bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
finally ponied up for this. kinda surprised that it looks and runs significantly worse than CoH...is this normal?
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Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War 2 |OT| FOR THE EMPEROR!!
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fizzelopeguss
Banned
Druz said:
Yeah, but didn't relic lose a few of their stars to blizzard?
DoW+WE are still awesome.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
my bad...reinstalled windows a couple days ago and forgot to upgrade my drivers. game looks awesome and runs well.bistromathics said:
Just played a bit again. I wish I had a rudimentary damage calculator.
Since I can't just beam my guys up and re-equip them once I've started a mission I might be stuck with a vastly inferior weapon choice.
I suspect my battle against the Ork chieftain in the tank would have been far easier if I'd equipped Avitus with his shoddy rocket launcher - but it does only a third of the base damage his rare heavy bolter does. I just don't know which would be better against an armored vehicle.
Since I can't just beam my guys up and re-equip them once I've started a mission I might be stuck with a vastly inferior weapon choice.
I suspect my battle against the Ork chieftain in the tank would have been far easier if I'd equipped Avitus with his shoddy rocket launcher - but it does only a third of the base damage his rare heavy bolter does. I just don't know which would be better against an armored vehicle.
Morbid Angel
Member
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Does this mean that Warriors aren't that lethal anymore, as soon as they knock your unit off their feet? I honestly don't know, since I've never played Tyrannid before.
And cheers for (hopefully) not being paired with Force Commander dipshits as often anymore thanks to those Energy Shield modifications.
Mohonky
Member
Some things about this game are really fucking irritating, and they become even more irritating when you try and play the game on Primarch difficulty.
- units take to long to begin moving when a grenade is thrown at them, even when they don't have to 'take down' their weaponry. By the time I've seen an attack coming from a grenade or a boss and have hit retreat the units continue standing there for so long I get fucked up anyway.
- why when selecting units if there is a downed unit, does it select them? Wtf am I going to do with a downed unit? I want the units around the downed unit.
- throwing a grenade or ordering an attack carries the attack out where I click, not the unit I clicked on. By the time your units bother to do anything the enemy is usually no where near where I've ordered them to jump assault or to throw a grenade. I clicked on the units to attack so attack them, no where they were standing 3 seconds ago.
Farkkkkk theres a tonne more stuff shitting me about this game, it's just a culmination of stupid little shit that adds up.
- units take to long to begin moving when a grenade is thrown at them, even when they don't have to 'take down' their weaponry. By the time I've seen an attack coming from a grenade or a boss and have hit retreat the units continue standing there for so long I get fucked up anyway.
- why when selecting units if there is a downed unit, does it select them? Wtf am I going to do with a downed unit? I want the units around the downed unit.
- throwing a grenade or ordering an attack carries the attack out where I click, not the unit I clicked on. By the time your units bother to do anything the enemy is usually no where near where I've ordered them to jump assault or to throw a grenade. I clicked on the units to attack so attack them, no where they were standing 3 seconds ago.
Farkkkkk theres a tonne more stuff shitting me about this game, it's just a culmination of stupid little shit that adds up.
NemesisPrime
Banned
Finally. Was getting tired of Nid "noobs" exploiting this by floating cheapo mines through tunnels to explode my expensive troops.
For those who didn't get the achievement for completing the game, just access the "Complete" option during the Campaign Selection screen. It'll give you all the achievements for completing the campaign up to the highest difficulty you chose.
Looks like I can give Warp Spiders another chance now.
Maybe I can actually get my Wraithlord away from Warriors now.i hate bees said:
Looks like I can give Warp Spiders another chance now.
i hate bees
Member
MicVlaD said:
The warrior's are still pretty lethal but vehicles are quite a bit more durable against them, which is nice!
Energy shield's are still good (when used problem) but you can't end up with a situation where the shield regens faster than it can be damaged, it reduces the effectiveness of the Eldar Falcon quite a bit at T3 however.
Warp Spiders are much more threatening, I should think they'll get a longer timer on their jump ability as at the moment a well micro'd squad are practically invincible, the best counter is snipers.
