What happened to single player fps and 3rd person shooter games? What happened to complete single player shooters?

Shadowstar39

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What happened to single player fps games?

The genre was born on the 386 pc and then came to console in ps1/n64 generation, improved in the xb/ps2 gen and had a golden age in the PS3/60 era, then it seems they faded from memory outside of a few series.

We basically have Doom and Far Cry left, which I doubt either will be around much longer with how low the sales were for the last two entries. Both series, imo lost their way.

I remember the start of it all with Wolf3d (which spawned from Catacomb3d). Played wolf3d on my humble 386sx a 16mhz 32bit machine I had to run with a border to get the full speed but it was something new.
This bought us to Duke Nukem, Blood, Rise of the Triad, etc.... Qausi-3d era.

Then we got Quake and the 2nd half of the 90s with the first true 3d fps and its progeny: Quake2, Unreal, Rune, Star Trek Elite Forces, Star Wars Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, Half-life, Golden Eye, Redneck Rampage, Heretic, Hexen, etc....
The whole decade brought on innovation after innovation. It spurred pc growth and mores law let it thrive. Coupled with the first gpus --3dfx voodoo , then later Nvidia and it's Geforce line (and the Radeon, matrox, powervr, etc...)

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Then we get to the 2000s. PC had hits like Half-life 1 & 2 ( Amazing immersive games that still hold up today). Undying, No One lives Forever, Soldier of Fortune, Serious Sam, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Painkiller
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Plus spin off games that used the fps engine but weren't shooters, and some rpgs, like Rune, Thief, Dues Ex, Vampire the masquerade Bloodlines.

No one can forget Halo. The console juggernaut. Back then we got some multiplayer only games like Quake 3 and Unreal tournament, but even those could be played single player with bots. Halo set the tone for many Console FPS games.
Many had a multiplayer component but none were really multiplayer only on console outside of MAG and Socom confrontation (that I recall from back then).

Halo Games, Resistance and Killzone, Socom, etc...
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Then we had Black, Bioshock, Farcry, Quake 4, Fear, Dark Messiah of M&M, Crysis, Borderlands, Time splitters, Brothers in Arms, Stalker Doom 3, Fear 2, Prey, Rage , Crysis 1-3, Bad company 1 and 2, etc...

The spawning of 3rd person shooters, Gears of War, Uncharted, Rainbow Six Vegas, etc...

It seems that after ps4 era hit these games were few and far between outside of Farcry5, deus ex mankind divided, game, halo, Metro, Doom2016, Far Cry 3-4 and 5, and Metro Exodus

Hell after 2020 we got what: Doom Eternal and Dark Ages, Cyberpunk 2077, and Atomic Heart and Robocop (the last three being the only original fps games of this generation, that i know of in the AAA/AA space. )

Robocop was a breath of fresh air and I have a feeling that is the future of the genre. Smaller scale AA budget games. And I am ok with that, make them 8-12 hours and make them on a lesser budget but with dedicate passionate smaller teams.
Charge $50-60 and watch people buy them.

What do you think changed? Was it Gaas? Multiplayer shooters were around before Gaas and single player fps thrived in that gen, so i doubt that's it. Or this a cyclical wave or will they dye out like Adventure games and RTS?


What are some of your favorite fps games and memories of single player classics?
 
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Developer demographics at big studios. If they even tried you'd end up with shit like the new Mafia trailer. Sawed off double barrel firing 3 times, or the blasphemous weapon design of Fallout 4, Starfield and Killing Floor 3.

Mod up Ghost Recon Wildlands and thank me later.
 
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SP First Person Shooter games got labeled "Boomer Shooters" and they don't sell well. See Doom The Dark Ages.

I recommend 2.

Warhammer 40k Boltgun
Dusk
 
Someone tell Nightdive Studios that the people want a remaster of Area 51 from the PS2.

SP First Person Shooter games got labeled "Boomer Shooters" and they don't sell well. See Doom The Dark Ages.

I recommend 2.

Warhammer 40k Boltgun
Dusk
This is true but didn't Doom Eternal sell very well?
 
SP First Person Shooter games got labeled "Boomer Shooters" and they don't sell well. See Doom The Dark Ages.

I recommend 2.

Warhammer 40k Boltgun
Dusk
Boomer shooters are great though.. 40k boltgun is awesome. so is Ion Fury, and a ton of others, but those are indies mostly. Dark Ages was marketed really bad and at a bad time. It also isn't classic doom. I have a feeling the doom fanbase fractured with Eternal. I hated eternal and didn't get dark ages as I assumed its more of the same. Puzzle ammo combat, no thanks.

I really would love more games like Half-life, Undying, Prey, Nolf, Fear, but that will never happen. We were lucky to get Stalker 2 (which I love) and AA games like robocop, which was a great game. I think the future is in $50 AA games and smaller teams. Expedition 33, and Robocop show it can be done.
 
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What happened to single player fps games?

The genre was born on the 386 pc and then came to console in ps1/n64 generation, improved in the xb/ps2 gen and had a golden age in the PS3/60 era, then it seems they faded from memory outside of a few series.

We basically have Doom and Far Cry left, which I doubt either will be around much longer with how low the sales were for the last two entries. Both series, imo lost their way.

I remember the start of it all with Wolf3d (which spawned from Catacomb3d). Played wolf3d on my humble 386sx a 16mhz 32bit machine I had to run with a border to get the full speed but it was something new.
This bought us to Duke Nukem, Blood, Rise of the Triad, etc.... Qausi-3d era.

