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[Wendo]

I e-mailed the head of my department about getting an override code in part four of the "statistics saga", and this was his reply:

It is not within my authority to override the decision of the instructor
> of a class with respect to course override issues. In fact, my policy
> is always to defer to the decision of the professor unless there is an
> egregious violation of university or departmental policy. In fact, Dr.
> S's decision is consistent with the department's policy of not
> allowing students to register for a course in consecutive quarters
> unless there is a space available. Given this policy, you should not be
> currently enrolled in Dr. C's class. Furthermore, given
> everything that you have said about your prior experience with this
> instructor, I would advise against remaining in the class. It is
> unfortunate that your learning style and Dr. C's teaching
> style did not mesh. Many students have found Dr. C's
> teaching approach to be extremely beneficial. This is not to imply that
> you are at fault since you have also been successful under other
> teaching styles. This is not an unusual situation.
>
> While you indicate that over-enrolling in Dr. S' class by one
> student should not be problematic, I must inform you that you are not
> the only student who would like to enroll in his class. I have at least
> 8 other students who would also like to enroll in the class. This would
> be problematic since I cannot give a space to all of those students.

So now the question is, is he telling me that I NEED to drop out of the course? If I just hang around and keep a low profile in this class, do you think it'll come back and bite me in the butt? I'm afraid to e-mail him back asking for clarification for fear that he'll somehow drop me himself.

Thoughts?

 

[Wendo]

Anything would be helpful, I just need to get some different opinions from my own.

 

[Doth Togo]

Go to the Dean's office with a copy of all of the correspondence and tell them that this person's being an egotistical shit for brains. See if they can help you.

Realize that the undergraduate university system in America is nothing more than four years of a money making system on their part while acting as babysitters.

 

[Ill Saint]

Sounds to me like he is rather diplomatically saying you should drop the course.

 

[Wendo]

Sounds to me like he is rather diplomatically saying you should drop the course.

Do you think that this means that if I don't, he'll screw something up? Or I'll be all set to graduate, and they'll be like, "Whoah. It looks like you shouldn't actually be able to graduate!"

 

[Ill Saint]

Well, there's always the risk, but you may be able to keep going if keep low... Personally, I'd talk further with Dept. Head and make your case. If that gets you nowhere, see the Dean.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

Is this a gateway course? When I say that I mean do you HAVE to take this course from this instructor to move on to your other courses? If so I say fight it fuck them it's not their money. Now then if you can get the credits without fucking with that professor then that's what I'd suggest. Not worth the hassle of going to class for a teacher that has a hard on for your acdemic obliteration.

 

[Wendo]

Is this a gateway course? When I say that I mean do you HAVE to take this course from this instructor to move on to your other courses? If so I say fight it fuck them it's not their money. Now then if you can get the credits without fucking with that professor then that's what I'd suggest. Not worth the hassle of going to class for a teacher that has a hard on for your acdemic obliteration.

It's a gateway course. If I don't take this one now, I won't be able to graduate in the summer. That wouldn't be a big deal, except for the fact that I'm directing a feature film next fall.

I can't imagine that they keep a record of "how full a class was" that they'd check before handing me my degree. If they don't drop me, I would imagine I'd be in the clear.

Is that kind of the feeling that you guys got?

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

It's a gateway course.

Uh-Oh, well then I say fight it all the way to the top it's your money. Just be prepared to do three times as much work to get half the credit if this teacher has it out for you. Get in the class do a good job and stay under the radar.

 

[fart]

he's saying as politely as he can that it's in your, his and this professor's best interest for you to drop the course.

however, if you have to graduate, you have to graduate. you might want to make an appointment to talk to him in person.

 

[Wendo]

I'm just going to try and lay low until Monday, when you can't register for classes anymore. If they don't somehow kick me out by then, I think I'll be in the clear. I'm just worried that they'll somehow invalidate my credit in the course later on down the line.

 

[Dilbert]

I'm just going to try and lay low until Monday, when you can't register for classes anymore. If they don't somehow kick me out by then, I think I'll be in the clear. I'm just worried that they'll somehow invalidate my credit in the course later on down the line.

With all due respect, that's just stupid. Rather than engaging the issue and trying to prevent any possible problem so that you assure yourself of graduating this summer...you're going to hope the system overlooks you just so you can avoid having to do any work?

