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What is wrong with Ann Coulter? (also, Al Franken rocks)

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Diablos

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I've been reading about her in Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them. This woman is so full of it, and not to mention takes things way out of context to the point where you wonder if she has some serious issues. I think she does.

Example - This was taken from a New York Times article...

Think about it. If everyone flew naked, not only would you never have to worry about the passenger next to you carring box cutters or exploding shoes, but no religious fundamentalists of any stripe would ever be caught dead flying nude...

...and she somehow came up with this:

New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman sniffed that racial profiling was not "civilized." He blamed twenty years of relentless attacks by Muslim extremists on -- I quote -- "religious fundamentalists of any stripe."

She put that in her book, Slander. o_O

This woman should not be allowed to publish anything. I'm sorry. Hell, she shouldn't be allowed to write after I saw something she so proudly claims in her new book:

Her 9/11 comments: "I am often asked if I still think we should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity. The answer is: Now more than ever!"

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...might as well consider her a Neo-Fascist.

You want to talk about a threat to our national security? How do you think a member of Al Queda would feel after reading that? You know, if she made a valid point I would defend her even if it did make us look bad. But it's not a valid point. It's bitter, vile, disgusting hatred coming from the mind of a brainwashed fundamentalist.

"How to talk to a liberal (if you must)." Give me a break. For one, Ann, you need to have your facts straight if you want to talk to a liberal (what about moderates? Oh I'm sorry, all moderates must be liberals today). That MIGHT be boring to you, but that's the way the world works (unless you're Ann Coulter, then you can make stuff up and/or seriously modify existing information for a better read, even if that makes it 100% inaccurate!)

Her books are bestsellers. I can't fathom why people would even want to believe half the things she is talking about. People like Al Franken are considered liars, yet Ann Coulter is "fair and balanced." That's messed up. You know, most of the reason why fundamentalist loons don't listen to liberals and believe conservatives is probably because conservative pay more attention to issues like religion in school, censorship, banning abortion etc. -- all the things that are important to parents. That's fine. But it's sad that just because liberals AREN'T as supportive of these things, that instantly makes them immoral in everything they do and thus they have no credibility for anything they say.

Also, Al Franken's book, "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" is a great read, pick it up if you haven't already...
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
I'm still convinced that she's built satire into an art form, but does it in such a way that right-wingers don't realize it. She jerks them off, they give her money, and she laughs all the way to the bank. Everyone wins.

(And to be fair, imagining a plane filled with naked people is pretty funny.)
 

Diablos

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shuri: She's all yours buddy. U-G-L-Y

HalfPastNoon said:
my parents and brother read her books, yet chide michael moore whenever they get the chance.

odd.
Moore doesn't have everything right, either. But the people he interviews in F. 9/11 aren't taking Moore's side, they are simply telling the truth.

Ann Coulter goes at it alone and lies the whole way through. That's the difference between Michael Moore and Ann Coulter.
 

way more

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I used to think she was the only conservative with a sense of humor but after she said McCarthy was an American hero I think she is crazy as a shit-house rat.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Diablos said:
Moore doesn't have everything right, either. But the people he interviews in F. 9/11 aren't taking Moore's side, they are simply telling the truth.
Maybe, but at the end of the day, I think both are just interested in starting controversy and making a shitload of money. Both know exactly what they're doing and exactly how to attract big audiences. It goes both ways. There are manipulative loons on both sides of the political spectrum. Seems to me that a lot of people fall into their traps and come out thinking that one side is holier than thou and the other is disgusting scum, thus perpetuating the sales of these books, and completely disregarding the fact that both sides are equally screwed.
 
Franken's commentary on Coulter's wingnuttery is pretty good, and like the rest of the book, very, very funny.

I think an ever better look at her (and many, many others, especially the "other" shebeast of the right Laura Ingraham) are in David Brock's Blinded by the Right, which I read on the flights to and from my vacation spot this year.

Speaking of Brock, Media Matters has more hits for Coulter than Google does for "bananaphone". Linkage . Well, not really, but it's always fun to say the word bananaphone, or something.

People like Coulter are mostly the same. They grew up hating and fighthing communism with a passion and admired McCarthyism. When the Cold War ended they had to find something else to fuel their all-encompassing hate, and they all latched on to the hatemonger himself Newt Gingrich and his hate of the Democratic party.

Edit: Oh, one more thing. All conservative authors know that the money is in digging up as much red meat as possible (regardless of factual basis), using Regenery or some other right-wing goofball publisher to publish their books and get it on the book club lists, then use the bestseller result to fuel more book sales. The only people that scam the GOP noise machine better are the think tank institute fellows and magazine authors, who chow down millions upon millions of dollars of billionare money to get their patron's positions out into the media.
 

Celicar

Banned
Her 9/11 comments: "I am often asked if I still think we should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity. The answer is: Now more than ever!"