Great patch so far, new map's nice.
MrCompletely
Member
Mohonky said:
Part of the challenge of successfully using a grenade is timing it so it does maximum damage to as many units. Frags also damage cover and environmental obstacles. Makes more sense to me that you would be marking the ground, not the unit.
Same with jump units, jumping out of battle is just as crucial as jumping in... makes more sense to mark the ground in every case.
I agree with your first two points though. Try watching a replay on 2x time and imagine if the game played like THAT (would be awesome).
mikekennyb
Member
DoW 2 has grown on me. The energy shield nerf in the patch should change up gameplay in MP quite a bit.
Kestastrophe
Member
http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar2/replays.php?game=47&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=76782
Pretty good comeback I had earlier today in a 6p ranked match.
Pretty good comeback I had earlier today in a 6p ranked match.
all good changes. relic are insistent that this is just a minor prelude to the big patch on it's way, but given their record for over-compensation and bug introduction (coh is a fucking mess right now) i wonder if a series of minor patches would serve the community better.
i guess not having to certify through microsoft would've helped with that plan (code certification introduces a two week delay, even if the changes have nothing to do with gfwl).
i guess not having to certify through microsoft would've helped with that plan (code certification introduces a two week delay, even if the changes have nothing to do with gfwl).
Gully State
Member
I picked this game up 2 days before it went on sale on Steam. The game is ridiculously gorgeous at the highest settings and even on the lowest settings, it looks good (my friend showed this game off to me with his low end rig P4, 6600GT) Anyways I have a few questions.
1) Is there a vsync option in this game? I can't seem to find it in the options menu.
2) What are some good places for multiplayer resources? I'm getting hammered right now as the last RTS I played was AOE2 and I wasn't even that great at it. Mainly picked up this game to be the 2nd/3rd wheel and play with my friends.
1) Is there a vsync option in this game? I can't seem to find it in the options menu.
2) What are some good places for multiplayer resources? I'm getting hammered right now as the last RTS I played was AOE2 and I wasn't even that great at it. Mainly picked up this game to be the 2nd/3rd wheel and play with my friends.
Gully State
Member
wow...I guess this game isn't popular on GAF?
TouchMyBox
Member
Gully State said:
1) Force it in your Nvidia Control Panel or Catalyst Control Center (for nvidia and ati cards respectively)
2) Try gamereplays http://www.gamereplays.org/portals.php
Gully State
Member
TouchMyBox said:
Thanks for the answers, also is there a faction that's more beginner friendly than the rest?
Gully State said:
previous to this last patch i would've said tyranids, but now i'd say that all the factions (except eldar) are pretty beginner friendly. space marines are the best for anyone new to rts since you'll field relatively few units. tyranids/orks if you're more accustomed to traditional rts.
I doubt you can use a second-hand copy, adg1034. Welcome to the awesome new age of digital distribution. :-/
Anyone else having problems with the recent update?
I just spent five minutes watching a Left4dead advertisement and loading bar, and then this:
Oh fuck you, steam, I just wanted to watch a replay. :-/
Anyone else having problems with the recent update?
I just spent five minutes watching a Left4dead advertisement and loading bar, and then this:
Oh fuck you, steam, I just wanted to watch a replay. :-/
shrapnelmagnet
Member
adg1034 said:
The CD Key or Product Key is tied to a Steam account. If the original owner used it on Steam, you would need to use their Steam account to play the game.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
DOW2 Official Soundtrack has been released for free 
http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=577
Ridic.
If you like the Bonus Remix track, check out more Noobie Noobinson here: http://noobienoobinsonandthedoubleboomskees.bandcamp.com/
Download the whole Soundtrack here http://store.steampowered.com/app/15620/ (bottom of the page after the age-gate)
http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=577
We are really excited to bring to our fans the Dawn of War II Official Soundtrack. This is the product of a lot of work from some very talented people including our Composer, Doyle W. Donehoo and our Audio Lead, Jason Ross with contributions by Artist, Noah Stacey and Noobie Noobinson. We would really like to thank Games Workshop and THQ for giving us the go ahead to release this to the fans free of charge most people make you pay extra for this kind of thing and to Steam for hosting it.
