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Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine Master Crafted Edition Official Trailer - June 10th - PC/Xbox/GamePass (Remaster of 1st Game)
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RiccochetJ
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Happy to see this and will have a great time with another playthrough. I was sad that the original game wasn't on the backwards compatibility list. Wonder if they will have MP or if it's just the campaign.
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Yeah, kind of a weird omission. The original game was on PS3, too.
Topher
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Probably another Game Pass timed exclusive
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Game Pass wouldn't make Sega not put it on other consoles, Soul Hackers 2, Persona 3: Reload, the side story Yakuza game were also on GP day 1.
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DeepEnigma
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Topher
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A game can still have a timed exclusivity deal with or without Game Pass. More than likely, that's what this is. Makes no sense otherwise.
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Warhammer 40k Space Marine gets "a thoughtful restoration" in new, 4K edition
Warhammer 40k Space Marine is getting a new Master Crafted Edition packed with visual upgrades, an Ork rework, and modernized controls.
www.pcgamesn.com
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Topher
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What changed with the orcs in recent 40k lore?
intbal
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::insert AI image of purple mohawked trans ork::
Trogdor1123
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If I had to guess it would be with the narrative that came in the books recently? They have added a fair bit to the orcs in the last 15 years that have evolved stuff like their character models.
I very highly doubt it is anything drastic
Still a trash faction…
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Topher
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If I had to guess it would be with the narrative that came in the books recently? They have added a fair bit to the orcs in the last 15 years that have evolved stuff like their character models.
I very highly doubt it is anything drastic
Still a trash faction…
The only thing I can see via google searches is that Ork's now have reality warping powers (?).
So maybe there's new types of enemies that can warp shit in. I dunno.
San Dan Glokta
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I just bought and finished the game like 4 months ago lol.
The original is still great aside from sparse level textures and a couple stupid difficulty spikes.
The original is still great aside from sparse level textures and a couple stupid difficulty spikes.
DeepEnigma
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geary
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ChatGPT says:
The Orks (or "orcs") in Warhammer 40,000 have always been a staple of comic brutality and anarchic violence, but recent lore—especially from the 9th edition onward—has brought some notable developments that shift both their narrative presence and tactical flavor. Here's a breakdown of the key changes and expansions:
One of the most visible changes in recent Ork lore is the introduction of the Beast Snagga sub-faction. This is more than just a new unit line—it's a cultural evolution within Ork society.
1. Beast Snaggas and the Return to the Wild
- Who they are: Beast Snaggas are a more primal, feral type of Ork, favoring squigs (especially giant ones like squigosauruses) over vehicles and high-tech dakka. Think of them as nomadic, beast-riding Orks who disdain excessive tech.
- Why it matters: This signals a rebalancing of Ork society between the high-tech Mekboyz and these more primitive warbands. It also suggests that Gork and Mork (Ork gods) might be pushing their worshippers back toward raw, unfiltered violence, rather than just engineering know-how.
Implication: There's an Ork-wide philosophical schism brewing—techno-orks vs. primal-orks. It mirrors tensions elsewhere in the 40k universe, like Mars' divisions or the Imperium's internal dogmas.
Recent lore has further emphasized the Waaagh! as not just a cultural movement, but a psionic warp-powered force.
2. Waaagh! as a Psy-Warp Phenomenon
- In practical terms: Orks don't just fight harder when a Waaagh! is called—they warp reality around them through collective belief. Enough Orks believing they can win essentially bends the warp and physics in their favor.
- Example: Orks building a "red" vehicle makes it go faster—not because of science, but because enough Orks believe it should. Newer lore leans harder into this, giving it more narrative credibility and strategic flexibility.
Ghazghkull isn't just back—he's effectively semi-divine now.
3. "Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka" Ascendant
- What changed: After surviving (sort of) a plasma shot that should've disintegrated him, he's been rebuilt by Mad Dok Grotsnik into something closer to a living god of war.
- The Psychic Element: Ghazghkull's presence now can catalyze a massive Waaagh! across entire systems, warping Ork behavior and intensity like a massive psychic amplifier.
Orks, once a sort of wildcard side faction, are now being written into the broader galactic struggle in more meaningful ways:
4. Greater Role in the Galactic Meta
- Octarius War Escalation: The Orks are still engaged in brutal perpetual warfare with the Tyranids in the Octarius Sector. The Inquisition tried to keep it contained (because the war keeps both species occupied), but recent events show it's failing.
- Broken Wheel Theory: Some Inquisitors believe Orks are the "natural predator" of the galaxy—necessary chaos to test and weed out the weak. New lore leans into this idea more philosophically.
Rules-wise (though rules are not lore per se), recent Codex updates align with lore changes:
5. Codex (9th Edition) and Factional Flexibility
- Custom Kulture options: Ork clans now reflect deeper cultural divergence (Speed Freeks, Snakebites, etc.).
- Beast Snagga units: Emphasize melee-heavy, squig-based warfare—like a throwback to Rogue Trader-style Ork savagery, but dialed up to 11.