The email is clear as day -- the administration and all other parties think you shouldn't be in the class. If you need to convince them otherwise, get to work NOW. If graduating this summer is really so important to you, then you need to be willing to put in some effort to make sure it happens.

 

[Tarazet]

It's a gateway course. If I don't take this one now, I won't be able to graduate in the summer. That wouldn't be a big deal, except for the fact that I'm directing a feature film next fall.

I can't imagine that they keep a record of "how full a class was" that they'd check before handing me my degree. If they don't drop me, I would imagine I'd be in the clear.

Is that kind of the feeling that you guys got?

If you aren't dropped in the first week or so, you're probably in the clear as the others will find substitutes. But if you never officially get added to the class, then the next thing you should do is bargain with whoever is responsible for evaluating your graduation prerequisites.

 

[TheOMan]

With all due respect, that's just stupid. Rather than engaging the issue and trying to prevent any possible problem so that you assure yourself of graduating this summer...you're going to hope the system overlooks you just so you can avoid having to do any work?

The email is clear as day -- the administration and all other parties think you shouldn't be in the class. If you need to convince them otherwise, get to work NOW. If graduating this summer is really so important to you, then you need to be willing to put in some effort to make sure it happens.

Listen this man, he spelled it out crystal clear. Do not "hope" that the system overlooks you. Most of the time, you have to make good things happen and I assume graduating this summer is a good thing. Hopefully, everybody sees reason and you can finish up school this summer.

 

[Wendo]

With all due respect, that's just stupid. Rather than engaging the issue and trying to prevent any possible problem so that you assure yourself of graduating this summer...you're going to hope the system overlooks you just so you can avoid having to do any work?

The email is clear as day -- the administration and all other parties think you shouldn't be in the class. If you need to convince them otherwise, get to work NOW. If graduating this summer is really so important to you, then you need to be willing to put in some effort to make sure it happens.

I'm not afraid of doing work, I'm simply trying as hard as possible to find the best solution. I am already enrolled in this class, meaning that I am in the status quo. By further pushing this situation, I'm edging myself further and further away from that. At this point I have done absolutely nothing wrong, registered legitimately, and have not been notified that I need to drop the class. If I had not emailed the department head, I never would have heard of this "policy", because it is no where on the school's website or any of the provided material.

He made it sound like I had a choice to drop or to not drop the class. I'm concerned that if I ask him to clarify, he'll decided that I have to drop the class. As of now, I am still enrolled, and have not been officially asked to drop the class.

Does that make sense? Or am I still doing this wrong?

 

[Ill Saint]

Well, you have now been made aware of the situation. That you had never heard or read about this policy (as you state it is nowhere on the Schools website or materials) gives you leverage.

This is clearly bothering you, it seems, so there is only one way to go about this.

 

[Teddman]

In fact, Dr.
> S's decision is consistent with the department's policy of not
> allowing students to register for a course in consecutive quarters
> unless there is a space available. Given this policy, you should not be
> currently enrolled in Dr. C's class.

Can you give us some more details on what he means by that? Have you taken this class before... What is meant by that "consecutive quarters unless there is space available" line?

 

[Wendo]

Can you give us some more details on what he means by that? Have you taken this class before... What is meant by that "consecutive quarters unless there is space available" line?

This stats class if taught by two profs, and both classes are overbooked by 1. I'm registered in one, and wanted to get into the other one. I'm guessing that he means that I should give up my spot for someone else who forgot to register, yet has not tried to take the class yet. I have taken the class from the same prof I'm taking the class from now. My main concern is that they'll drop me out of this class since I'm "not supposed to be there".

Trust me, I am all about doing the right thing and being responsible. But in a case like this, I wouldn't gain anything by pushing them for clarification, but would rather be taking a risk. If they're going to drop me now, then I'll find out. I'll argue like hell if it gets to that point, but I don't want to do it now for fear of them deciding to drop me from the current class. Does that make sense?

Thanks for all of your help guys, it really means a lot and is quite helpful to get different opinions from educated folk.

 

[BugCatcher]

Trust me, I am all about doing the right thing and being responsible.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[MrPing1000]

Do the opposite of what olimario did, whatever the hell that was