hardtop that I saw in a mag a bit back? It was a very coupish looking 4-door IIRC... similar to the Benz... crap I just cannot remember what mag it was....
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Mercedes has the CLS. VW is making a Passat-Plus 4 door coupe situated between the Passat and the Phaeton. Some guesses as to what it will look like...

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Porsche is making a 4 door coupe as well. The Panamera is scheduled for 2009.

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Doth Togo said:
Mercedes has the CLS. VW is making a Passat-Plus 4 door coupe situated between the Passat and the Phaeton. Some guesses as to what it will look like...
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Yup, knew about the CLS and the Porshe... thanks for confirming the Passat Plus... can't remember what mag I saw it in but the damn photo looked really nice. I don't remember it being tagged as a concept vehicle, but since I can't find much reference elsewhere I guess it was a concept and/or mockup.
 
Doth Togo said:
The Jetta Wagon, Passat, Touareg and Phaeton are assembled in Germany. The rest of the U.S. lineup is assembled in Mexico. There's a big difference in build quality between Mexico and Germany. My Passat is as reliable as my old Honda Accord and I'd buy another VW in a heartbeat. If it was built in Germany, that is. ;)
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Yeah, the general rule of thumb with VW is that you stay very far away from the cars made in the Mexico plant(s). Which begs the question: Where is the Eos going to be manufactured?
 
I have a 2003 VW Jetta and there have only been two problems that needed fixing since we got it in August of 2002 - the remote keyless entry was on the fritz (circuit replaced and has worked fine since) and the stereo just stopped work (replaced under warranty). Otherwise the car has been perfect. VW is currently the only car company I'd purchase a vehicle from again. Wonderful customer service to boot.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
volkswagon=girls car. I don't think i've ever seen a dude driving a beetle or a Jetta.
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There are other VWs besides the Jetta and the New Beetle.

As for the Jetta, I'd take a Jetta Wagon TDi GLS any day of the week. 50mpg with a diesel engine that can run biodiesel? This'll own a hybrid any day of the week. Why? Because it runs on corn oil, not gasoline. No need for gas anymore. Hybrids can't do that.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
volkswagon=girls car. I don't think i've ever seen a dude driving a beetle or a Jetta.
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I have. But usually they have bumper stickers that say stuff like "freedom to marry", or are rainbow flags.


And no, I'm not trying to be funny or anything. That's the honest truth. I remember reading somewhere that the Jetta was the most popular "gay car."
 
Error Macro said:
I have. But usually they have bumper stickers that say stuff like "freedom to marry", or are rainbow flags.


And no, I'm not trying to be funny or anything. That's the honest truth. I remember reading somewhere that the Jetta was the most popular "gay car."
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:lol I was curious whether the back length light on the Eos lit up in a rainbow color. I've never known a straight guy with a beetle or jetta, either.

I still like many of their cars, but everyone I know that's had one has had many mechanical problems so the hearsay has made me gunshy of their quality.
 
raYne said:
For future reference.

Hot.
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Not.
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That seems totally arbitrary. The cars are very similar in appearance, and the idea of a four-door Porsche "coupe" seems nearly sacreligious. You're going to have to explain this one, because I'm not seeing enough "hot" about the Porsche or "not" about the VW concepts.
 
AlphaSnake said:
VWs are for guys. Gay guys that is:

http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Gay-Lesbian/gay-guy1.html

http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Gay-Lesbian/gay-chick1.html
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I have met dozens of VW owners personally. This is not an exaggeration. Some are gay. Some are young. Some are old. Some are single, some married. Some are men, some are women. Some are wealthy, some barely able to make their car payments, some are somewhere in the middle. They come from all walks of life, all interests, and include high school and college students, preachers, lawyers, IT and programmer types, administrative assistants, executives, entrepreneurs, postal carriers -- you name it.

In short, you -- and the Car Talk guys -- are fucking idiots.
 
someone owns a jetta!

j/k but it's a widely held stereotype that they are a swishy car. It doesn't mean it's true. (ie. it's true)
 
SteveMeister said:
I have met dozens of VW owners personally. This is not an exaggeration. Some are gay. Some are young. Some are old. Some are single, some married. Some are men, some are women. Some are wealthy, some barely able to make their car payments, some are somewhere in the middle. They come from all walks of life, all interests, and include high school and college students, preachers, lawyers, IT and programmer types, administrative assistants, executives, entrepreneurs, postal carriers -- you name it.

In short, you -- and the Car Talk guys -- are fucking idiots.
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Either:

A) You're a closet homosexual and this offended you.
B) You own a VW and this offended you.
C) You're openly homosexual and this offended you.
D) It's that time of the month.


Here's a hint: Chill the fuck out.
 
AlphaSnake said:
Either:

A) You're a closet homosexual and this offended you.
B) You own a VW and this offended you.
C) You're openly homosexual and this offended you.
D) It's that time of the month.


Here's a hint: Chill the fuck out.
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Yeah, that was harsh. What I SHOULD have written was that if you actually BELIEVED that, then you are a fucking idiot.

I've owned VW New Beetles since they were introduced in 1998, and been very active in the owner's community for much of that time including organizing club events and car shows. Currently, I own a 2004 New Beetle Convertible, and my wife of nearly 13 years drives a 2001 New Beetle diesel.
 
Doth Togo said:
Do you talk like this to people in person?
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Obviously. Is there a reason I wouldn't? So I'm guessing you don't know what it means then?.. heh.

That seems totally arbitrary. The cars are very similar in appearance, and the idea of a four-door Porsche "coupe" seems nearly sacreligious. You're going to have to explain this one, because I'm not seeing enough "hot" about the Porsche or "not" about the VW concepts.
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They are? I'd have to disagree.

The front of the VW totally doesn't go with the lines of the car. So much so that is doesn't even look like it's supposed to be there (ie bad photoshop). The vehicle is rounded while the front is angular. If they softened the lines a bit in the front it would look a lot better, but as it stands... ugh. It also doesn't help that the headlights themselves, which are really what defines any car, are also ugly.. :/

I don't like the idea of a 4-door Porsche either. Porsche is a sports car company in my mind and 4-doors aren't exactly synonymous with sports cars. To be honest I don't like the Cayenne or most up their fairly recent designs either which includes the Boxter (It doesn't help that the guy across the street from me has a Cayenne so I get to critique it everyday... lol). The only attractive Porsche for a while has been the 911 (especially since they've gone back to rounded headlights) and now the Carrera GT.

Anyhow, the Porsche on the otherhand the headlights and front bumper compliment the car totally. They look like they were designed with the car and not an afterthought. Looking at it from the front you can see how the lights go with the bumper and they both blend with the vehicle.

I admittedly have a more aesthetic eye than most, but honestly they're far from similar.
 
Oh yeah, there was a VW parked out in front of the teacher's association building down the street with a rainbow sticker on the back, and the license plate said 'ECOPHAG.' Seriously now, how the hell can they get away with that?
 
Meh. I've had a '99 Jetta since, well, '99 with almost 50,000 miles on it, and it still runs just fine. And I've never really had a major problem with it before. Just typical wear and tear sort of stuff.

It's not the greatest car in the world, but I like the feel of how it drives, it's never really let me down before (I've been hit by an SUV in it once before...my car was absolutely fine while the SUV was totally smashed in), and it gets fantastic gas milage, so I'm fine with any of its faults, including its perceived gayness.

Besides, when I got my car, everybody and their mother was driving VWs anyway (at least they were in New Jersey), so there must have been a really big surge of "gay" in the late '90s. :D
 
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