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Team Andromeda
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Business
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Yeah I came to post Trico as well. With all its problems it still felt like something alive, more so than any other thing I have experienced.
DonJorginho
Banned
MGS V, FEAR and Alien Isolation
Southern Gentleman
Member
F.E.A.R. is the first that came to mind. And then Powerslide by Ratbag Games.
GymWolf
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Fear 1 was great
Tlou\unchy 4 during combat are good enough (at hardest difficulty)
Halo 1 to 3 on legendary are pretty good too.
Mgs5 during stealth (not so much during combat)
Killzone 2 was nice.
Some human enemies in apotheon (the ranged one)
Gta 5 and rdr2 npc have some nice scripts and reactions.
Human Hunters in bloodborne sometimes fights almost like real people.
Lately? Believe or not, division 2 (during combat)
Tlou\unchy 4 during combat are good enough (at hardest difficulty)
Halo 1 to 3 on legendary are pretty good too.
Mgs5 during stealth (not so much during combat)
Killzone 2 was nice.
Some human enemies in apotheon (the ranged one)
Gta 5 and rdr2 npc have some nice scripts and reactions.
Human Hunters in bloodborne sometimes fights almost like real people.
Lately? Believe or not, division 2 (during combat)
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GymWolf
Member
Yeah rain world has an incredible ecosystem.
Verdanth
Member
The Last Guardian?
Damn, Trico is cute and all, but between him and a door, I think the door has better AI.
MDSLKTR
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Hazardous Environment Combat Unit
So much for the government. Their idea of containment is to kill everyone associated with the project!Black Mesa Scientist The Hazardous Environment Combat Unit, abbreviated as HECU, is a United States Marine Corps Special Forces Unit that is featured prominently in Half-Life and its expansions...
half-life.fandom.com
These boys can still make you sweat.
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Chromata
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Skyrim.
Once when I was raiding a camp, two men sat next to a campfire. They didn't speak, just enjoyed each other's company.
I headshot one of them with my bow and they dropped dead in front of their friend. To my surprise, the friend didn't come running. He immediately understood his fate and the futility of struggling against it. He stared into the flames in silent meditation, coming to peace with the universe.
Then I went and stole the clothes he was wearing without him noticing and let the philosopher live.
Ground breaking stuff. Thanks Todd
Once when I was raiding a camp, two men sat next to a campfire. They didn't speak, just enjoyed each other's company.
I headshot one of them with my bow and they dropped dead in front of their friend. To my surprise, the friend didn't come running. He immediately understood his fate and the futility of struggling against it. He stared into the flames in silent meditation, coming to peace with the universe.
Then I went and stole the clothes he was wearing without him noticing and let the philosopher live.
Ground breaking stuff. Thanks Todd
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JareBear: Remastered
Banned
For those saying TLOU are you referring to the companion AI? If so I can see why, but wasn't enemy AI nothing special ?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I read somewhere it's all faked and they've basically coded it so if there are more than 2 enemies around, only 2 at a time will attack and the rest will go off to do random shit and shout lies like "flanking!" and stuff. Can't confirm.Hazardous Environment Combat Unit
So much for the government. Their idea of containment is to kill everyone associated with the project!Black Mesa Scientist The Hazardous Environment Combat Unit, abbreviated as HECU, is a United States Marine Corps Special Forces Unit that is featured prominently in Half-Life and its expansions...
These boys can still make you sweat.
Goes to show fun to fight AI is a completely different deal to AI that is practically effective against the player (headshot aimbot enemies are never fun in arena FPS deathmatch for example, they need to program human-like deficiencies deliberately).
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GymWolf
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For a moment i was "is this mofo for real", then i read the rest of the postSkyrim.
Once when I was raiding a camp, two men sat next to a campfire. They didn't speak, just enjoyed each other's company.
I headshot one of them with my bow and they dropped dead in front of their friend. To my surprise, the friend didn't come running. He immediately understood his fate and the futility of struggling against it. He stared into the flames in silent meditation, coming to peace with the universe.
Then I went and stole the clothes he was wearing without him noticing and let the philosopher live.
Ground breaking stuff. Thanks Todd
GymWolf
Member
The human enemy ia during gunfight was actually pretty good, they surround you if you stay still they often tries pincer strategies and they are pretty aggressive, i only played at the hardest difficulty so i don't know if normal mode is the same, probably not.
Ai during stealth against humans was shit and broken if i remember well.
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xrnzaaas
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Personally I wouldn't put The Last Guardian on the list. I can't remember how many times I got frustrated because Trico wasn't responding to my commands or actions. And it wasn't something I'd call a feature (like having an untrained pet), but a broken mechanic (not fully thankfully).
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
MGS2
- Guards radio in status reports periodically
- If a status report is late, HQ will send an investigation squad
- If you hold up a guard and lower your weapon too long, he will kick you and try to escape
- Guards can heal themselves if they are wounded
- If a guard's radio is broken, they will try to escape the area which triggers an alert if they are successful
- Guards can peak around corners rather than exposing themselves totally
- Guards in Evasion mode will strafe around corners with their weapons at the ready
- Guards check lockers, bathroom stalls, air vents, and under tables
- Despite no splinter cell lighting system, there are areas where your shadow is cast around a corner and guards can see it
- Despite no dedicated sound bar like splinter cell, there are areas where you can shoot unsilenced weapons and guards will not hear it due to the ambient noise
On higher difficulties they remain the toughest enemies in the entire series by far.
