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[Goodstyle]

America isn't ready for a true progressive in the White House. I know a lot of you think we should have nominated a hardcore leftist like Bernie Sanders, but that clearly isn't the answer given what we know about who voted for Trump. We can't nominate a woman again until Michelle Obama holds public office for 4-8 years, or a non-white person for that matter. If Democrats want to win back racist whites, we're going to need to nominate a master politician in the mold of Bill Clinton. A new "Third Way" operative that can destroy Trump 4 years from now by winning back whites and retaining black voters. No more discussion of BLM and police brutality. No more discussion about the wage gap and sexism in society. No more discussion of Islamiphobia in America. White people are not ready for that, we know this now.

It's time to start playing to win. I believe in all the causes I just said we shouldn't talk about anymore, and I still believe we should nominate someone who will be on the right side of these, but we can't approach political discourse in America the same way we used to. The white vote is too volatile, Bill Clinton above all else knew this. We all thought that changed this year, but we were wrong.

For those concerned about having a first female president, you have to understand that Michelle Obama is our last shot at one that we'll get in this generation. Vote for her if you live in electorate she will run for, and hope for the best in 2024 or 2028. No woman will have a shot at higher office without having first been connected to a powerful and well loved man. That's just the way America is.

 

[Fracas]

Michelle isn't going to run, as much as I would love her to.

And I'm not sure what the Dems should do. It's easy to say a centrist approach would work but it's also hard to discern how much Clinton lost because of perceived baggage vs her actual message.

 

[SDCowboy]

What was needed was for Biden to run, which should have been what happened in the first place.

 

[Perfect Blue]

No, thanks. Bill Clinton's third way nonsense is to blame for A LOT of the current failings in American society. America needs another Barack Obama.

 

[Sephzilla]

In this modern age of instant media and stories/scoops spreading like wildfire, I honestly don't know if Bill Clinton would get elected in 2016 with some of the baggage that he had.

 

[old manatee]

Yeah more of that Clinton magic. That's a sane takeaway from this election.

 

[teruterubozu]

Dude, Obama already said she will never run for office. I think he knows her best.

 

[Principate]

Michelle isn't going to run, as much as I would love her to.

Honestly Michelle has much more Charisma than Clinton did, I wouldn't be surprised if would have done much better under a similar scenario inspite of her handicaps politically.

 

[Hoje0308]

In this modern age of instant media and stories/scoops spreading like wildfire, I honestly don't know if Bill Clinton would get elected in 2016 with some of the baggage that he had.

We just elected Trump...

 

[Sephzilla]

We just elected Trump...

True, but part of that was due to Hillary's baggage and general distrust of her. Considering Hillary couldn't beat Obama either, I honestly believe Hillary is simply un-electable

 

[aeolist]

ahhhh keep the shitty hot takes coming, it's all i can find joy in this morning

 

[andythinkpad]

The Clinton family is responsible to losing the white house and supreme court to the conservative. No more Clintons.

 

[Sinfamy]

The delusion on GAF is palpable.

 

[DragonSworne]

Trump is Bill Clinton

 

[legacyzero]

OMG, have y'all not learned ANYTHING after last night? The country is OVER corrupt and career politicians. Last night proves that.

 

[zeelman]

We need a more left wing, progressive candidate. The Democrats keep trying to be moderate and it's not working.

 

[Skinny Pete]

We don't need any Clintons ever again.

 

[Kathian]

Yeah more of that Clinton magic. That's a sane takeaway from this election.

Chelsea might do it.

 

[WedgeX]

No, thanks. Bill Clinton's third way nonsense is to blame for A LOT of the current failings in American society. America needs another Barack Obama.

.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

Someone with Bill's charisma, maybe

 

[Boney]

Sharing this thread I made about an interview with Bill in 2000

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1310826

 

[sajj316]

Let's get another white male into office ...

and I'd like another Bill Clinton .. btw. Hopefully he's a minority.

 

[Kin5290]

No, thanks. Bill Clinton's third way nonsense is to blame for A LOT of the current failings in American society. America needs another Barack Obama.

America's response to the first Barack Obama was to elect the man who spent three years demanding to see his papers.

Let's get another white male into office ...

and I'd like another Bill Clinton .. btw. Hopefully he's a minority.

Corey Booker?

 

[Goodstyle]

Guys I don't literally mean we get another Clinton to run, I'm talking about a charismatic third way politician.

And don't count Michelle out for the future. Obama's legacy is about to be completely trashed. They're going to want to reclaim it one way or another...

