What About the Next Game Boy? Matt responds
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radioheadrule83
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I see what he's saying but I think he's wrong.
GBA SP was an iteration of an existing product. That and GBA are the same platform essentially. Not to mention there's been a new GBA unit every two/three years since they deviated from the original 10 year Gameboy model anyway. DS is different because it has two screens, touch screen, wifi and a built in microphone. Potentially, it can be used for non-game applications, as well as it can games. And as a precautionary measure, it has GBA backwards compatability. Why would people be confused between that and something which does only some, or none of those things? There'd be no confusion about it IMO.
The next Gameboy could just be a simple powered up games device. It could have wifi too I guess. But there's enough feature differentiation there for them to co-exist IMO. Especially if they're in two different price tiers. Which they would be by the time a new GBA arrived.
Simply put.. I feel Matt's talking like this prematurely. DS will have good games and applications that use it's features... it doesn't have them yet. I'm not so sure it should be judged so harshly, so early. Especially when it's doing so well with such a weak launch lineup. If it successfully differentiates itself from other products, which it still could, then people would happily buy one AND a new Gameboy. It's too early for this yet.
GBA SP was an iteration of an existing product. That and GBA are the same platform essentially. Not to mention there's been a new GBA unit every two/three years since they deviated from the original 10 year Gameboy model anyway. DS is different because it has two screens, touch screen, wifi and a built in microphone. Potentially, it can be used for non-game applications, as well as it can games. And as a precautionary measure, it has GBA backwards compatability. Why would people be confused between that and something which does only some, or none of those things? There'd be no confusion about it IMO.
The next Gameboy could just be a simple powered up games device. It could have wifi too I guess. But there's enough feature differentiation there for them to co-exist IMO. Especially if they're in two different price tiers. Which they would be by the time a new GBA arrived.
Simply put.. I feel Matt's talking like this prematurely. DS will have good games and applications that use it's features... it doesn't have them yet. I'm not so sure it should be judged so harshly, so early. Especially when it's doing so well with such a weak launch lineup. If it successfully differentiates itself from other products, which it still could, then people would happily buy one AND a new Gameboy. It's too early for this yet.
IBTBOM
He raises some valid points. I have always maintained that DS will be viewed as the next Gameboy regardless of what Nintendo insists. The fact that they are (not surprisingly) cutting back GBA development in favour of the DS just about confirms their duplicity.
I won't pretend to know how the DS/PSP scuffle is going to turn out as there are too many variables at this point. However, I can hardly say the cannon balls are hitting Nintendo's castle walls just yet. It may be Sony's own fault, but both Nintendo handhelds continue to sell very well on a weekly basis.
He raises some valid points. I have always maintained that DS will be viewed as the next Gameboy regardless of what Nintendo insists. The fact that they are (not surprisingly) cutting back GBA development in favour of the DS just about confirms their duplicity.
I won't pretend to know how the DS/PSP scuffle is going to turn out as there are too many variables at this point. However, I can hardly say the cannon balls are hitting Nintendo's castle walls just yet. It may be Sony's own fault, but both Nintendo handhelds continue to sell very well on a weekly basis.
Kutaragi Hirai
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wow, Matt is quaking the earth by his great visions, well, no joking, he is honest, logical,
neutral and he threw all the bigotry behind his back... go on Matt you are the best.
neutral and he threw all the bigotry behind his back... go on Matt you are the best.
norinrad21
Banned
Matt is a freaking spoiled brat, bitches and moans everyday about what Nintendo did wrong. He should get over the fact that Nintendo will probably never be #1 again. Most of us Nintendo fans got over that after the ass whoping and floor mopping when the PSX arrived.
Do The Mario
Unconfirmed Member
If Matt wants to wait for the GBA2 I hope he can hold his breath for 4 years.
I hope he gives it a stab!
I hope he gives it a stab!
SantaC
Member
Finally found this quote:
http://adventures.ngenres.com/editorials/130.html
Seems like Nintendo has exceed those 10% expectations. That clearly means that the DS is a third pillar product. GBA2 is coming.
http://adventures.ngenres.com/editorials/130.html
Seems like Nintendo has exceed those 10% expectations. That clearly means that the DS is a third pillar product. GBA2 is coming.
Red Dolphin
Member
Borys said:
I can't understand the amount of crap that Matt gets about his opinions. If it's anything negative about Nintendo ppl are quick to bitch about it. Why do ppl take it so personally? He's entitled to his opinion. It's constructive criticism the majority of the time. What makes his opinion any less valid then anyone here on these messageboards? Just because he's a journalist, he's not allowed to state his opinion on Nintendo if it's negative but everyone else here can?
