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Weekly UK chart (GTA:LCS #2, RE4 #7)
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UltraMarioMan
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I guess this helps the odds for a GC RE4 rerelease with PS2 extras. Guess not many people waited for the PS2 version afterall. Maybe the PS2 extras will be added to the Players Choice release.
Die Squirrel Die
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Deg said:
It's not doing that bad considering the games above it are either football games or receiving a decent to heavy amount of advertising.
On the subject of advertising I have to say kudos to R*. Their games haven't exactly had the best graphics but haven't succumbed to this trend of rendering up some unrepresentative CG just for the sake of the commercial. Their adverts are comprised almost entirely of in-game graphics (except The Warriors, which mixes in a little CG taken from the game).
UltraMarioMan
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Let me guess...you are an anti-Nintendo nazi?Deg said:
So pretty much every single person who is buying a DS in Europe right now is completely content with the single game they get in the bundle, and as such are not buying any other games as evidenced by the complete lack of any more than a couple of DS titles present in the Top 40 in the last month right?bigNman said:
Just checking...
Really guys, this theory is completely asstastic.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
Deg said:
A lack of advertising (of both the GC and PS2) releases can't have helped. I just don't think you can assume that great reviews and strong word of mouth from the hardcore community will automatically equal great mainstream sales. Most people probably aren't aware that they've made massive changes to the series.
With the GC release, well it had a rep of a kiddy console. How are people supposed to know that there's this awesome game with blood and gore and all that mature stuff if you don't let them know about it? And with the PS2, well what's been PS2 owner's exposure to the series this gen? Dead Aim, the Outbreak games? If that doesn't turn you off the idea of another RE (without knowing that they changed the formula) then what would?
You look at how some utter crap sells because it's advertised and it boggles the mind that some companies don't think advertising's important. It seems like this gen a lot of Japanese publishers (or the publishers putting out their games over here) don't want to bother with marketing. Konami advertised the hell out of MGS1 but I don't recall ever seeing anything for MGS2, and especially not MGS3. Capcom heavily promoted DMC but DMC2 and 3? Nothing.
The only companies that seem to advertise are the western ones. That probably has as much to do with the declining prominence of Japanese developed games as anything.
Orin GA said:
Also, from the very start I was convinced RE4 would not sell more on PS2 than GC. We need solid numbers to back this up, but I'm pretty sure of it at this point. I think the whole complaining about it was pointless; very few sales were sucked away from the GC version, imo.
Tim the Wiz
Banned
Heian-kyo said:
Well, my cousin's daughter got it [DS] and Nintendogs. Hasn't bought anything for it except GBA games since. That's pretty much anecdotal evidence, but I do live in Australia, and as such I wouldn't think that theory too much of a stretch.
Deg said:
Haven't worldwide RE4 GC sales broken two million? Not too shabby, considering where the GameCube was early this year. Otherwise, why should you care? RE4's going to sell quite a bit more due to the release on the PS2 system, and frankly, I didn't and still don't mind experiencing the silkier GameCube version early this year. In any case, what I'm really trying to say is that you play the games, not the platform. I just don't see the crux of your argument...
Deg said:
Guh? RE4 sold 1.5 million on the GC since it's release, and considering it's teh kiddie console, AND it's a third party game, that's just damn good. Sure, it might have gone under Capcom's predicted numbers but hell, those idiots announced the PS2 version coming out days before the GC release. Not to mention lack of advertising on Capcom's part.
Besides, just putting games on the PS2 won't sell bucketloads. Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2 proved that.
Amir0x said:
Also, from the very start I was convinced RE4 would not sell more on PS2 than GC. We need solid numbers to back this up, but I'm pretty sure of it at this point. I think the whole complaining about it was pointless; very few sales were sucked away from the GC version, imo.
I think it'll only be the case in Japan. It MAY happen in the US eventually, but only after GH release. Unless it has one hell of a holiday.
gamergirly
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Deg said:
including yourself
i told you people, PSP is in high demand but Sony dont want to ship or are having trouble replenishing stock.
We put at least 20 orders every saturday at my store (only day i work) and that doenst take into account the share amount of people simply enquiring about our inventory, we now have to turn people away because we dont know if we can fill the back orders.
We put at least 20 orders every saturday at my store (only day i work) and that doenst take into account the share amount of people simply enquiring about our inventory, we now have to turn people away because we dont know if we can fill the back orders.
