StaffyManasse
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I really can't make a list, but too have to mention Hyperion (Cantos) as the clear favourite.
Huh, cool. Thank you. Which series do you think has the stronger characters? More immersive writing?
Also, quite surprised I haven't seen much love for the Kingkiller Chronicles considering the universal praise.
[*]City of Saints and Madmen, by Jeff VanderMeer
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[*]Shriek: An Afterword, by Jeff VanderMeer
[*]The Sparrow, by Mary Doria Russell[/list]
You KNOW it killed me to leave all three of those out. KILLED. And no Bujold from me. If we had a "ten best fantasy" Penric and Desdemona would be on it for me.
For you, Queen of Angels. It's the story of a poet in a society where everyone is required to receive therapy. He uses neurotechnology to go strange places in his brain, and terrible things happen. It features a police officer with orca skin, a device called a hellcrown used by puritan terrorists, and a healthy dose of syncretic voodoo/catholicism.And you listed entire series, too! Of your list, I haven't read any entries from:
Great Sky River Series -- Gregory Benford
Mars Trilogy - Kim Stanley Robinson
The White Plague - Frank Herbert
Ringworld Series -- Larry Niven
Years of Rice and Salt -- Kim Stanley Robinson
Manifold Trilogy -- Stephen Baxter
Diaspora - Greg Egan
Kiln People -- David Brin
Queen of Angels - Greg Bear
Culture Series - Iain M Banks
Clearly someone has been derelict in their evangelistic responsibilities.
The City & the City might be my favourite Mieville book. I loved when the whole thing finally clicked for me.The City & The City is definitely a speculative fiction book, but might not really be fantasy or scifi. It pulls off a bizarre premise really well.
The Mote in God's Eye
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In my opinion this is the finest SF novel I have read. The story follows an expedition sent to make first contact with an alien civilization. The science is not the focus, the people are, and it is ultimately about dealing with an alien psychology.
Have heard about since forever, but never actually even read a synopsis of it. Your two other choices are among my very favorites, so I think it is about time I check The Mote in God's Eye.
Not my all-time favorites, but are often overlooked:
Inherit the Stars by James P. Hogan
Voyage of the Space Beagle by AE Van Vogt
The Stars my Destination by Alfred Bester
What are some you've read that you didn't like?
Hell yes. Dawn and Wild Seed are pretty much tied as my favorites by her. Mind of My Mind is good too, but it was written earlier in her career and it shows. I like Fledgling and Parable of the Sower a lot too. Everything else by her is good, except for Patternmaster. That was one of her first books and it's the only one I straight up don't like.I haven't read ten ones that I like (excluding the entire Harry Potter series), but I'll go ahead and just say that everyone should read Wild Seed by Octavia Butler.
The City & the City might be my favourite Mieville book. I loved when the whole thing finally clicked for me.
I see much love for Dune in here. All is well then.
What makes that NJO book stand out? I'm wary about touching any of the EU, but I'm also a sucker for things that are Star Wars and also good.I am not well read in the sci-fi and fantasy genres. Please excuse any glaring omissions. Also, I may have my genres mixed up.
1. The Culture series by Iain M. Banks (The first three are a brilliant intro to the series. Read in release order. Skip Inversions because there's like one brief scene of cool Culture stuff and the rest is vanilla medieval fantasy.)
2. The Book of the New Sun (four volumes) + The Urth of the New Sun by Gene Wolf (The essential sequel that will blow your mind with how it ties all of the insane time traveling stuff together.)
3. The Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien
4. Harry Potter series by J.K. Rowling
5. A Song of Ice and Fire series by George R.R. Martin
6. Redwall series by Brian Jacques
7. The Last Question by Isaac Asimov (A short story.)
8. The New Jedi Order: Traitor by Matthew Stover
9. At The Mountains of Madness by H.P. Lovecraft (A shortish story. A novella?)
10. Halo: The Fall of Reach by Eric Nylund
I am partway through the audiobook of Dune and it is brilliant. So that will have to steal a place on my list eventually.
I am reading American Gods right now because I want to experience the source material before the show. 43% in and it's very good.
The Sandman (by Neil Gaiman) and Lucifer (by Mike Carey) graphic novel series would be close to the top of my list if they counted.
"A man wants his virility regarded. A woman wants her femininity appreciated, however indirect and subtle the indications of regard and appreciation. [Here] one is respected and judged only as a human being. It is an appalling experience."
"I think," Tehanu said in her soft, strange voice, "that when I die, I can breathe back the breath that made me live. I can give back to the world all that I didn't do. All that I might have been and couldn't be. All the choices I didn't make. All the things I lost and spent and wasted. I can give them back to the world. To the lives that haven't been lived yet. That will be my gift back to the world that gave me the life I did live, the love I loved, the breath I breathed."
"When I was young, I had to choose between the life of being and the life of doing. And I leapt at the latter like a trout to a fly. But each deed you do, each act, binds you to itself and to its consequences, and makes you act again and yet again. Then very seldom do you come upon a space, a time like this, between act and act, when you may stop and simply be. Or wonder who, after all, you are."
"For we each of us deserve everything, every luxury that was ever piled in the tombs of the dead kings, and we each of us deserve nothing, not a mouthful of bread in hunger. Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and you will begin to be able to think."
"The doom of the Elves is to be immortal, to love the beauty of the world, to bring it to full flower with their gifts of delicacy and perfection, to last while it lasts, never leaving it even when ‘slain', but returning – and yet, when the Followers come, to teach them, and make way for them, to ‘fade' as the Followers grow and absorb the life from which both proceed. The Doom (or the Gift) of Men is mortality, freedom from the circles of the world."
