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[CrimsonFist]

Any defense I could make at this point probably wouldn't get me anywhere.

A defence I'd like to here is why you said that Ultron's role claim was the "exact same thing" as what yours said, despite his being allegedly paraphrased due to the rules against direct quoting. This was highlighted by Boo Boo'n a few pages back too. Was it just a bad choice of wording on your part?

As I said a while back, scum highlighting themselves in such a way on day 1 would have been a really poor move, which makes it seem an unlikely possibility. But then that could just be down to you being new.

 

[cabot]

Why do you think Ultron is the more suspicious one?

He's the one that claimed first, as a new player I can see Xam seeing the claim and immediately thinking he's a fellow town-aligned sleepwalker and blurting that out.

The anti-town nature of claiming sleepwalker immediately up front has been discussed, Xam just reads to me as an unfortunate innocent caught in the crossfire. He definitely hasn't helped himself with most of his play sheeping me and his unfortunate end right now where he refuses to offer a real defense though.

Also Ultron hasn't really contributed. Though the same could be said last game, and he was a SK.

I don't like Ultron currently.

 

[Burbeting]

Fuck it,

VOTE: Xamtheking

I guess checking the sleepwalkerclaim is worth it, the role is not going help in the long run after the claim, and there is the possibility he is in fact, lying. Xam's play has been anti-town so far, helping scum far more than town.

 

[Xamtheking]

A defence I'd like to here is why you said that Ultron's role claim was the "exact same thing" as what yours said, despite his being allegedly paraphrased due to the rules against direct quoting. This was highlighted by Boo Boo'n a few pages back too. Was it just a bad choice of wording on your part?

As I said a while back, scum highlighting themselves in such a way on day 1 would have been a really poor move, which makes it soeem an unlikely possibility. But then that could just be down to you being new.

I fucked up, man

 

[*Splinter]

...fair enough, point taken.

What's pushing you more to Darryl than to Xam atm?

I don't know, I think its town v town at the moment. FWIW I'd much rather we hit one of the low contributors than either of these two.

 

[ultron87]

There's 2 hours left and the difference between me and another guy is 1, and there was a whole 3 votes on them. There is probably 5 mafia in this game. I have 4 votes. Clearly I have a team working to ensure my safety. Has there been any sign in me arguing over the past 2 days that there has been coordinated support of anything I say? It doesn't even appear people have read the stuff I have said.

I think we saw your team come out to save you somewhere in the 4 votes for Xam after you made it somewhat plausible to do so after your "woe is me" and self vote posts.

Vote: Darryl

 

[Darryl]

Vote: Kingkitty

 

[Xamtheking]

I think we saw your team come out to save you somewhere in the 4 votes for Xam after you made it somewhat plausible to do so after your "woe is me" and self vote posts.

Vote: Darryl

And where have you been

 

[Burbeting]

Drop, are you still here? There is only 30mins left of the day, and you haven't made anyone a deputy yet, I think.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Drop, are you still here? There is only 30mins left of the day, and you haven't made anyone a deputy yet, I think.

He's the sheriff. He'll do his thing, no worries.

 

[Burbeting]

He's the one that claimed first, as a new player I can see Xam seeing the claim and immediately thinking he's a fellow town-aligned sleepwalker and blurting that out.

The anti-town nature of claiming sleepwalker immediately up front has been discussed, Xam just reads to me as an unfortunate innocent caught in the crossfire. He definitely hasn't helped himself with most of his play sheeping me and his unfortunate end right now where he refuses to offer a real defense though.

Also Ultron hasn't really contributed. Though the same could be said last game, and he was a SK.

I don't like Ultron currently.

I kinda have the problem with this, since why Ultron the scum would claim sleepwalker first? I doubt there is a scum sleepwalker (if there is, I'll curse Palmer to the depths of oblivion), and potentially sacrificing one of the scum team just to get a counterclaim of another sleepwalker would be... quite stupid from team scum.

But I agree, ultron has been really quiet and not contributed much at all, which is odd...

 

[cabot]

I don't know if he's scum, just of a choice between the two sleepwalkers I'd kill him.

That's not happening though.

 

[Darryl]

I think we saw your team come out to save you somewhere in the 4 votes for Xam after you made it somewhat plausible to do so after your "woe is me" and self vote posts.

Vote: Darryl

I hope you have all the people who voted for Xam on your scum list and the people voting for me on your town list. You have cracked the case.

 

[CzarTim]

Good morning.

 

[*Splinter]

I kinda have the problem with this, since why Ultron the scum would claim sleepwalker first? I doubt there is a scum sleepwalker (if there is, I'll curse Palmer to the depths of oblivion), and potentially sacrificing one of the scum team just to get a counterclaim of another sleepwalker would be... quite stupid from team scum.

But I agree, ultron has been really quiet and not contributed much at all, which is odd...

