What Happened To Nas after Illmatic?

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I've always wondered this too. Why did they have him rewrite "Hip Hop is Dead"? I can't find a Explicit version at all, unless I buy the CD.
 
It's literally the best hip-hop album ever. It's also his first album. So why is it that everything else was so meh?

What happened? He made It Was Written, which was fucking amazing top to bottom and went on to have a wonderful career with many highlights including one of my all-time favorite Hip-Hop songs of all time, One Mic.
 
"Made You Look" is--while having a completely different vibe obviously--as good as anything on Illmatic. Too bad the rest of God's Son is straight up garbage.

Anyways, what happened to Nas is that he can't pick a beat for his life.

Ultra shit beat.
 
His beat selection isn't the greatest. Lupe suffers from the same thing: great rappers whose have a bad ear for beats so their music suffers for it.
 
His beat selection isn't the greatest. Lupe suffers from the same thing: great rappers whose have a bad ear for beats so their music suffers for it.
That's why Ghostface needs to start a company where he picks beats for rappers. He's one of the few people who consistently has great production on every album.
 
LJ11 said:
That Nas became too White after Illmatic.

That's ridiculous. He did The firm collab and everyone lost their mind like he fell off(he didn't). People lost their mind when Jay did a bar about Nas having 1 hot album in a 10 year average.

Lame.
 
I know music tastes are subjective and blah blah blah there are no "wrong" opinions.

Bullshit. OP you're flat out wrong and ignorant and need to listen to It Was Written 100x in penance.

Nas is the GOAT.

Edit: You don't even know about The Lost Tapes? FOH with that.

+2billion
 
Do I dare to admit that despite loving hip-hop more than any other human creation I just... don't really like Nas.

I've tried, so many times. I'd never say he's bad, by any stretch. His lyrics are great, and I recognise his influence, but I think it's his delivery that stops me from being excited by him.

He raps at a very regular pace, you can scrub through a song and it's the same steady rhythm throughout. I'm fine listening to his tracks mixed in on a playlist, but I can never make it through listening to an entire album without feeling, honestly, bored.

I start listening like, "Hey, this is good, maybe I do like Nas!"

"Still good, hope he changes it up though."

"Huh, sounds a lot like the last track."

"...Yeah, I'm done."

Man, this must be when confessing to a priest feels like. Forgive me, Gaf.
 
Do I dare to admit that despite loving hip-hop more than any other human creation I just... don't really like Nas.

I've tried, so many times. I'd never say he's bad, by any stretch. His lyrics are great, and I recognise his influence, but I think it's his delivery that stops me from being excited by him.

He raps at a very regular pace, you can scrub through a song and it's the same steady rhythm throughout. I'm fine listening to his tracks mixed in on a playlist, but I can never make it through listening to an entire album without feeling, honestly, bored.

I start listening like, "Hey, this is good, maybe I do like Nas!"

"Still good, hope he changes it up though."

"Huh, sounds a lot like the last track."

"...Yeah, I'm done."

Man, this must be when confessing to a priest feels like. Forgive me, Gaf.
There's nothing wrong with not being a fan of someone.
 
After Illmatic, he got caught up in New York's Bad Boy extravagance when it came to making songs, and then he had some garbage ass beats. And then he came back with Stillmatic, but ultimately he got old.
 
There's nothing wrong with not being a fan of someone.
Yeah, I know, but when there's it's super influential artist I always have that irritating feeling that I'm just missing something. It's also not uncommon for me to revisit an artist I didn't like and end up loving them, so Nas has become someone I keep trying to come back to.
 
That's ridiculous. He did The firm collab and everyone lost their mind like he fell off(he didn't). People lost their mind when Jay did a bar about Nas having 1 hot album in a 10 year average.

Lame.

I was poking fun at a recent thread the OP made about Socialism being too White. Shit posting on my part, but I couldn't help it.

Nas has put out quality stuff, I'm with you.
 
Crazy to think Nas had DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Q-Tip and Large Pro all on his first album, how did he ever manage to secure these guys?
 