Summary: What's Actually Changed?
Element Before Now Ork Culture Mostly tech vs. melee clans Beast Snagga rise as a primal counter-movement Waaagh! A morale/psychic buff A literal warp-altering event Leadership Ghazghkull = top warboss Ghazghkull = proto-god-figure Narrative Role Background chaos agents Core players in galactic collapse theories Faction Identity Jokey brutality Still jokey, but metaphysically terrifying
LordCBH
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No PS5 is an extremely bizarre choice lol.
DeepEnigma
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Dr. Samuel Hayden
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Will it be a free PC upgrade?
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Doesn't say in any article I've read so far.
Lucifers Beard
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It would be cool if they left the multiplayer in, but I'll grab it regardless. Be even better if it's a free update or owners get it cheaper.
Trogdor1123
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Making them less comedic and the characters involvement of Gork and Mork is pretty huge in the setting. The fight between Angron and Ghazghkull will be awesome… when Angron defeats (but I dont think he will kill him) him it will bring about some interesting narrative opportunities.
Still, it's always a joke to see these things. Just fodder for the emperors servants to sharpen their skills on before facing an actually worthy foe…
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Chuck Berry
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I'm all over this. Still need to play Space Marine 2 too.
Never touched any of these games since Warhammer is for nerds.
Never touched any of these games since Warhammer is for nerds.
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BennyBlanco
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intbal
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Best guess:
This is just the original PC version, with some new assets and all the visual settings at max.
Since that's DirectX, a port to Xbox consoles is effortless. A Playstation version would need to be ported to the PS API.
Might just be a case of a separate announcement, or it might come later.
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The greater franchise might be for nerds but the two Space Marine games are very solid shooters.
Chuck Berry
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DeepEnigma
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Roman Empire
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Pretty sure it is a timed exlcusive, and they hardly say when those are such cases to not miss out on pontential initial sales on both who have both systems who deliberately would choose to wait to buy on the other system.
That's where your problem with understanding begins... Some of you have gotten the idea (or want to believe) that studios and publishers have no reason or incentive to release games on Xbox and that everything has to be on PS, which is then shocking to you.
1- WH 40K also sold excellently on XBOX
2- The incentive to release it on XBOX and not on PS could have several reasons. Making that decision does not automatically mean being crazy and mentally deficient.
3- It's not the first or last game to be released this and every year on PC/XBOX and not on PS, and not necessarily games that come out on GamePass.
Don't worry, the game will also come out on PS5 at some point, and as some people mentioned in the thread, it's probably a project funded via GamePass, a very simple PC port on XSeries or both.
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DeepEnigma
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That's a whole lot of "mentally deficient" writing just to say there was a timed exclusivity deal or announcement embargo.That's where your problem with understanding begins... Some of you have gotten the idea (or want to believe) that studios and publishers have no reason or incentive to release games on Xbox and that everything has to be on PS, which is then shocking to you.
1- WH 40K also sold excellently on XBOX
2- The incentive to release it on XBOX and not on PS could have several reasons. Making that decision does not automatically mean being crazy and mentally deficient.
3- It's not the first or last game to be released this and every year on PC/XBOX and not on PS, and not necessarily games that come out on GamePass.
Don't worry, the game will also come out on PS5 at some point, and as some people mentioned in the thread, it's probably a project funded via GamePass, a very simple PC port on XSeries or both.
It really is that simple.
That 48-72 hour embargo?
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
They are reality warpers now.
The reason the machines they build work and no one understands how or why they work, is simply because Orks believe they can work so they work.
Why do they paint their vehicles certain colors....because they believe the color will make the thing fly faster........so it does.
Why did warcrys in the old games make them stronger.....because they believed it would.......so it did.
Its weird to try to make sense of Orks.......but the new editions make them that much more funny they are just legit dangerous now in canon.
LordCBH
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That 48-72 hour embargo?
Yep. Just like Meraphor, and P3R, and probably some others I can't remember. We'll find out for sure either Sunday or Monday I expect.
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And yet reactions like yours that best represent that concept....Well, it's actually that and brand hatred...
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DeepEnigma
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No, retard. It's simple realities of the industry.And yet reactions like yours that best represent that concept....Well, it's actually that and brand hatred...
The reality of the industry is that this is the generation where the most games of all types, genres, and origins are coming to Xbox, and that cases where games are released on PC/Xbox are so frequent that even low-level characters like should not be surprised at this point and have no other reaction than to insult.
It's okay, I have understanding with people in that situation
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jmiller180
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Might have to check this out. Spare Marine II was pretty sick having never played the first.
DeepEnigma
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The reality of the industry is that this is the generation where the most games of all types, genres, and origins are coming to Xbox, and that cases where games are released on PC/Xbox are so frequent that even low-level characters like you are surprised at this point and have no other reaction than to insult.
It's okay, I have understanding with people in that situation
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So that Space Marine .. huh guys?
