What do they think is at the end of the universe?

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Dice

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I haven't really studied the cosmic things too much. Do they think that you can just pass into an endless void, or do you hit some sort of time-space bubble wall and all the typical rules go funky?

Please no religious debate, don't even troll it because that somehow starts it for real.
 
More universe. The concept of beginning and end may not be completely realized. Our minds must encapsulate totality and compartmentalize everything. I'd venture to say that this is something we haven't been able to wrap our human brains around... that it doesn't have a beginning or an end.
 
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There is no 'edge of the universe'.
 
What is at the end of the Earth? Do you think there's this giant waterfall that's just falling into nothingness? I think it's somewhere near Antarctica.
 
Davedough said:
More universe. The concept of beginning and end may not be completely realized. Our minds must encapsulate totality and compartmentalize everything. I'd venture to say that this is something we haven't been able to wrap our human brains around... that it doesn't have a beginning or an end.

EatChildren said:
There is no 'edge of the universe'.
So, as I asked, do they think you at some point enter an endless void?

If there was a big bang, that means all the energies and stars and shit were together at one point. If they are expanding outward from that original point, then there must be a point they have not expanded out to yet. This is what I mean by "end" of the universe, where all the energy and mass of the universe has not yet expanded. Is it a void out there?
 
Outside of the Universe is nothing. However the rate at which it is expanding into that nothing means that you'd never be able to reach the nothing. When the Universe does stop expanding, it'll collapse in on itself so fast you won't even have time to do anything anyway.
 
Galvanise_ said:
Outside of the Universe is nothing. However the rate at which it is expanding into that nothing means that you'd never be able to reach the nothing. When the Universe does stop expanding, it'll collapse in on itself so fast you won't even have time to do anything anyway.

I thought the general consensus was that it wouldn't collapse, but just keep going until there's nothing?
 
Dice said:
So, as I asked, do they think you at some point enter an endless void?

If there was a big bang, that means all the energies and stars and shit were together at one point. If they are expanding outward from that original point, then there must be a point they have not expanded out to yet. This is what I mean by "end" of the universe, where all the energy and mass of the universe has not yet expanded. Is it a void out there?

So, really you want to know what is outside of our Universe?
 
britt0n said:
Neil Degrasse Tyson told me on NOVA that there is no end. HOWEVER that traitor told me pluto was not a planet.

He also spends time going on Coast to Coast AM. Credibility shot.
 
Dice said:
So, as I asked, do they think you at some point enter an endless void?

If there was a big bang, that means all the energies and stars and shit were together at one point. If they are expanding outward from that original point, then there must be a point they have not expanded out to yet. This is what I mean by "end" of the universe, where all the energy and mass of the universe has not yet expanded. Is it a void out there?

The expanding universe isn't filling a void. Its not expanding 'into' anyting. Beyond the universe there's nothing. Not nothing as in 'emptiness', but nothing as in literally nothing. No space or time. It doesn't exist, so you couldn't see or experience anything at the 'edge' of the universe as it doesn't exist. From our perspective the universe is infinite.
 
EatChildren said:
The expanding universe isn't filling a void. Its not expanding 'into' anyting. Beyond the universe there's nothing. Not nothing as in 'emptiness', but nothing as in literally nothing. No space or time. It doesn't exist, so you couldn't see or experience anything at the 'edge' of the universe as it doesn't exist. From our perspective the universe is infinite.

interesting.. also blows my mind.
 
Galvanise_ said:
Outside of the Universe is nothing. However the rate at which it is expanding into that nothing means that you'd never be able to reach the nothing. When the Universe does stop expanding, it'll collapse in on itself so fast you won't even have time to do anything anyway.

There is no "outside". And if the Universe were exapnding into an "outside", the outside wouldn't be "nothing", it would be "something".

The Universe is expanding within itself and there is no edge. Consequently, there is also no centre of the Universe.

The expansion of the Universe is also accelerating, so it will never collapse in on itself. Even if the expansion wasn't accelerating and it stopped and started collapsing, it would still take billions of years to collapse on itself.
 
Dice said:
So, as I asked, do they think you at some point enter an endless void?

If there was a big bang, that means all the energies and stars and shit were together at one point. If they are expanding outward from that original point, then there must be a point they have not expanded out to yet. This is what I mean by "end" of the universe, where all the energy and mass of the universe has not yet expanded. Is it a void out there?
To simplify it a bit:

The universe has no end just as the surface of a sphere has no "end".
While the universe have a couple of more dimensions but the principle is the same (though this is just one interpretation of the shape of the universe).

Put your finger down on anywhere on the surface of a globe and trace it in whatever direction you want - you'll never reach an end or enter an endless void!
 
The end of the partition. On the other partitions are more file systems, probably each with their own operating systems.
 
Mario said:
There is no "outside". And if the Universe were exapnding into an "outside", the outside wouldn't be "nothing", it would be "something".

The Universe is expanding within itself and there is no edge. Consequently, there is also no centre of the Universe.

The expansion of the Universe is also accelerating, so it will never collapse in on itself. Even if the expansion wasn't accelerating and it stopped and started collapsing, it would still take billions of years to collapse on itself.

Well, there are of course multiple theories concerning the end of the Universe. Big Crunch, Big Freeze etc.

Outside of the Universe there wouldn't be any dimensions, so technically it is nothing. It is accelerating, but I think the Big Crunch model is based on it being like an elastic band. Eventually the amount of energy and gravitational pull everything will have on everything else will be pushed to the max and it would snap backwards into quark soup/whatever was at the beginning of the universe.

Thats what I understand of it anyway.

We need to understand a lot more about dark energy before we can definitely say it will always go on accelerating in growth.

I could be wrong etc. I'm no physicist.
 
Somewhere there's an alien browsing GAF and he's laughing his ass off at the primitive humans trying to explain the universe to each other.
 
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/03/12/spooky-dark-flow-tracked-deeper-into-the-cosmos-no-word-on-whats-tugging-at-galaxies/

I thought this was interesting when I read it.

While the universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding in all of the directions it can whiz, no one direction should be preferred, which is why the dark flow is so damned interesting. According to our best understanding of how the matter in the Universe was distributed, there’s no way of accounting for this flow. The obvious alternate explanation is a little unnerving: something outside of our visible universe is pulling on the matter that we can see
 
Shanadeus said:
To simplify it a bit:

The universe has no end just as the surface of a sphere has no "end".
While the universe have a couple of more dimensions but the principle is the same (though this is just one interpretation of the shape of the universe).

Put your finger down on anywhere on the surface of a globe and trace it in whatever direction you want - you'll never reach an end or enter an endless void!
I've read about wormholes and they try to explain it as a tube through a folded over piece of paper. I know that is not literal but rather an example to try and understand what is going on. I've also heard some say the universe is like the surface of a doughnut.

So you're saying it is just in the nature of the universe, that it has an extra form that is difficult for us to understand? Where earth might seem flat to someone walking along, it is actually a sphere, and likewise the universe may seem like an expanding sphere you travel around within, but the rules actually function differently from something that simple?

If that is the case, all this distance between us and other things is mostly just perspective, and there may be a way to shortcut through the "distance" we perceive?
 
i think you come out on the other side.


A--------earth---------B


if you leave earth heading for one side of the universe, as soon as you hit the edge (B) you end up at the opposite edge (A) its like a big circle.
 
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