That's wrong, but it's pretty damn funny.
 

White Man

Member
I'm beginning to believe the 'brilliant satirist' stuff. She's definitely a real conservative, but there's no way she could actually believe the over-the-top sentiments she tosses onto the table. And if she is actaully a satirist. . .she's one of today's best. If she's now. . . <gulp>.

Either that or, as has been mentioned before, she's a fame hungry lecher with her crosshair pointed directly at the lowest common denominator demographic of conservatives.

Whatever it is, she succeeds in getting people to venomously talk to her. How many GA threads have we had concerning her that have ended up with locks and bans?
 

Cool

Member
belgurdo said:
Give her a face lift, remove the monkey ears, and give her breasts, and I'd hit the conservative out of her

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Yeah, the cover (of the book) itself annoys me too much.
 

Hournda

Member
Ann Coulter is a bitch because she (like virtually every other right wing columnist/talk show host/whatever) is so blindly devoted to her cause that at this point she's nothing but a sheep for the right wing cause. These people do not have any critical or independant thinking skills, the only things that can come out of their mouth are "Liberals are evil. George Bush is good. blah blah blah." Ugh. The people who like to listen to them are usually just fellow sheep who love having their own point of view spit back to them in chunks that sound good but are critically flawed in terms of their rhetorical value.
 

Cool

Member
Hournda said:
Ann Coulter is a bitch because she (like virtually every other right wing columnist/talk show host/whatever) is so blindly devoted to her cause that at this point she's nothing but a sheep for the right wing cause. These people do not have any critical or independant thinking skills, the only things that can come out of their mouth are "Liberals are evil. George Bush is good. blah blah blah." Ugh. The people who like to listen to them are usually just fellow sheep who love having their own point of view spit back to them in chunks that sound good but are critically flawed in terms of their rhetorical value.

-Applause- It couldn't be said any better.
 

White Man

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If all conservatives wore leather tops, all the time, I'd be voting republican for life. It'd be taking one large step towards fulfilling my post-apocalyptic Mad Max fantasies. Coulter could run Thunderdome.
 

Diablos

Member
Indeed Michael Moore can be pretty biased too. But he is nowhere near as nutty as Ann Coulter...

Since we're talking about this book and crazy right-wing people, I just finished reading about Bill O'Reilly and cannot believe how evil this man is. He accuses Jeremy Glick (whose FATHER died in the World Trade Center) of saying the Bushes were basically responsible for 9/11. During his interview with Glick, he cuts him off and says "get off my show before I tear you to fucking pieces!" Jeremy Glick never said such a thing, only that he is unsupportive of the war in Iraq. The transcript is all over the internet if anyone doesn't believe Franken's work.

Then O'Reilly had the nerve to knock Ludacris for being in a Pepsi commerical because he degrades women. Meanwhile, he wrote a fiction book in which he gets into a deep explanation about how this guy loved pulling down his girlfriend's panties and started to eat her out!

He has to be one of the biggest liars in this history of journalism... I can't understand why he hasn't gone to court for not only lying so much, but being highly critical of other people and insulting them to the point where it would possibly make them feel like they are a piece of crap; and not to mention, ruining a perfectly good individual's reputation. Jeremy Glick already expressed a concern of having a harder time getting a job because of O'Reilly instigating something Glick NEVER SAID on his show. Hello? ILLEGAL.

To think that O'Reilly -- always defending what Bush says and feels so bad about 9/11 -- would actually not only insult Jeremy Glick, but later LIE about what happened between himself and Glick... is unimaginable. It not only shows that the man is entirely full of shit, but he's just plain evil. You don't lie about someone who lost their father in the 9/11 attacks just because he is against the war in Iraq. You don't make him look like some paranoid freak that thinks the Bushes plotted 9/11. You just don't do that.
 

sc0la

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xsarien said:
I'm still convinced that she's built satire into an art form, but does it in such a way that right-wingers don't realize it. She jerks them off, they give her money, and she laughs all the way to the bank. Everyone wins.

(And to be fair, imagining a plane filled with naked people is pretty funny.)
Except the flying naked on the plane thing is not her writing ;)
 
xsarien said:
I'm still convinced that she's built satire into an art form, but does it in such a way that right-wingers don't realize it. She jerks them off, they give her money, and she laughs all the way to the bank. Everyone wins.

(And to be fair, imagining a plane filled with naked people is pretty funny.)
Hmm... maybe Ann Coulter is the true return of Andy Kaufman.
 
White Man said:
If all conservatives wore leather tops, all the time, I'd be voting republican for life. It'd be taking one large step towards fulfilling my post-apocalyptic Mad Max fantasies. Coulter could run Thunderdome.

Here endeth the fantasy: Dick Cheney in assless chaps.
 