I don't think even Matt expects Nintendo to become No 1 again anytime soon but if Nintendo continues to make the mistakes they have been making, their profits will continue to drop until they become so niche that the profits are next to nothing. I'd much rather see someone like Matt running a Nintendo site then some blind fanboy that can see no wrong in the company. If you don't like his opinions, DON'T go to IGNCube. And if you don't go there, don't come into a topic about him and bitch and moan. Jesus..
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GBA SP will continue to sell buttloads in 2005. It will slow a little, maybe, but it's still going to clean house 'cause it's cheap, small, still has lots of support and a huge library already.
The DS has started off nicely and will continue to do pretty well, imo, especially if they get a few more big software releases (Castlevania, more marios, a metroid, etc.) along with some more software apps that might attract non-gamers.
The PSP will kick lots of ass when it's released, as well, but it won't demolish either the DS or the SP, imo. At E3 2006, Nintendo will demonstrate the GBA 2, a backwards compatible games-focused system and it will further show why DS is differentiated from the GBA line (more apps, more unique/original games, etc.). The GBA 2 will go head to head with the PSP for a few years and both will do great. The DS ($99), SP ($49), and the GBA 2 ($199) will make for a powerful offering lineup for Nintendo because each one will still be sought well into 2006, imo.
The DS has started off nicely and will continue to do pretty well, imo, especially if they get a few more big software releases (Castlevania, more marios, a metroid, etc.) along with some more software apps that might attract non-gamers.
The PSP will kick lots of ass when it's released, as well, but it won't demolish either the DS or the SP, imo. At E3 2006, Nintendo will demonstrate the GBA 2, a backwards compatible games-focused system and it will further show why DS is differentiated from the GBA line (more apps, more unique/original games, etc.). The GBA 2 will go head to head with the PSP for a few years and both will do great. The DS ($99), SP ($49), and the GBA 2 ($199) will make for a powerful offering lineup for Nintendo because each one will still be sought well into 2006, imo.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Red Dolphin said:
We're not saying his opinions are invalid. Maybe people are acknowledging that he writes for a professional site... maybe he shouldn't be so quick to pass judgement and make assumptions?
And don't tell us what we can and can't post in threads about him please. On what authority are you doing that exactly? We'll disagree with IGN editors and voice that fact if and when we want. We'll visit whatever sites we want too thank you very much.
HOW on EARTH would people be confused between a DS and a new Gameboy (which wouldn't be with us for about a year)? The DS has two screens and comes with a freaking PEN. Even if the next Gameboy had wifi and a built in mic, there'd still be that difference. Not to mention the possibility of some kind of graphical leap. And only being, what is it now - A MONTH - into the launch of the DS, how can he assume there won't be unique titles that take advantage of the unique features of the system? Of course GBA development is winding down. TWO more powerful systems with newer, better features are on or coming to market. One of them plays old GBA games to aid the transition. A new Gameboy wouldn't play games that require a pen, or use voice control... so why exactly would that be dropped again? It's an assumption. And I *gasp* don't agree with it.
I'm sorry, I really like Matt but to me it just reads like he's sorry Nintendo never released the PSP instead, even though everything they've said indicates they'll introduce a true competitor in future. I understand his frustration that the company does some conservative things... I'm sure many Nintendo fans understand that. But it's way too early to be writing DS off, and envisioning any pre-doomed vision of a next gen Gameboy. No wonder people wonder whether he should really be writing on one of the Nintendo sites at IGN sometimes.
I'm just glad that a potentially refreshing product is doing well in spite of bad press like this.
Red Dolphin
Member
radioheadrule83 said:
I'm just sick of seeing these "Matt threads" pop up everytime he says something negative about Nintendo. And then it's the same ppl bitching about how he sucks and he shouldn't write for a Nintendo site. I don't care if you don't agree with him but I'm just sick of hearing the same complaints EVERYTIME with nothing constructive to say.
And I think the majority of ppl that complain about him don't even read IGN anyway. I can't see why the ppl that hate Matt and/or his opinions continue to read his stuff. That's why I mentioned not to bother reading it if that's the case. i.e. Don't visit IGN or these Matt topics UNLESS you have something constructive to say.
It's all a ploy, I tells ya. The DS is little more than an in-between system trick meant to convince Sony that this is the best Nintendo can offer. The PSP arrives, then BAM, Nintendo releases the Gameboy 2, with multiple-core G5 processors, two Secure Digital slots, MP3 and MPEG4 video support, and games that come on Gamecube-size discs. AND it's backwards-compatible with the Gamecube. It's happening, oh yes, it is. <Proceeds to comb hair obsessively while repeating 'such a pretty, pretty girl'...>
Red Dolphin
Member
Deg said:
Good point ;p
I'm expecting TOO much!
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Matt-ign said:
what nintendo representative in their right mind would ever admit to this.. just strange if you ask me.