I don't really see Cabot suggesting that? The benefit to scum in claiming sleepwalker is it gives them an excuse when town trackers see them moving around.

Rats made the suggestion that it was to draw a counterclaim, but that was a couple of days ago

 

[Xamtheking]

I hope you have all the people who voted for Xam on your scum list and the people voting for me on your town list. You have cracked the case.

Detective Ultron is on the case

Good morning.

Good morning

 

[Ourobolus]

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terrabyte20xx 258 (788)

cabot (1)
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style 814

darryl (6)
cornburrito 364 (853)
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czartim 719
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xamtheking 845
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*splinter 884
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fluxwavez 693 (695)

timeaisis (0)
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cornburrito (0)
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xamtheking (9)
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swamped (0)
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batsnacks (1)
darryl 660 (850)
mattyg 793

starsketch (3)
cabot 699
xamtheking 838 (845)
drop 848
drop 848

ultron87 (1)
rats off to ya 783

zippedpinhead (0)
terrabyte20xx 788 (876)

lollipop dave (1)
fluxwavez 792

kingkitty (1)
darryl 907

 

[Burbeting]

I don't really see Cabot suggesting that? The benefit to scum in claiming sleepwalker is it gives them an excuse when town trackers see them moving around.

Rats made the suggestion that it was to draw a counterclaim, but that was a couple of days ago

Cabot suggested that Ultron was more suspicious, than Xamtheking so I just thought out the different possibilities why Ultron the scum might claim sleepwalker. Yeah, cabot didn't suggest those by himself.

 

[*Splinter]

I don't know if he's scum, just of a choice between the two sleepwalkers I'd kill him.

That's not happening though.

Agree with this

In fact it's probably too late to matter now, but I don't like having my vote end on a player I wouldn't want to lynch

VOTE: Ultron87

This is not as a response to his recent post. That was a fine point (but the first one he's made all game)

 

[cabot]

Style completely fucked up, voted me under a false assumption.

Still hasn't reverted his admitted mistake vote, 25 minutes before deadline.

Noted.

 

[Darryl]

Vote: Ultron87

 

[CzarTim]

uvote

Still reading. I feel like scum-darryl would be putting up a better fight than a pity party.

 

[Xamtheking]

Vote: Ultron87
In the end, it doesn't even matter

 

[*Splinter]

4 on Ultron, 9 on Xam

FWIW, a last minute swing is the best chance of catching scum D1 (or a PR, but I think we can rule that out)

 

[Burbeting]

Vote: Ultron87
In the end, it doesn't even matter

It's never over till the deadline comes.

I'll look at ultrons posts bit more.

 

[CzarTim]

eh not really feeling a sleepwalker vote. Would be a hell of a gambit.

 

[Warxard]

I fucked up, man

wow lol

 

[cabot]

Vote: Ultron87
In the end, it doesn't even matter

 

[GreatLord Tiger]

Vote: Ultron87

I'll see where this leads

 

[Warxard]

I'm keeping my vote on Xam. Essentially lying about his PR by going off of what Ultron said and admitting it near the end is a hell of a red flag.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I guess my vote on Lollipop Dave won't do anything right now. People will come around sooner or later, though.

For now, I'd rather see Ultron lynched than Xam, because the former makes me more wary than the latter.

VOTE: ultron87

It had to come down to the sleepwalkers, huh...

 

[CornBurrito]

hmm....

Unvote

 

[*Splinter]

I think that Corn's unvote makes it 6-7 still on Xam. 15ish minutes

 

[CornBurrito]

I'll vote for Ultron if one other person does. To prevent a tie. Otherwise it will be 7-7.

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

If you say so:

VOTE: Ultron87

 

[Burbeting]

Okay, read through all Ultron's posts once more, there was not lot of them.

- I still think his reasoning to claim sleepwalker is flawed, it's not the same as miller. It's kind of a weird thing.
- Why do you believe Xam is telling the truth, Ultron? I believed it, because I don't think a new player would make a scumplan like that from a while, but what was your reasoning?
- Do you think scumteam is going to save scum-Darryl this visibly? A wise scum-team would more likely bus him, and gather some good guy points, the Scum team must be big enough, that saving one member is not worth exposing many others.

Hmmh.

 

[ultron87]

Yeah, clearly I was on the classic scum play of "shine a light on myself immediately".

 

[cabot]

Well, I guess I better put my mouth where your balls are, CB.

VOTE: ultron87

 

[CzarTim]

hmm....

Unvote

Need a shoe shine, corny? I can help with that.

 

[RobotNinjaHornets]

Excuse me but what the fuck is happening

 

[ultron87]

- Do you think scumteam is going to save scum-Darryl this visibly? A wise scum-team would more likely bus him, and gather some good guy points, the Scum team must be big enough, that saving one member is not worth exposing many others.