Below you will find 20 great tracks, streamable from youtube and downloadable in high 320kbps quality. Weve also turned the incredible Soundtrack Album art into wallpaper for you to slap all over your desktop. After that there is commentary about the Soundtrack and the people contributing to it. Its certainly worth a read.
Jason Ross on how the soundtrack came together We have had a lot of positive feedback regarding the music in Dawn Of War II, from people sending fan email to our composer, to others asking if there will be release of the soundtrack. Hopefully fans want a soundtrack so it can be played at excessive volumes during tabletop games; frightening the neighbors and scaring pets. All the positive comments brought on talk of getting the music out to the fans, but before we could get our ducks lined up, a clever community member made the in-game songs available to the forum community.
However, as sound lead for DOW II, I had issues with this. First up, the tracks in-game are meant for the adaptive music engine, so theyre split into multichannel files which music playing software doesnt always know how to handle. Therefore people were likely only hearing half of the music. Secondly the tracks in-game are edited and mixed for longer gameplay matches, so theyre not actually what Doyle W. Donehoo intended to be the final stand alone track. Lastly, there were some mixing issues when all channels were collapsed to Stereo which are not a problem in game, but can sound odd when played as a regular music track.
At Relic we like to deliver the best possible quality on whatever we touch, so the versions floating around the net didnt make me happy. I knew how good this music could sound, and people werent hearing that. Therefore, I spent a couple of weeks going back to the original uncompressed stem mixes delivered by Doyle, restored the original edits, balanced the mixes, then mastered & sequenced the whole thing together into a proper album. Someone even snuck in a little something extra for the fans before we encoded it all at 320kbps, a higher bitrate than the in-game content, and attached some killer cover art.
While we let the suits figure out how/when/where to get this out to the fans, I sent the development team a link to the soundtrack. These were folks who had been hearing much of this music for the last couple of years while playing the game, and yet they STILL got juiced hearing the themes, playing the album at their desks and outside of work. I heard reports of people listening to the DOW II music while playing _other_ games (instead of that games soundtrack), loving how huge and epic Doyles music made everything feel. As for me, I like hearing the music while careening through downtown traffic on my bicycle at high speeds, the huge horns of the Emperor putting to shame any kind of car horn taking issue with my relaxed interpretation of traffic laws. (note: Relic accepts no liability for damage caused by individual stupidity at the hands of Musically Huge Pure Epicness)
So I hope you enjoy the official Dawn Of War II soundtrack, I think Doyle did a great job crafting the musical sound to our game, and now you can enjoy it as it was meant to be heard, and that makes this audio lead happy.
Thanks for listening.
Noobie Noobinson on the Remixed Track
Noobie Noobinson is a mysterious orb-headed being that hails from the far reaches of deep space, where his great musical accomplishments have garnered a fanatical following amongst many different races of advanced beings.
He is most famous in this part of the galaxy for his work with The Double Boomskees; two musicians from Vancouver, Canada, whom he periodically stays with to write music, party, and play video games.
It was during one such gaming session that Noobinson developed a love for Dawn of War II, and went straight to THQ executive headquarters with a proposition to remix a song, to which they agreed after only seconds of closed-door deliberation.
The finished track is a twisted concoction of the original orchestral tracks, mixed with various sound effects from the game itself, as well as a light spicing of dark beats, space bass, and grim guitar riffs.
He hopes you enjoy it, and maybe youll see him online...
Noah Stacey on the Cover Art
Personally, I feel that the Tyranids are the star of DOW II; the fans have wanted them for a long time, and Space Marines always get all the glory, so this time I wanted to give them the spotlight.
This Carnifex howls at the sky in satisfaction as spores rain from the clouds and high-level Tyranids run amok devouring anything and everything.
Ridic.