Battlefront 2 obviously had tp sell much better than GTA becuase its multiplataform and what's the PSP population there? 300k PSP?
GTA:LCS will be this holiday PSP killer app.
Very true. While Im completely turned off by the game (I have played it) my lil sister does find it very amusing... it's also amusing how she totally neglects our REAL dog :lol
As for RE4, thats the usual RE debut really. The RE Outbreaks also debuted around those chart numbers. RE has never been a #1 chart topper in the UK in quite a while, add to the fact that most RE fans got the game on Gamecube then its a impressive number. I don't think the PS2 version will sell higher than the GC version.
GTA:LCS will be this holiday PSP killer app.
Very true. While Im completely turned off by the game (I have played it) my lil sister does find it very amusing... it's also amusing how she totally neglects our REAL dog :lol
As for RE4, thats the usual RE debut really. The RE Outbreaks also debuted around those chart numbers. RE has never been a #1 chart topper in the UK in quite a while, add to the fact that most RE fans got the game on Gamecube then its a impressive number. I don't think the PS2 version will sell higher than the GC version.
jamesinclair
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Heian-kyo said:
Basically.
When the DS launched in the US, wasnt the attach ratio LESS than 1:1?
As in, many people were happy with Pictochat + Metroid demo?
What makes having a full game included hard to believe?
Very, very impressive numbers for Liberty City Stories! Battlefront is also selling surprisingly well on the handheld! It strikes me as odd that there's only a single DS game in the top 40 (Nintendogs at No.38) - and no love for Castlevania; not even in the DS chart. 
But Lumines is up on the PSP charts - and so is Wipeout Pure!
But Lumines is up on the PSP charts - and so is Wipeout Pure!
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Frankfurter
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Deg said:
Umm, it's fucking great.
The first thing we heard after RE4 "bombed" (i.e. will meet the expectations of Capcom, altough these were made as this game was exclusive and to be released in the christmas season) was that the PS2 version would sell SHITLOADS cause GC owners are stupid and ... children and whatnot. Now - as we have the first sign that RE4 might not be selling that good on PS2 (although they put really much work into it [content wise, concerning graphics etc.]) - you come with such fucking retarded shit.
Sorry, but it's enough. The game didn't bomb on GC, the game won't bomb on PS2, but probably it would have been better if they would have stuck to GC and advertised it more!
C- Warrior
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1) I think people are going to be surprised at how well the GC version sold, and how little the PS2 version sells. Look, you know--after REmake and RE0 (two prominant RE titles) were released on the ever-so-cheap Gamecube, you'd imagine a large chunk of RE fans would have just copped out and bought a GC by now. Next, the PS2 is losing steam, next-gen talk is starting up, the hype for RE4 PS2 was massively small compared to the GC one etc. etc.,
2) All gamecube to PS2 ports of Capcom games, have sold more on the GC. It's a simple as that. Blame the heavy amount of casuals or piracy on the PS2, whatever. Numbers are numbers.
3) Many sequals sell less than a previous iteration in the franchise when it's released on the same console/platform. Tekken 5 sold less than 4. MGS3 sold less than 2. DMC3 sold less than DMC1. RE4 sold less than REmake (as far as Japan is concerned and it barely tied it in the US.) However, obviously--thus the benefit of next-gen (new consoles). MGS4 will sell more than MGS3, DMC4 will sell more than DMC3, Tekken 6 will sell more than Tekken 5, DOA4 will sell more than DOAU, RE5 will sell more than RE4 etc.
4) The reason Japanese companies don't advertise so much in foriegn regions is because they make majority of profit in Japane sales. Given things like tariiffs, dilution of money, exchange rate, and most importantly, the fact that in Japan, games cost more--companies like Capcom are focused on Japan. What is 300,000 sales in Japan is equivalent to what...500,000 in North America (numbers out of my ass, but hopefully the point came through)
5) RE4 shipped to retail about 1.3 million. That's good. The PS2 version should at least do half of that for a grand total of 2 million worldwide. 98% of game titles in this industry do worse.
2) All gamecube to PS2 ports of Capcom games, have sold more on the GC. It's a simple as that. Blame the heavy amount of casuals or piracy on the PS2, whatever. Numbers are numbers.
