No offense, but I feel like you're giving me an awfully large amount of lenience Flux. You had several chances to push me like you did others, but every time the opportunity came up, you backed off. Why?
I'm not about needlessly piling onto somebody as though this was a Darrly lead crusade. You don't give me strong reads either way, which is why you're leaning more towards neutral to me than positively Town.A lot of where players stand in relation to each other has been established, but I haven't heard anything from you aside from when you replied to cabot's preliminary list. What are your feelings?
What do you guys think of a Sophia eviction, Bats / Ultron / RNH?
For what it's worth, I don't get much of a scum vibe from Style. I remember my first game, my own misunderstanding of the rules led to people suspecting me of being scum. Let's see how things develop in a few days.
Strikes me as odd someone would think the wolves would use the strategy of going a no-kill night for the express purpose of baiting a roleblocker into admitting they roleblocked. Just odd logic.But if they opted not to make a night kill, they would be baiting out a roleblocker right now. It's too risky.
I don't disagree, but I also don't think it's a good idea for a roleblocker to role claim. For one thing, we don't even know what other abilities are in play yet, and the no-kill could have happened for any number of reasons.
On point! I just wanted to confirm your thoughts on all that and after seeing them I can safely say that you are removed from my Day1 possible scum list...for the time being.
VOTE: FluxWaveZ
Because the other guy got banned and I might forget to vote tomorrow. And my view has changed on Flux completely, the constant squabble between the two has made me so uncertain that I think it's worth voting on.
More to come?
Me, too, now that I'm his top suspect for whatever reason. He and batsnacks both trying to pile onto me at the eleventh hour--the latter of which is voting for me not because I'm suspicious but rather because I'm unremarkable--seems odd to me.I'm getting bad vibes from Tim tbqh.
Me, too, now that I'm his top suspect for whatever reason. He and batsnacks both trying to pile onto me at the eleventh hour--the latter of which is voting for me not because I'm suspicious but rather because I'm unremarkable--seems odd to me.
Septimus - Suspicious. The vote for Ando, the weird one-off posts, the random defense of Style:
This really odd comment:
Strikes me as odd someone would think the wolves would use the strategy of going a no-kill night for the express purpose of baiting a roleblocker into admitting they roleblocked. Just odd logic.
I don't think it's a good idea for a roleblocker to claim right now, either. Unless they think they have some useful information. Which they may. It's not really a call Septimus can make going by what we know.
Septimus has done two things during the course of the game, as far as I can tell: going over possibilities for what happened on N1 to have zero night kills, and putting a vote on Ando. Additionally, he chimed in to defend Style really quick yesterday, and now has unvoted Ando and just said he doesn't have a read on anyone.
He's suspect #1.
This is the first decent argument I've heard all day. Could just be a new player finding their footing, but it's better than what we have on anyone else right now.
I was going to vote for Andodalf, but I just noticed someone else has and I'm not too keen on bandwagoning at this point. I'm going to wait it out so Andodalf has a chance to defend himself.
Pretty weird that you'd find someone voting for Ando to be suspicious when you said yourself that my argument for him made sense and you considered voting for him.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=186379256&postcount=588
That's fair.Well, now that you are a little more active is nice. You're not "top" suspect, your just one of two.
I'm not going to try to start a bandwagon on you with 4 hours to go. Just giving reads because people are annoyed by my lack of hard stances. For the record, I don't agree with batsnacks logic for voting you -- it doesn't make sense to me.
I find these lists on the first day pretty pointless to be honest. It's nice to see some activity though.
It's not even about finding scum today. It's about setting things up for the next day. You are one of the most reserved players here. Why don't you let more opinions out? Quote some people. Instead you are giving us next to nothing but this useless one-liners dripping with undeserved confidence. You have not helped this game so far. Why should you last another day?
I'm so freakin' lost, to be honest. Unless something special happens near the deadline, one of these will be the person I vote for:
- Sophia
- Lollipop Dave
- Style
- Timeaisis
Three of them are new and also people I recognize from the PersonaGAF community. Because of the former, I don't know how much those reads are warped.
I liked that analysis post by Timeaisis. Actually made him seem Town for once.