 

[thefro]

He'd never get through the primary because he's pro-life and pro-gun, but John Bel Edwards (LA Governor) is probably the best "southern moderate Dem" we got.

 

[O Canada Our Home and Native Land]

Elizabeth Warren will do better in four years.

 

[Joezie]

We don't need any Clintons ever again.

^^^^

 

[Kin5290]

We need a more left wing, progressive candidate. The Democrats keep trying to be moderate and it's not working.

Again, the Democrats elected a left wing, progressive candidate and the American electorate's choice was to elect Donald Trump.

 

[HarryKS]

Honestly Michelle has much more Charisma than Clinton did, I wouldn't be surprised if would have done much better under a similar scenario inspite of her handicaps politically.

You mean Hillary, yeah?

 

[Goro Majima]

The left needs an FDR or LBJ that speaks directly to poor rural whites.

I bet the next candidate will be a white male from a rural area that speaks directly to those people. Hell thats kinda what Bernie Sanders was all about.

Welfare for the rural areas will be a major topic when Trump doesn't bring the jobs back.

Edit: stop trying to "check the boxes" by electing (insert first minority president here). Left has to play it safe and counter with a white male if they want to win a midterm presidential election.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Guys I don't literally mean we get another Clinton to run, I'm talking about a charismatic third way politician.

And don't count Michelle out for the future. Obama's legacy is about to be completely trashed. They're going to want to reclaim it one way or another...

Obamas don't owe America anything. They put up with vile shit, fought hard, and their legacy is going to be torn down by a kkk clown.

We let them down.

 

[diablos991]

We don't need any more Clinton anywhere near politics.

Hopefully a special prosecutor seals this deal.

 

[Goodstyle]

Elizabeth Warren will do better in four years.

No woman is getting the vote without something extraordinary backing them. Trump's Pocahontas talk would decimate her. White people would come out in droves to stop her.

 

[Raylan]

We need another Bill Clinton

We surely do not!

We don't need any more Clinton anywhere near politics.

Exactly!

 

[justjohn]

No, thanks. Bill Clinton's third way nonsense is to blame for A LOT of the current failings in American society. America needs another Barack Obama.

Yes what we need right now is another empty suit. I don't want to see another Clinton again in my lifetime. In fact I don't even want to see them in the media again. Go and enjoy your millions in retirement and leave us alone.

 

[Lucc]

No, thanks. Bill Clinton's third way nonsense is to blame for A LOT of the current failings in American society. America needs another Barack Obama.

Obamas presidency has been a complete failure with Trump as a result.

I'm sorry but Trump is his legacy.


America needed Bernie 16 years ago...

 

[Goodstyle]

Again, I don't literally mean another Clinton. JFC, please at least skim the OP before responding.

 

[Skinny Pete]

Again, I don't literally mean another Clinton. JFC, please at least skim the OP before responding.

I know. I think we are all just pissed but I get your point.

 

[Haloid1177]

He'd never get through the primary because he's pro-life and pro-gun, but John Bel Edwards (LA Governor) is probably the best "southern moderate Dem" we got.

I am sickened for the name to be even mentioned he's a Republican plain and simple. Being slightly more socially accepting doesn't flip the party that his views generally align with. He's also just amazingly unlikable and smug.

Put in Booker and let it rip.

 

[nasax]

The O.G. Pussy Grabber

 

[Sinfamy]

Again, the Democrats elected a left wing, progressive candidate and the American electorate's choice was to elect Donald Trump.

What are you talking about?
They did not elect Bernie Sanders.

Hillary is the antithesis of a progressive in the Democratic spectrum.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Elizabeth Warren will do better in four years.

Plus to close to Clinton. Need someone with no connection to her.

 

[SparkleMotion]

Obamas presidency has been a complete failure with Trump as a result.

I'm sorry but Trump is his legacy.


America needed Bernie 16 years ago...

How was his presidency a failure?

 

[Skellig Gra]

We need another Obama not Clinton. Not an actual Obama but someone like him. Tall order though unfortunately.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

If John Edwards didn't turn out to be a steaming pile of shit as a person, he would've been the perfect candidate this cycle.

 

[Dalibor68]

Historic question: how much did Obama talk about minority rights and other progressive issues compared to the Clinton campaign in 2016? Because I don't remember hearing as much about it back then, but then again that was 8 years ago so my memory doesn't hold up too well.

 

[Generalpsyduck]

Fuck Clinton we need another Obama.

 

[Yaboosh]

The turn on Hillary on Gaf was so swift.

 

[LumpOfCole]

We need a Duckworth.

 

[Generalpsyduck]

The turn on Hillary on Gaf was so swift.

Their bubble popped.