"We are served by organic ghosts, he thought, who, speaking and writing, pass through this our new environment. Watching, wise, physical ghosts from the full-life world, elements of which have become for us invading but agreeable splinters of a substance that pulsates like a former heart."
"Come, let us hasten to a higher plane
Where dyads tread the fairy fields of Venn,
Their indices bedecked from one to n
Commingled in an endless Markov chain!
I'll grant thee random access to my heart,
Thou'lt tell me all the constants of thy love;
And so we two shall all love's lemmas prove,
And in our bound partition never part.
Cancel me not — for what then shall remain?
Abscissas some mantissas, modules, modes,
A root or two, a torus and a node:
The inverse of my verse, a null domain.
- Love and Tensor Algebra"
"He walked out in the gray light and stood and he saw for a brief moment the absolute truth of the world. The cold relentless circling of the intestate earth. Darkness implacable. The blind dogs of the sun in their running. The crushing black vacuum of the universe. And somewhere two hunted animals trembling like ground-foxes in their cover. Borrowed time and borrowed world and borrowed eyes with which to sorrow it."
"Beware of Doors."
- Starts out very dark, stays pretty dark.What makes that NJO book stand out? I'm wary about touching any of the EU, but I'm also a sucker for things that are Star Wars and also good.
They picked their way among the mummied figures. The black skin stretched upon the bones and their faces split and shrunken on their skulls. Like victims of some ghastly envacuuming. Passing them in silence down that silent corridor through the drifting ash where they struggled forever in the road's cold coagulate
3. Lord of Light and The Chronicles of Amber - Roger Zelazny
Great Sky River Series -- Gregory Benford
Mars Trilogy - Kim Stanley Robinson
Hyperion -- Dan Simmons
Uplift Series -- David Brin
The White Plague - Frank Herbert
Ringworld Series -- Larry Niven
Years of Rice and Salt -- Kim Stanley Robinson
Manifold Trilogy -- Stephen Baxter
Diaspora - Greg Egan
Kiln People -- David Brin
Queen of Angels - Greg Bear
Culture Series - Iain M Banks
Dune - Frank Herbert
1. Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons (Hyperion)
2. The Forever War by Joe Haldeman
3. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series by Douglas Adams (The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
4. The First Law Series by Joe Abercrombie (Before They Are Hanged)
5. The Culture series by Iain Banks (The Player of Games)
6. The Zones of Thought series by Vernor Vinge (A Fire Upon the Deep)
7. The Revelation Space series by Alastair Reynolds (Redemption Ark)
8. The Hobbit by J. R. R. Tolkien
9. Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson
10. The Expanse by James S. A. Corey (Caliban's War)
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11.Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
12. Dune by Frank Herbert
12. The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson (The Way of Kings)
13. The Ringworld series by Larry Niven (Ringworld)
13. Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan
14. Rendezvous with Rama series by Arthur C. Clarke (Rama II)
15. Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie
16. Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett
17. Foundation series by Isaac Asimov
18. American Gods by Neil Gaiman
19. Quantum Thief by Hannu Rajaniemi
20. Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
This is hard because so many of the science fiction or fantasy novels I've liked have been parts of longer (not trilogies or tetralogies, for instance) series, and it's difficult to divorce them from that. I'm going to only list novels that for me worked on their own. There are multiple books from Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga or Hobbs' multiple series in the Realm of the Elderlings universe, for instance, that I liked every bit as much or sometimes more than the books I've listed, but I find it impossible to treat them as individual works, and the series too large to include as a single entries on the list.
- The Book of the New Sun & The Urth of the New Sun, by Gene Wolfe
- The Goblin Emperor, by Katherine Addison
- Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, by Susanna Clarke
- The Once and Future King, by T.H. White
- Paladin of Souls, by Lois McMaster Bujold
- City of Saints and Madmen, by Jeff VanderMeer
- Riddle-Master (Riddle-Master #1-3), by Patricia A. McKillip
- The Last Unicorn, by Peter S. Beagle
- Shriek: An Afterword, by Jeff VanderMeer
- The Curse of Chalion, by Lois McMaster Bujold
- The Left Hand of Darkness, by Ursula K LeGuin
- The Silmarillion, by J.R.R. Tolkien
- Hyperion, by Dan Simmons
- The Dispossessed, by Ursula K. Le Guin
- The Habitation of the Blessed, by Catherynne M. Valente
- The Golem and the Jinni, by Helene Wecker
- The Man Who Spoke Snakish, by Andrus Kivirähk
- The Sparrow, by Mary Doria Russell
Yeah, I know. It's more than ten. And frankly I could rearrange it wildly and still be more or less fine with the order that popped out.
Oh, and an honorable mention for Valente's Fairyland series. I think that the second book in the series is the best (though I haven't reread them yet to check), but it wouldn't feel right listing it by itself. I'd also say similar things for Mary Stewart's Arthurian novels, at least for the Merlin trilogy. And I haven't read A Song of Ice and Fire since mid-2011, but I recall A Storm of Swords being my favorite. It's also one that I could stick somewhere on that list if it didn't feel a bit off doing so.
Any quality space opera novel u guys can recommend there guys?I am space opera junkies here lol.^^
Yeah, it's easily my favorite Mieville work too. I readily admit that it's not for everyone, but I thought it was amazing and fantastic. My only minor gripe would be thatBreach is initially hinted as having some sort of supernatural element to it, but then it turns out that everyone just thinks they're from the opposite city that they are.