What category should Steam Machine be classed under?

Which category?

  • PC

    Votes: 237 67.1%

  • Console

    Votes: 44 12.5%

  • Hybrid

    Votes: 72 20.4%
  • Total voters
    353
Parazels said:
That's yet another sign we are talking about a console. You don't need to "slap" anything onto your Steam Machine, because everything works perfectly, right out of the box.
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What? No it does not. Do you know anything about SteamOS or Linux gaming? "Out of the box" is simply not true. Try and play BF6 on the Steam Machine, see what happens.
 
Zathalus said:
What? No it does not. Do you know anything about SteamOS or Linux gaming? "Out of the box" is simply not true. Try and play BF6 on the Steam Machine, see what happens.
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Thats not Valves problem. If devs actively doesnt want to support linux...and rather prefer to force everyone on windows...than thats there own (questionable) decision.
 
poppabk said:
Until Valve lock down the software so you can only play games through their software - then no - not everyone has the same thing - they just have the same hardware.
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That's fair.

TBH all consoles except the Switch are PCs now. It's the same hardware and same x86 code.

So we're saying what really makes a console is a locked down BIOS that will only boot the manufacturer's OS
 
pudel said:
Thats not Valves problem. If devs actively doesnt want to support linux...and rather prefer to force everyone on windows...than thats there own (questionable) decision.
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I agree it's not Valves problem, but it shows how dumb "just works out of the box" really is.

It's obvious this person has never used SteamOS before. It's a really nice OS, but it's still PC gaming down to the core, not console. Only an idiot would confuse the two.
 
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Parazels said:
The shape of a thing defines its purpose and its name.
Both the PS5 and the Steam console are shaped for gaming - size, hardware, power efficiency, gamepad, interface, etc. Therefore, both are consoles! 🤷
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The shape! The shape of the object defines it? What are you taking about?

Is this mini MSI Cubi actually a console because of it's shape?!

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IDKFA said:
The shape! The shape of the object defines it? What are you taking about?

Is this mini MSI Cubi actually a console because of it's shape?!

10260989
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A shape includes all of a thing's physical attributes. The Steam console and a cardboard box don't have the same shape even though both are rectangular.
 
pudel said:
Thats not Valves problem. If devs actively doesnt want to support linux...and rather prefer to force everyone on windows...than thats there own (questionable) decision.
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It absolutely is Valve's problem. It's not a developer's job to make sure their game runs through an emulator or support a platform(linux) that so few people use. And you're crazy if you think not choosing to support Linux is a questionable decision.
 
Sinfulgore said:
It absolutely is Valve's problem. It's not a developer's job to make sure their game runs through an emulator or support a platform(linux) that so few people use. And you're crazy if you think not choosing to support Linux is a questionable decision.
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No, its not Valves problem. They cannot and dont want to force any developer to do something what they dont want. In most cases its just really one switch to activate their anticheat for linux. And there are tons of multiplayer games (with anticheat) which are just working fine on linux.
 
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Well, they say it's a PC because it offers all the flexibility of one, but everyone knows the entire point of PC's are the ability to lord over console players about how much more powerful your system is, so by that metric it could never truly be a PC
 
pudel said:
No, its not Valves problem. They cannot and dont want to force any developer to do something what they dont want. In most cases its just really one switch to activate their anticheat for linux. And there are tons of multiplayer games (with anticheat) which are just working fine on linux.
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It is Valve's problem because they decided to build SteamOS on an operating system most PC games aren't made for. Valve doesn't need to force developers to do anything; if their devices ran Windows, there wouldn't be any problems with compatibility. This is something all the other PC manufacturers have done, but Valve chose not to do this, which is fine. It's their device, so they can do whatever they want with it, but when there are problems, they are the ones responsible. Battlefield 6 on PC was made for Windows only, not Linux, not SteamOS, not Mac, not Android, and it's not EA's problem if someone can't run their game on unsupported hardware.
 
rodrigolfp said:
Any seller of pre Build PCs can sell a mini desktop or laptop just as plug and play with zero config the same way.
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I'm talking about the steps necessary to play a Steam game. With this, it's similar to playing an Xbox game on an Xbox. Press power, choose game, play.

They will be able to do the same when SteamOS is fully in the wild.
 
Sinfulgore said:
Battlefield 6 on PC was made for Windows only, not Linux, not SteamOS, not Mac, not Android, and it's not EA's problem if someone can't run their game on unsupported hardware.
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The hardware is supported. The problem is only their shitty anticheat.
 
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