FoneBone

Member
But she's an "excellent researcher!" Yes, I'm paraphrasing, but one of this forum's resident idiots actually said that a few months back.
 
FoneBone said:
But she's an "excellent researcher!" Yes, I'm paraphrasing, but one of this forum's resident idiots actually said that a few months back.
That's fantastic researcher.

http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=192069&postcount=67
Kobun Heat said:
The great thing about that website is all the times when the author says things like "Now, on the basic facts here, Coulter is correct, but..." and then tries to show how she's misinterpreting them or what. Most of what I just read was all opinion on the part of the 'debunker.' I didn't see a single factual error. Just disagreements on what the things she found in her research mean, which is irrelevant to whether or not they are facts.
 

KingV

Member
Diablos said:
shuri: She's all yours buddy. U-G-L-Y


Moore doesn't have everything right, either. But the people he interviews in F. 9/11 aren't taking Moore's side, they are simply telling the truth.

Ann Coulter goes at it alone and lies the whole way through. That's the difference between Michael Moore and Ann Coulter.

Not a Coulter fan, but there's a number of people that talked to Michael Moore for both F 9/11 and Bowling that are pissed at him for manipulating the interviews and editing them out of context. Nevermind the fake newspaper article in F-911, the Heston speech in Bowling that is manufactured from three different parts of two different speeches, the horribly innaccurate gun history cartoon in bowling, etc. He rarely outright lies, but his evidence is so misleading, I can't even begin to take Moore seriously. Him and coulter both are weaving their tales out of whole cloth, and there's quite a few people that eat it up.
 

capslock

Is jealous of Matlock's emoticon
The only thing Coulter has going for her is her hair, other than that she is quite hideous.

If I had to fuck a right-winger it'd be Michelle Malkin.
 

Cool

Member
capslock said:
The only thing Coulter has going for her is her hair, other than that she is quite hideous.

If I had to fuck a right-winger it'd be Michelle Malkin.


I like how everyone on here acts like that it's a possibility that there will actullay come a time where they'll have the chance to fuck random celebrities.
 
KingV said:
Not a Coulter fan, but there's a number of people that talked to Michael Moore for both F 9/11 and Bowling that are pissed at him for manipulating the interviews and editing them out of context. Nevermind the fake newspaper article in F-911, the Heston speech in Bowling that is manufactured from three different parts of two different speeches, the horribly innaccurate gun history cartoon in bowling, etc. He rarely outright lies, but his evidence is so misleading, I can't even begin to take Moore seriously. Him and coulter both are weaving their tales out of whole cloth, and there's quite a few people that eat it up.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0111.coulterwisdom.html

Maybe xsarian is right and she really is making satire.

"The swing voters---I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. "---Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00
"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
I don't find her hot at all. She has a horse face and has a total "stuck-up bitch" look to her.
 

KingV

Member
I'm probably going to take flack for this, but I think it's strange how much Coulter's writing parallels the extreme left's version of Bush an Co. Not so much in content and goals, but certainly in language and pure venom. I guess it really is true that if you go way out left or way out right you kind of meet again on the far sides.
 

Diablos

Member
I'm not really happy with what Moore has done either. He presented some good facts in movies such as Farenheit 9/11 and Bowling for Columbine, but no one other than some liberals and Moore fanatics are going to take the time to hear him out, because they'll write it all off as being BS. Which is bad. Facts are now associated with a not always 100% truthful filmmaker.
 

theo

Contest Winner
I was flipping through the news channels tonight and saw this bitch was on McEnroe. She was spouting off about how if Kerry is elected she is moving out of NYC and basically guaranteed another attack would occur if Bush loses. McEnroe got upset and wrapped up the segment real quick.

What a dumb ho.
 
theo said:
I was flipping through the news channels tonight and saw this bitch was on McEnroe. She was spouting off about how if Kerry is elected she is moving out of NYC and basically guaranteed another attack would occur if Bush loses. McEnroe got upset and wrapped up the segment real quick.

What a dumb ho.


Did he tell her "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!"? I bet if he said "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS" more often on his show, the ratings wouldn't be so bad.
 

MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
theo said:
I was flipping through the news channels tonight and saw this bitch was on McEnroe. She was spouting off about how if Kerry is elected she is moving out of NYC and basically guaranteed another attack would occur if Bush loses. McEnroe got upset and wrapped up the segment real quick.

What a dumb ho.
If I were McEnroe, I would have simply said, straight out, "You know you're a bitch, don't you?"

Never has the word more suitably applied.

And for the record, Moore is a kook, too, but Coulter really takes the cake for crazed ideology.
 
MetatronM said:
If I were McEnroe, I would have simply said, straight out, "You know you're a bitch, don't you?"

That would have been McEnroe's shows saving grace, and, really, only he could have said this. It would have been just too perfect if he did it.
 
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