Never bern may not be a thing before but it could crop up next time if dems saw the last election as a result of neverhillary. The purity test may be applied to him this time.
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Vox: Bernie Sanders is the Democrats real 2020 frontrunner
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Never bern may not be a thing before but it could crop up next time if dems saw the last election as a result of neverhillary. The purity test may be applied to him this time.
Justin Bailey
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He's not too old. If he runs in 2020 he's got my vote.
DrROBschiz
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No thanks
He did a good job but we need a new champion
I love the idea of Kamala Harris running but the opposition will be very fierce and nasty
Our country hates women apparently
He did a good job but we need a new champion
I love the idea of Kamala Harris running but the opposition will be very fierce and nasty
Our country hates women apparently
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Because they can't? Suppose Corbyn found some promising person who wanted to be an MP, and we're still in 2006, 2007. Corbyn gets on well with this person, thinks they're bright stuff, tells them to run to be an MP, wants them to be a protege. This person puts in their application to Labour selection committee... and gets rejected, because there is a Blairite candidate and the selection committee is filled with Blairite politicians. What was Corbyn supposed to do?
Warren being 72 is the one that surprised me
I like the idea of Kamala Harris running. As a former prosecutor i feel like she can put Trump in his place.
I don't see anyone doing it in this thread, but the vitriol Bernie got during the later stages of the primaries on GAF was incredible.
what?
Albino_Yeti
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Ah yes, Bernie "if you're white you don't know what it's like to be poor" Sanders.
No thanks.
No thanks.
Father_Brain
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Polling consistently shows that anti-Sanders Democrats are much like #NeverTrump Republicans - they effectively don't exist outside of various online, media, institutional, and elite bubbles.
Obviously, one can't and shouldn't extrapolate too much from favorability polling - Sanders having extremely high favorability doesn't necessarily mean that he would win the 2020 primary, or that he should necessarily be the nominee. But the anti-Sanders vitriol is not even remotely representative of how the party rank and file sees him.
Red Blaster
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homeboy here sez bernie should quit politics to 'focus on himself' and that he'd prefer more trump over him
DrROBschiz
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After watching how she went in during the hearings I feel like she has enough fire in her belly
It just sucks that we know what is coming from the extremist opposition
There needs to be a real fight for decency in this country
Why not flip it, and make him the VP? Harris/Sanders 2020.
RustyNails
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His age is not my biggest worry, but he wont be able to govern. His ideas on scrapping Obamacare and redoing everything from scratch, 15/hr mandated minimum wage, free college for all are not feasible. Its just not pragmatic.
Doominated
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The absolute only reason him being 78 wouldn't be a big deal would be that trump would be 74, so it's not like he's that much older than who he's running against.
The democrats would be better served to find a young 35-45 year old person who can be a Bernie clone. The problem is they'd have to get Bernie to work with them and be with them a lot to actually foster that connection. Keep in mind Bernie didn't identify as a democrat until fairly recently.
The democrats would be better served to find a young 35-45 year old person who can be a Bernie clone. The problem is they'd have to get Bernie to work with them and be with them a lot to actually foster that connection. Keep in mind Bernie didn't identify as a democrat until fairly recently.
LegendofLex
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I voted for him in the primaries last year, but after seeing how he ran his primary campaign and evaluating his performance, definitely no for 2020.
hobblygobbly
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I understand that but the U.S isn't a monarchy or military dictatorship and should be able to deal with the death of a head of state/head of government (combined positions in your case) since all democratic systems in countries prevent any sort of weird power vacuum concerning succession. There is the vice president and more measures in place concerning succession after that. You are voting for the Vice President as well, the death of the president should not disrupt the foundation.
Granted the issue with Nixon and Agnew with Ford succeeding as someone holding office without a mandate, but this is not the same issue that arises from this particular issue, that was an anomaly.
I know that the president has more power as a single person than other countries but your other arms of government still operate, if someone is healthy to be elected for office then I don't understand the problem of having someone do their work while they hold office.
I find it weird how people are afraid of voting for someone based on their age in a democratic system because they're afraid what the death of a head of state and government will bring.
Yeah cuz picking a "pragmatic" candidate worked so well last time.
Synless
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You like other posters who have quoted me are making an assumption that he has those issues. If he doesn't, then it doesn't matter if he's older. If he falls under the appropriate age requirements then he's good to go. And I wasn't addressing people who at least try and make a point as to why like you, but the ones who are just saying he's too old, no thanks.
She could also drive the Obama-level turnout that negated the Rust Belt factor in 08 and 12. Appealing to that group seems to be a losing proposition for the Democratic Party going forward. It will come around when it realizes the GOP will never bring its jobs back. In the meantime, Dems would be better served to stop chasing that group and encouraging other groups to turn out instead. Fostering a growing base has got to be better than convincing a dying one to ignore Fox News rhetoric.
Because when a president gets sick, the staff covers it up. It happened with Reagan. It's happening w/ Trump now.
Angelus Errare
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I mean this was known since forever.
shawnbuddy
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This'd give us a guaranteed Trump second term.
GOP don't seem to care much about pragmatism.
PantherLotus
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By orders of likelihood:
Biden > Bernie > Franken > Warren
welcome to the desert of the real.
Biden > Bernie > Franken > Warren
welcome to the desert of the real.
SolidSnakex
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By having someone that actually inspires and motivates the youth to get out to vote?
You do that by running a young candidate!
UnemployedVillain
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Elizabeth Warren: I don't want to run for President. I think I'm better served as a Senator
People who always bring her up: Fuck what you want! You're running!
shawnbuddy
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By having someone who'd motivate older white people to hold their nose and vote Trump to save the Republic from Communism, while the young people flake and older minorities just stay home.
America is the richest country in the world and health care, a decent wage and education are apparently too much to ask for.
Netherscourge
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Is Howard Dean politically relevant anymore?
I really liked him, despite the ridiculous uproar over his campaign battle-cry.
I really liked him, despite the ridiculous uproar over his campaign battle-cry.
I'd honestly be cool with Biden or Franken running.
In a post-Trump world it's weird that Howard Dean's one campaign battle-cry was enough to sink his campaign.
jack_package_200
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Guy is a bit too old fam.
Just accept that 2020 dem primary will be a field of new fresh candidates that we can't completely predict.
Just accept that 2020 dem primary will be a field of new fresh candidates that we can't completely predict.
Kamala Harris 2020
n00bsauce87
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Someone should just tell him he'd be better as a Kingmaker. Please stop with this narrative.
Theonik
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If Reagan could do it!
Ziltoidia 9
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Biden will be like 79 in 2020 too.
Either way, who ever is the nom next time around, Bernie is going to play a big part in it.
Either way, who ever is the nom next time around, Bernie is going to play a big part in it.
IIRC it was sinking before that happened.
(Reagan literally couldn't do it!)
friskykillface
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Bernie hype
He's gonna be old af though, so I'd say no thanks to him running.
He's gonna be old af though, so I'd say no thanks to him running.
Trump's issues have nothing to do with his age lol.
yes, probably by undermining them at every turn
Angelus Errare
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Biden being front runner would be the most depressing shit ever.
I'm less worried about a president dying from Alzheimer's than I am of them governing with it.
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