Maybe I'll vote El Topo, because that sounds funny.
Weird, I agree with Darryl on something.
Why do people call me Xan
Syle, what do you think of Lollipop Dave?
What is actually suspicious, if you want to go back there, is batsnacks trying to convince a power role to reveal on Day 1 and then saying that roleblockers are not beneficial for town.
It's not a terrible role for village to have, because if they roleblock a wolf kill they can claim and boom! dead wolf.
Trading 1 villager for 1 wolf is extremely village-favored. Roleblocker makes that trade possible and that is the reason it is a good role.
More like a shitty doctor (since they block KP) and a shitty cop (since they can claim who they blocked) combined to made a pretty good role.
Like, yes, it is possible there is a village roleblocker and they were not responsible for the no kill. The point is there are no certainties in this game so you can only go with what's more likely. In my opinion, if there is a village roleblocker and they did block someone last night, I think that is the most likely explanation for the no kill.
Why do people call me Xan
Can I ask why you choose me? I'd also be interested in hearing your thoughts on the others.
Syle, what do you think of Lollipop Dave?
Zero acknowledgement, but it's okay.
I am acknowledging that I am ignoring your request right now.
It's not even about finding scum today. It's about setting things up for the next day. You are one of the most reserved players here. Why don't you let more opinions out? Quote some people. Instead you are giving us next to nothing but this useless one-liners dripping with undeserved confidence. You have not helped this game so far. Why should you last another day?
Time's post wasn't really a list... he didnt mention half the people in the game. I read it more as giving his thoughts on people that were being discussed and then added two people he thought were suspicious.By the way, I hope no one takes my post about lists personal. It is not meant to be insulting or condescending or anything like that.
This is such an empty statement, with all due respect. Lists mean absolutely nothing on the first day. They're not setting up anything. Much later we might look back and attempt to decipher the general behavior of a player, but right now I cannot claim to be able to make an educated guess. Lists? Lists are just a cheap way to seem active and engaged in the discussion, especially on the first day. I don't have a list and I don't have a read.
The only player I find suspicious is Flux, simply due to his initially strong behavior, but I'm reading him more as a neutral role, rather than scum.
The bandwagon strikes me as the oddest part. Four people jumped on him rather quickly. Dave and Ultron particular stand out.
I'm sticking with my vote on Style for now. I believe in what I said earlier in that I don't feel he'll be beneficial to the town in the long run. He's harassed players, he couldn't answer a simple question, he intends to make his vote at the last second in a game where it's instant lynch on majority vote. Even if he flips town, we have no reason to keep him on.
What do you guys think of a Sophia eviction, Bats / Ultron / RNH?
Meta thinking is dangerous though. If we assume werewolves won't vote as a unit, we can be easily led astray by them.
Well I see I have a couple of votes, so that's something. Honestly, I only haven't been posting much because I'm observing while I try to get back into the flow of the game. It's been a few months since I've been involved here, and I feel like I don't have much to add because of it. I know as a former gamerunner I should be on top of this shit and yeah, I know not posting seems suspect, but it's nothing beyond being out of the loop. I'll try to keep up more now that we're almost through day 1.
Guys take a look at the votes.
ultron87/lollipop dave/fluxwavez all voted on the same person twice and the first one was proved to be an innocent villager. Something is fishy here. Time is running out, I hope someone is going to equalize the votes, I don't want to see Xam getting lynched just yet despite having good arguments lined up against him.
Guys take a look at the votes.
ultron87/lollipop dave/fluxwavez all voted on the same person twice and the first one was proved to be an innocent villager. Something is fishy here. Time is running out, I hope someone is going to equalize the votes, I don't want to see Xam getting lynched just yet despite having good arguments lined up against him.
By the way, I hope no one takes my post about lists personal. It is not meant to be insulting or condescending or anything like that.
I mean, I guess? Planning "Okay, Dave, I'm gonna vote and then you vote IMMEDIATELY AFTER ME" would be the worst plan ever.
but ultron87 and lollipop dave on the other hand... Seems like they both just used Flux's spearheading as an excuse to pile votes and get rid of a villager.