If you like the Bonus Remix track, check out more Noobie Noobinson here: http://noobienoobinsonandthedoubleboomskees.bandcamp.com/
Download the whole Soundtrack here http://store.steampowered.com/app/15620/ (bottom of the page after the age-gate)
MrCompletely
Member
played a few co-op missions in Primarch (hardest) difficulty last night. Might have been the best co-op experience I've ever had. I highly recommend co-op in this game, especially on the primarch difficulty. Get ready for a challenge that absolutely requires strategic planning, teamwork, and skill.
Gully State
Member
Odrion said:
That was 2 weeks ago.
Kestastrophe
Member
I actually need partners for co-op. If anyone wants to play, my GT is KestastropheMrCompletely said:
Gully State
Member
Odrion said:
I dunno but the date of the post you quoted was 4/15/09
-Anyways I'm trying to get into multiplayer and not suck but my last few forrays into it have been embarassingly unsuccessful. I don't have high goals either, just want to be the 3rd wheel of a 3 v 3 team. I think one of my main problems is build order. I have no idea how to upgrade/advance the tech tree/build units fast enough. I've watched a lot of matches but it seems like the matches don't show build orders.
MrCompletely
Member
Gully State said:
Check out Gamereplays.org, there's a lot of info and talk on the forums about build orders. there's also a lot of talk about it on the official DoW2 forums. I think the best bet is just feeling out what works best for you, and what works best against whichever faction your opponent is using.
Also, play a 1v1 comp stomp on a hard difficulty to get a feel for which units counter which. There's a lot of response in certain strategies, ie build tacmarines w/rockets when you see enemy vehicles, be prepped for a flank if you build devastors early, etc.
I'm no expert in multiplayer, I haven't played ranked matches since the beta, but I've played plenty of comp stomps and custom games, and plan on delving into ranked once I finish the campaign (which Im in love with).
Gully State
Member
MrCompletely said:
Yeah, I know about gamereplays.org. That's where I frequent for replays and have read some of their articles. Since you brought it up, I realize I don't fully know what counters what in this game. That would probably be helpful to know. Anyways, I'm having a blast with the singleplayer. I'm surprised that game reviewers largely don't like it (edit: the singleplayer mode I mean). I think it's quite refreshing that they made singleplayer this "diablo with squads" affair.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
Anyone know if they patched the game so that I can get my completed game achievement??
MrCompletely
Member
Post on the Official Dow2 Page:
Weve been busy! Dawn of War II is going to get a big patch in early May. This is the first of a series of posts where we will talk some details about what to expect in the update. As a bit of a preview, here are just a few things you can look forward to in the patch.
We are adding a Two-on-Two game mode, with two new four player maps.
Two-on-Two is a ranked game mode with leaderboard support.
An improved, more challenging Skirmish AI.
Push to talk voice chat and Company of Heroes style sub-selection options.
New squad decorators and significant UI improvements.
A performance test to help measure Dawn of War II performance.
Over the next week well be talking into detail about some of these additions right here. Keep an eye on this space as we post new information.
Weve been busy! Dawn of War II is going to get a big patch in early May. This is the first of a series of posts where we will talk some details about what to expect in the update. As a bit of a preview, here are just a few things you can look forward to in the patch.
We are adding a Two-on-Two game mode, with two new four player maps.
Two-on-Two is a ranked game mode with leaderboard support.
An improved, more challenging Skirmish AI.
Push to talk voice chat and Company of Heroes style sub-selection options.
New squad decorators and significant UI improvements.
A performance test to help measure Dawn of War II performance.
Over the next week well be talking into detail about some of these additions right here. Keep an eye on this space as we post new information.
MrCompletely
Member
Fans have spoken, Relic has listened. 2v2 > 3v3.
Morbid Angel
Member
DevelopmentArrested said:
Yeah it's been patched. Load your save and go to the end campaign screen.
Morbid Angel
Member
Relic released the Dawn of War II soundtrack today (free of course). Download it from http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=577 or from Steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/15620/.