3) Many sequals sell less than a previous iteration in the franchise when it's released on the same console/platform. Tekken 5 sold less than 4. MGS3 sold less than 2. DMC3 sold less than DMC1. RE4 sold less than REmake (as far as Japan is concerned and it barely tied it in the US.) However, obviously--thus the benefit of next-gen (new consoles). MGS4 will sell more than MGS3, DMC4 will sell more than DMC3, Tekken 6 will sell more than Tekken 5, DOA4 will sell more than DOAU, RE5 will sell more than RE4 etc.
4) The reason Japanese companies don't advertise so much in foriegn regions is because they make majority of profit in Japane sales. Given things like tariiffs, dilution of money, exchange rate, and most importantly, the fact that in Japan, games cost more--companies like Capcom are focused on Japan. What is 300,000 sales in Japan is equivalent to what...500,000 in North America (numbers out of my ass, but hopefully the point came through)
5) RE4 shipped to retail about 1.3 million. That's good. The PS2 version should at least do half of that for a grand total of 2 million worldwide. 98% of game titles in this industry do worse.
Nick Laslett
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I haven't seen a PSP on the selves since launch day.
I go into Game, HMV & Virgin once a week. No sign of PSPs where I live.
I expect them to be in short supply until at least Easter.
I go into Game, HMV & Virgin once a week. No sign of PSPs where I live.
I expect them to be in short supply until at least Easter.
Gaybrush Threepio
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This weeks' sales -
DS = 35,000 units
Game Boy (including SP and Micro) 25,000 units
PSP = 16,000 units
Surprised by the lack of performance on Resi 4 on PS2, thought that would be top three.
1 in 5 PSP owners in the UK bought GTA in the first couple of days of launch - not that bad a performance for them.
DS = 35,000 units
Game Boy (including SP and Micro) 25,000 units
PSP = 16,000 units
Surprised by the lack of performance on Resi 4 on PS2, thought that would be top three.
1 in 5 PSP owners in the UK bought GTA in the first couple of days of launch - not that bad a performance for them.
Mook1e
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Izzy said:Very, very impressive numbers for Liberty City Stories! Battlefront is also selling surprisingly well on the handheld! It strikes me as odd that there's only a single DS game in the top 40 (Nintendogs at No.38) - and no love for Castlevania; not even in the DS chart.
But Lumines is up on the PSP charts - and so is Wipeout Pure!
Never mind :lol
Gaybrush Threepio
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Bundled games are not reflected in the UK charts. If they were Nintendogs would be in the top 7 or 8 software sales.
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Gaybrush Threepio said:
I don't know how they do it, but Nintendo is the shit when it comes to handhelds. If they were on their guard like this during the transition from the SNES to the N64, they would still be running the show.
Myoclonic Jerk
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Thanks again for the numbers Threepio!
Handheld sales the past 4 weeks in the UK:
NDS: 112,527
GBA/M: 59,333
PSP: 55,623
Puppy power in a 3rd continent now! Those are awesome numbers for the DS. And with or without a shortage in the UK, those numbers just aren't very good for the PSP. Those numbers are for its 2nd month of sales since launch - so it looks as though the PSP only had a one-month launch effect in the UK. I'm guessing that shortages must have had something to do with that, because that is an awfully short launch boost. For the DS to more than double PSP sales, in the 2nd month of the PSP's release is just extraordinary.
Handheld sales the past 4 weeks in the UK:
NDS: 112,527
GBA/M: 59,333
PSP: 55,623
Puppy power in a 3rd continent now! Those are awesome numbers for the DS. And with or without a shortage in the UK, those numbers just aren't very good for the PSP. Those numbers are for its 2nd month of sales since launch - so it looks as though the PSP only had a one-month launch effect in the UK. I'm guessing that shortages must have had something to do with that, because that is an awfully short launch boost. For the DS to more than double PSP sales, in the 2nd month of the PSP's release is just extraordinary.
marc^o^ said:
Gaybrush Threepio has been kind enough to post the numbers each of the past 4 weeks. If I recall correctly, he works for Nintendo, and he is a trusted poster around here. (I also assume that the fact that the DS has outsold the PSP each of the past 4 weeks also has something to do with him posting the numbers
) There seems to be a duel between Izzy and Threepio. Izzy posts any positive PSP news in the UK, and Threepio responds with any positive DS news.