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Defensor said:
seriously.. someone so jaded and seemingly pissed off at nintendo should not be writing on a site dedicated to them..
Red Dolphin said:
Well put! Might I add that anyone covering GC/DS/GBA should be concentrating their focus on what Nintendo does have. GC has over 300 games last time I looked with plenty of gems depending on your favorite genre. And GBA/DS are doing just fine saleswise at the moment.
Why is this man working the Nintendo site if he casts doom at every turn? There's plenty positive to talk about and absolutely no reason to cast doubt on his impressionable (most likely young-ish) readers. I question anybody who measures self-confidence by the brand of entertainment. If he's so disillusioned he needs to be fired or jump ship to Sony.
Saki said:They'll obviously integrate DS's abilities into the new GB since it has been so well recieved.
One of the aims of releasing the DS was probably to test the market's acceptance of the DS' capabilities.
As a consumer, I don't think so.
Dude, if you're squeezing and twisting your beautiful PSP that hard, you deserve to have it vomiting discs.
Gaia Theory
Member
refreshZ said:
[fea-ture] A prominent or distinctive aspect, quality.
Featureless? That's a joke. I don't know what kind of blinders you've got on, but ask any developer in the industry why the PSP features wifi and they'll tell you because they learned that Nintendo was using it in the DS.
Touch screen? Built-in mic? No, those aren't features are they? Dual Screen? Nope, not a feature. Even the shape could be described as a feature. But hey, having the ability to play movies on a UMD when there are absolutely no UMD movies available at the moment makes that a very interesting and sell-able feature right?
Sure, wifi isn't being used yet either, but for arguments sake, the DS is certainly NOT featureless. But you are obviously blind, sir, so I apologize that you are unable to see that.
Gaia Theory
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Nice cover. :lol
But, even if that was the case, the DS is as distinctive looking as they come.
But, even if that was the case, the DS is as distinctive looking as they come.
mashoutposse
Ante Up
PSP was slated to have WiFi way before the DS was announced.
Gaia Theory
Member
mashoutposse said:
Do some research.
p_xavier
Authorized Fister
Gaia Theory said:
From psp.ign.com
July 29th 2003 Specs:
PSP CPU CORE
MIPS R4000 32bit Core
128bit Bus
1 - 333MHz @ 1.2V
Main Memory :8MB(eDRAM) (**Changed to 32MB, 4MB embedded in May 2004)
Bus Bandwidth :2.6GB/sec
I-Cache, D-Cache
FPU, VFPU (Vector Unit) @ 2.6GFlops
3D-CG Extended Instructions
PSP Media Engine
MIPS R4000 32bit Core
128bit Bus
1 - 333MHz @ 1.2V
Sub Memory:2MB(eDRAM) @ 2.6GB/sec
I-Cache, D-Cache
90nm CMOS
PSP Graphics Core 1
3D Curved Surface + 3D Polygon
Compressed Texture
Hardware Clipping, Morphing, Bone(8)
Hardware Tessellator
Bezier, B-Spline(NURBS)
ex 4x4, 16x16, 64x64 sub-division
PSP Graphics Core 2
'Rendering Engine' + 'Surface Engine'
256bit Bus, 1-166 MHz @ 1.2V (**Changed to 512bit Bus in final version)
VRAM :2MB(eDRAM)
Bus Bandwidth :5.3GB/sec
Pixel Fill Rate :664 M pixels/sec
max 33 M polygon /sec(T&L)
24bit Full Color:RGBA
PSP Sound Core: VME
Reconfigurable DSPs
128bit Bus
166MHz @1.2V
5 Giga Operations /sec
CODEC
3D Sound, Multi-Channel
Synthesizer, Effecter, etc
UMD(Universal Media Disc)
60mm
Laser Diode:660nm
Dual Layer :1.8GB
Transfer Rate:11Mbps
Shock Proof
Secure ROM by AES
Unique Disc ID
AVC Decoder
AVC(H.264) Decoder
Main Profile
Baseline Profile
@Level1,Level2,Level3
2Hours(High Quality) - DVD movie
4Hours(Standard Quality) - CS Digital
I/O
USB 2.0
Memory Stick
Extension Port(reserved)
Stereo Head phone Out
Communication
Wireless LAN (i802.11)
IrDA
USB 2.0
mashoutposse
Ante Up
Gaia Theory said:
From mid-2003
wobedraggled
Banned
IGN Cube needs a new writer, Matt is far to wishy washy to be there.
Tritroid said:
Exactly. He's an idiot and he is part of the problem. I like how he talks about the colour purple being wrong etc. and then he colours the Nintendo console sections purple. IGN have also changed the GBA and DS parts to purple/pink themselves now. What was the point of changing to pink/purple from white/silver? :lol
They truly shouldnt be covering these websites.