Then we got Quake and the 2nd half of the 90s with the first true 3d fps and its progeny: Quake2, Unreal, Rune, Star Trek Elite Forces, Star Wars Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, Half-life, Golden Eye, Redneck Rampage, Heretic, Hexen, etc....
The whole decade brought on innovation after innovation. It spurred pc growth and mores law let it thrive. Coupled with the first gpus --3dfx voodoo , then later Nvidia and it's Geforce line (and the Radeon, matrox, powervr, etc...)

you-can-only-pick-one-game-from-each-row-90s-fps-edition-v0-qfrk0pv2d1e91.jpg



Then we get to the 2000s. PC had hits like Half-life 1 & 2 ( Amazing immersive games that still hold up today). Undying, No One lives Forever, Soldier of Fortune, Serious Sam, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Painkiller
halflife_2.jpg
4d481b3a7ad478e2fd333bb04a21b94c94bc171cf27ee92ed73398b7f897f8cd.jpg
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Plus spin off games that used the fps engine but weren't shooters, and some rpgs, like Rune, Thief, Dues Ex, Vampire the masquerade Bloodlines.

No one can forget Halo. The console juggernaut. Back then we got some multiplayer only games like Quake 3 and Unreal tournament, but even those could be played single player with bots. Halo set the tone for many Console FPS games.
Many had a multiplayer component but none were really multiplayer only on console outside of MAG and Socom confrontation (that I recall from back then).

Halo Games, Resistance and Killzone, Socom, etc...
killzone_vs_halo_by_jano233_d3etfye-375w-2x.jpg
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killzone2-1.jpg


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Then we had Black, Bioshock, Farcry, Quake 4, Fear, Dark Messiah of M&M, Crysis, Borderlands, Time splitters, Brothers in Arms, Stalker Doom 3, Fear 2, Prey, Rage , Crysis 1-3, Bad company 1 and 2, etc...

The spawning of 3rd person shooters, Gears of War, Uncharted, Rainbow Six Vegas, etc...

It seems that after ps4 era hit these games were few and far between outside of Farcry5, deus ex mankind divided, game, halo, Metro, Doom2016, Far Cry 3-4 and 5, and Metro Exodus

Hell after 2020 we got what: Doom Eternal and Dark Ages, Cyberpunk 2077, and Atomic Heart and Robocop (the last three being the only original fps games of this generation, that i know of in the AAA/AA space. )

Robocop was a breath of fresh air and I have a feeling that is the future of the genre. Smaller scale AA budget games. And I am ok with that, make them 8-12 hours and make them on a lesser budget but with dedicate passionate smaller teams.
Charge $50-60 and watch people buy them.

What do you think changed? Was it Gaas? Multiplayer shooters were around before Gaas and single player fps thrived in that gen, so i doubt that's it. Or this a cyclical wave or will they dye out like Adventure games and RTS?


What are some of your favorite fps games and memories of single player classics?
Aw man, this takes me back. A couple of years ago I made a similar thread talking and asking the same things but I don't remember a definite answer. It was mostly people who didn't understand what I meant exactly and telling me there's still these games, like CoD, Far Cry and a lot of indies… But they didn't get the main point.
 
Same as MOBAs killed RTS, mp shooters killed the single-player, linear maps + narrative shooters.

At least there's still indies, although I think most go for the DOOM formula rather than the Half-Life formula. We'll get there, probably.

Also, Shadowstar39 Shadowstar39 thanks for making a thread about videogames and not sales, nor politics nor consolewarring shit.
 
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Boomer shooters are great though.. 40k boltgun is awesome. so is Ion Fury, and a ton of others, but those are indies mostly. Dark Ages was marketed really bad and at a bad time. It also isn't classic doom. I have a feeling the doom fanbase fractured with Eternal. I hated eternal and didn't get dark ages as I assumed its more of the same. Puzzle ammo combat, no thanks.

I really would love more games like Half-life, Undying, Prey, Nolf, Fear, but that will never happen. We were lucky to get Stalker 2 (which I love) and AA games like robocop, which was a great game. I think the future is in $50 AA games and smaller teams. Expedition 33, and Robocop show it can be done.
And Area 51 on the PS2?
 
I really would love more games like Half-life, Undying, Prey, Nolf, Fear, but that will never happen. We were lucky to get Stalker 2 (which I love) and AA games like robocop, which was a great game. I think the future is in $50 AA games and smaller teams. Expedition 33, and Robocop show it can be done.
I recommend checking out ashes 2063. Completely free game following similar to metro and stalker games but more linear. Very well done
 
Easier, cheaper, and more profitable to create the frameworks of games and throw it into competitive multiplayer. I think we also forget the absolute deluge of FPS that flooded the market in the mid to late 2000s. Sometimes gamers need a break, but publishers are trend chasers and they completely abandon these projects until enough time has passed that the market finds them interesting again.
 
SP FPS market is very difficult right now. Still there are some coming in the future like Atomic Heart 2 or Metro 4, and we got S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 or DOOM TDA for example.
 
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The industry gravitated more towards open world and big bloated experiences that could offer more "value" (gameplay hours) for the money.
Most of these single player shooters are on the shorter side, and most publishers probably decided spending AAA money to make a 10 hours long $70 game is too risky.

Games like Halo and Gears could add value with their multiplayer modes but the market no longer cares about the old multiplayer model. People now loose interest if the game isn't constantly updated with new content and battle passes and events.
 
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SP First Person Shooter games got labeled "Boomer Shooters" and they don't sell well. See Doom The Dark Ages.

I recommend 2.

Warhammer 40k Boltgun
Dusk
Partially correct. Add not enough profit potential vs development cost. Opportunity cost for large publishers, weak consumer spending (doom da main concern is 80 usd vs steam's poor folk). There is a sweet spot for aa (see shadow warrior reboot which launched a trilogy aa to aaa).
 
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