His biggest issue post Illmatic have always been his horrendous ear for beats. Sometimes he gets it right for the majority of the album (It Was Written, Lost Tapes, Distant Cousins) , most of the times he doesn't.
 
LJ11 said:
I was poking fun at a recent thread the OP made about Socialism being too White. Shit posting on my part, but I couldn't help it.

I know. :)

SoulClap said:
His biggest issue post Illmatic have always been his horrendous ear for beats. Sometimes he gets it right for the majority of the album (It Was Written, Lost Tapes, Distant Cousins) , most of the times he doesn't.

Agreed.. lyrically.. it's Nas but, his ear for a good beat that isn't the alchemist or primo have been pretty lousy. If OP said that, OP would have had a better argument if there was even one to begin with.
 
DJ Premier carried Nas and Guru, imo.

Though Gods Son is pretty good.

how did he "carry" when he's only done a handful of songs? granted, i think Nas is Like...is some of his dopest shit, but we never got that all preem/nas album we were teased a while back, tragically
and as a Guru fan, i dug Jazmatazz

We're just gonna act like Untitled doesn't exist, huh?

honestly, after Streets Disciple stuff kinda blurred for me - i know there were tracks on it, but more lows than highs i recall


literally no one thinks this
well, big ghostface swears takeover > ether but he's a diehard jigga stan

That's why Ghostface needs to start a company where he picks beats for rappers. He's one of the few people who consistently has great production on every album.

ehhh Ghost is top 5 dead or alive but i don't always think his beats are as on point as they could be, for the body of producers lining up to fuck with him...you're right that he's more consistent than nas' choices though.

That's ridiculous. He did The firm collab and everyone lost their mind like he fell off(he didn't). People lost their mind when Jay did a bar about Nas having 1 hot album in a 10 year average.

Lame.

true, and some of that was in full effect by nastradamus/owe me back etc, then the oochie wallie era which was decisively a low, i thought. stillmatic was his best shit in years, i'm still thankful jay took those shots & reignited dude
 
One that definitely comes to mind for me is Spec Ops: The Line. To me this game came out of nowhere and became one of my favorites last gen. I probably beat it in about two sittings and it was something I was constantly thinking about in between play sessions and when I finished. Watching the characters just deteriorate mentally was fascinating and I really enjoyed the game play as well, as I know a lot of people found that to be just average. It was one of my favorites last gen and is still a game I thoroughly recommend to people.
 
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As far as I am concerned, most 90s hip hop artists started off with a bang and then fell off mainly because they were so damn hungry for success and were coming out of ghettos or extreme poverty. For Wu Tang, Nas, Biggie, and to a certain extent Tupac and Dre, they were all products of their environment and as they accrued more success, they became distanced from it and lost the unrelenting drive that made them successful in the first place.
 
What happened? He made It Was Written, which was fucking amazing top to bottom and went on to have a wonderful career with many highlights including one of my all-time favorite Hip-Hop songs of all time, One Mic.

+1

It is Written is another album that can be argued for top 10 best Rap albums easily on top of several other great albums. Yes, he has had a few misses, but I can't think of a single rapper whose legitimately had a better career.
 
Kelis happened

mobb deep fans these days are the worst

As far as I am concerned, most 90s hip hop artists started off with a bang and then fell off mainly because they were so damn hungry for success and were coming out of ghettos or extreme poverty. For Wu Tang, Nas, Biggie, and to a certain extent Tupac and Dre, they were all products of their environment and as they accrued more success, they became distanced from it and lost the unrelenting drive that made them successful in the first place.

except nearly every artist you named made a fantastic (if not better, in some ways) album than their first, if you stuck with them
 
As far as I am concerned, most 90s hip hop artists started off with a bang and then fell off... and to a certain extent Tupac.

Tupac only got better and the drive stronger imo, kind of the opposite of the example you're giving here.
 
How do so many people not know about Lost Tapes? It's the best thing he has released since Illmatic.
 
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