- Guards radio in status reports periodically
- If a status report is late, HQ will send an investigation squad
- If you hold up a guard and lower your weapon too long, he will kick you and try to escape
- Guards can heal themselves if they are wounded
- If a guard's radio is broken, they will try to escape the area which triggers an alert if they are successful
- Guards can peak around corners rather than exposing themselves totally
- Guards in Evasion mode will strafe around corners with their weapons at the ready
- Guards check lockers, bathroom stalls, air vents, and under tables
- Despite no splinter cell lighting system, there are areas where your shadow is cast around a corner and guards can see it
- Despite no dedicated sound bar like splinter cell, there are areas where you can shoot unsilenced weapons and guards will not hear it due to the ambient noise
On higher difficulties they remain the toughest enemies in the entire series by far.
vpance
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Definitely broken. Sometimes you could sneak up right beside them and they would do nothing.
GymWolf
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Not only that, but you can make a pile of cadavers and most enemies are gonna forget after 30 seconds, you find hilarious video on youtube about tlou stealth.
The sequel from previews looks far better in the stealth departement but i don't really trust shills journalist so i'm gonna see bu myself at launch.
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Legendary runs in co op with a buddy is peak Halo. Still trying to find a time to do that again, 10+ years on...
Halo is Back
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I’m also going to throw in Rise of the Tomb Raider. I was very surprised how ruthless the enemies can be. Just about every gunfight I got in I was constantly being flanked and flushed out by grenades if I got too comfortable in cover
vpance
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I got higher hopes for the sequel.
As bad as the stealth AI in TLoU was, I'd say it was fairly convincing at being smart in a first playthrough, where you're just trying to survive. It's the replays where you know what you're doing you can break it easily.
GymWolf
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I exploited some ia bugs in my first run tbh
SpartanN92
Banned
Pick a Halo game (Halo 1-Reach) all of them are difficult and even brutal on Legendary.
Elizabeth in Bioshock Infinite was great too!
Elizabeth in Bioshock Infinite was great too!
vpance
Member
I exploited some ia bugs in my first run tbh
What mode were you playing? I did hard with no detective on the first run.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
He'll be back! Can't wait to see him acting an absolute fool again.
Lone Wolf
Member
Playing Reach again on The MC collection made me realize how smart the AI used to be in Halo because Halo 5s AI is borderline retarded.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Hitman was pretty good now that I think about it. I don't know how many times I tried something just to see if they would act like you would expect them too. they did not disappoint.
GymWolf
Member
Hard for first run, the hardest mode for the second one.
These type of games really shine at high difficulty, they really become survival game.
Ballthyrm
Member
Stockfish Chess Engine.
100% got destroyed.
As with everyone else, i think the top pick has to go to AlphaStar.
Damn were these matches fascinating.
It would be great if DeepMind or OpenAI collaborated with other video games devs to make great Video games AI's.
I mean this video is just amazing
100% got destroyed.
As with everyone else, i think the top pick has to go to AlphaStar.
Damn were these matches fascinating.
It would be great if DeepMind or OpenAI collaborated with other video games devs to make great Video games AI's.
I mean this video is just amazing
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Slings and Arrows
Banned
Unreal for the Dreamcast
Halo for the OG Xbox
Condemned for the 360
Half-life 1 and 2.
Halo for the OG Xbox
Condemned for the 360
Half-life 1 and 2.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
The AI is the backbone of F.E.A.R.
Väinömäinen
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Mario Kart!
Just kidding!
Fear
Just kidding!
Fear
Bolivar687
Banned
I came in this thread to say I beat FEAR and never really noticed what was supposed to be so great about the game or its AI. I was bored a good amount of the time because the environments were so repetitive, you were basically running through the exact same room as the one you just left for 5 hours straight before moving to a new location. I liked FEAR 2, though.
I might try it again because I may have been playing at a weird resolution something.
I might try it again because I may have been playing at a weird resolution something.
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Southern Gentleman
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Don't even bother with 2 or 3, they're nothing compared to the first game.
Yup. I couldn't agree more.
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vpance
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Didn't watch, but yeah it's pretty much down to good scripting and level design. Devs who put a little more effort into it back then saw great results because the levels were still small and predictable.
Nowadays it's much harder to do that with the vast increase in map size and number of AIs. Plus there doesn't seem to be much incentive to put the work in there especially if MP is the main draw.
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cireza
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I really like Dead or Alive series AI. It is a great AI for single player sessions, never feels like it is cheating. KOF99/2K are also fantastic for single player.
Virtua Fighter 5 also had a fantastic AI, especially the fact that the same fighter could have different kinds of AI mimicking real players in the Quest Mode.
Fighting games are interesting overall because it is a genre where you easily go from a great AI to worst AI ever. So many games that have shit AI, it is almost insulting.
Quake 3 was good as well. Very challenging, but manageable. I completed Nightmare mode on Dreamcast.
I remember a Prince of Tennis game on PS2 that had a great, challenging AI as well.
Otherwise I realize that not many games I play have AI, it is often patterns and scripts, or a bit random (RPGs).
Virtua Fighter 5 also had a fantastic AI, especially the fact that the same fighter could have different kinds of AI mimicking real players in the Quest Mode.
Fighting games are interesting overall because it is a genre where you easily go from a great AI to worst AI ever. So many games that have shit AI, it is almost insulting.
Quake 3 was good as well. Very challenging, but manageable. I completed Nightmare mode on Dreamcast.
I remember a Prince of Tennis game on PS2 that had a great, challenging AI as well.
Otherwise I realize that not many games I play have AI, it is often patterns and scripts, or a bit random (RPGs).
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