Not all of them, obviously. But one or two could certainly be in there to get the ball rolling.

 

[Burbeting]

I still feel Xam is the more suspicious of the two sleepwalker-claims, after reading Ultron's posts, even though those did raise some questions. I'm going to keep my vote with Xam, I don't think Ultron would claim sleepwalker as a scum, and I doubt there is a scum sleepwalker.

 

[ultron87]

Vote: XamTheKing

If it's me or him he might be a wolf sleepwalker. I know I'm not.

 

[Ourobolus]

*splinter (0)
cabot 191 (383)
terrabyte20xx 258 (788)

cabot (1)
swamped 201 (790)
lollipop dave 582 (717)
style 814

darryl (4)
cornburrito 364 (853)
batsnacks 663
czartim 719
starsketch 735 (754)
swamped 790
xamtheking 845 (923)
darryl 850 (907)
*splinter 884 (919)
ultron87 906

fluxwavez (0)
cabot 383 (452)
fluxwavez 693 (695)
fluxwavez 693 (695)

timeaisis (0)
cabot 452 (491)
xamtheking 477 (495)

cornburrito (0)
darryl 475 (660)
batsnacks 630 (663)

robotninjahornets (0)
cabot 491 (699)
fluxwavez 610 (693)
xamtheking 611 (617)
fluxwavez 695 (792)
*splinter 866 (884)

style (3)
lollipop dave 504 (582)
zippedpinhead 625 (691)
zippedpinhead 691
crimsonfist 716 (811)
kingkitty 756
fireblend 779

xamtheking (6)
makai 511
boo boo'n 634
starsketch 794
cornburrito 853 (932)
robotninjahornets 871
terrabyte20xx 876 (935)
greatlord tiger 877 (929)
lollipop dave 881
burbeting 903

quantumbro (0)
kingkitty 536 (756)
batsnacks 605 (630)

swamped (0)
czartim 552 (719)

batsnacks (1)
darryl 660 (850)
mattyg 793

starsketch (2)
cabot 699 (938)
xamtheking 838 (845)
drop 848
drop 848

ultron87 (8)
rats off to ya 783
*splinter 919
darryl 921
xamtheking 923
greatlord tiger 929
fluxwavez 931
terrabyte20xx 935
cabot 938

zippedpinhead (0)
terrabyte20xx 788 (876)

lollipop dave (0)
fluxwavez 792 (931)

kingkitty (0)
darryl 907 (921)

EDIT: Dammit, ultron. This tally doesn't include his vote above.

 

[*Splinter]

7-8 Ultron
10 minutes

 

[Darryl]

Vote: Starsketch

 

[Ourobolus]

*splinter (0)
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cornburrito 364 (853)
batsnacks 663
czartim 719
starsketch 735 (754)
swamped 790
xamtheking 845 (923)
darryl 850 (907)
*splinter 884 (919)
ultron87 906 (943)

fluxwavez (0)
cabot 383 (452)
fluxwavez 693 (695)
fluxwavez 693 (695)

timeaisis (0)
cabot 452 (491)
xamtheking 477 (495)

cornburrito (0)
darryl 475 (660)
batsnacks 630 (663)

robotninjahornets (0)
cabot 491 (699)
fluxwavez 610 (693)
xamtheking 611 (617)
fluxwavez 695 (792)
*splinter 866 (884)

style (3)
lollipop dave 504 (582)
zippedpinhead 625 (691)
zippedpinhead 691
crimsonfist 716 (811)
kingkitty 756
fireblend 779

xamtheking (7)
makai 511
boo boo'n 634
starsketch 794
cornburrito 853 (932)
robotninjahornets 871
terrabyte20xx 876 (935)
greatlord tiger 877 (929)
lollipop dave 881
burbeting 903
ultron87 943

quantumbro (0)
kingkitty 536 (756)
batsnacks 605 (630)

swamped (0)
czartim 552 (719)

batsnacks (1)
darryl 660 (850)
mattyg 793

starsketch (3)
cabot 699 (938)
xamtheking 838 (845)
drop 848
drop 848
darryl 946

ultron87 (7)
rats off to ya 783
*splinter 919
darryl 921 (946)
xamtheking 923
greatlord tiger 929
fluxwavez 931
terrabyte20xx 935
cabot 938

zippedpinhead (0)
terrabyte20xx 788 (876)

lollipop dave (0)
fluxwavez 792 (931)

kingkitty (0)
darryl 907 (921)

 

[*Splinter]

Vote is tied

 

[Burbeting]

And this is an example why deputising vote leader is a problem, it can change in an eyeblick. ..

 

[CornBurrito]

Need a shoe shine, corny? I can help with that.

Personally I've felt that Xam's claim was more suspect than Ultrons. Said so early on.

But with the vote swinging away from him I felt it was best to unvote and reorganize myself.